Why does Trump feel like he has to lie about the tax plan?

[Teflon Don]

Looks like I'm gonna be about 20 percent less in taxes based on what they did for pass-through corporations.

Another hypocritical liberal. You don’t have to take it

But if you do, what will you do with that windfall being that you are already rich?

Will you put it under your mattress like all rich people do?

Will you donate it back to the gubmint?

 

[Teflon Don]

I already overpaid them, and get them full healthcare that provides birth control. I'm just going to give myself a big fat 20 percent raise, which I'm going to put in the bank.

I have the best employees of any law firm in Florida.

Greedy fuck

Why not pay the same as you make? You support come inequality

I love when libtards expose their hypocrisy.

 

[Cypress]

He's not lying, the middle class gets a disproportionately higher share of the tax cut as a percentage they get less in real numbers because they pay less in real numbers and since Trump has his permanent residency in NYC and because he is in the top 4-5% tax bracket due to the elimination of the state/city tax deduction he does in fact stand to lose.

You have a habit of running around the board and calling black posters "niggers", so anything you write has to, by default, assumed to be ignorant racist horseshit.

You can word-smith this giveaway to our corporate overlords all you want, but if you are trying to imply that Trump's tax bill is going to soak the rich, then you are possibly one of the more dishonest posters to ever appear on jpp.com. Your word games will not change that the Republican party, with Trump as it's head, is doing what it always has done, and always will do....direct the focus of their efforts to benefit people who do not need any help: the rich, the affluent, the bankers, and the corporate elite.

 

[PraiseKek]

You have a habit of running around the board and calling black posters "niggers",

Only race hustling normie faggots like you.

so anything you write has to, by default, assumed to be ignorant racist horseshit.

You can word-smith this giveaway to our corporate overlords all you want, but if you are trying to imply that Trump's tax bill is going to soak the rich, then you are possibly one of the more dishonest posters to ever appear on jpp.com. Your word games will not change that the Republican party, with Trump as it's head, is doing what it always has done, and always will do....direct the focus of their efforts to benefit people who do not need any help: the rich, the affluent, the bankers, and the corporate elite.

No it's not going to soak the rich but they will be paying higher taxes if they live in blue city/states with high city/state taxes because of the elimination of the city/state tax deduction, those like Trump stand to pay even more thanks to the $10k cap on the real estate deduction. Furthermore; this is mostly off set for single filers making $500k and less or couples making $1m or less thanks to the alternative minimum tax adjustments for inflation, so to reiterate those in the top 4-5% tax bracket AND living in blue cities/states will be paying higher taxes. Furthermore; as has already been said lower and middle classes are getting a disproportionately higher share of the tax cut as a percentage, that is a fact regardless of the left's disinformation campaign. Now go choke yourself to death on a nigger dick you normie faggot reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Cypress]

Blah, Blah, BlahBlah, Blah, BlahBlah, Blah, Blah

You can beg me to pay attention to you all you want, but this is probably one of the last repsonses you will get from me.

My position is that anyone who runs around internet forums calling black posters "niggers" - that would be you - is by nature, ignorant, bigoted, dishonest, and basically a degenerate subhuman piece of shit.

Carry on, Kaptain Klansman.

 

[PraiseKek]

You can beg me to pay attention to you all you want, but this is probably one of the last repsonses you will get from me.

My position is that anyone who runs around internet forums calling black posters "niggers" - that would be you - is by nature, ignorant, bigoted, dishonest, and basically a degenerate subhuman piece of shit.

Carry on, Kaptain Klansman.

Not black posters, race hustling normie fucks like you, now get in the fucking gas chamber you little cuck virtue signaling faggot.

 

[PostmodernProphet]

Riddle me that one.

That's the striking thing to me. Everyone who supports this plan keeps saying that the narrative about the plan being mainly for the wealthy is a media concoction & fake news.

So why can't Trump be straight about it? His repeated (many times) contention that the plan actually HURTS him and people who are wealthy & will cost them is easily disproven.

Why does he feel like he has to lie about it? If we're not being scammed, why can't he just be straight-up about it?

first tell us why YOU are lying about the tax plan?......

 

[PostmodernProphet]

trump has done nothing but lie from the git go, the deplorables want it.

if Trump's presidency is causing you so much pain, perhaps you should consider suicide......

 

[PostmodernProphet]

Why not pay the same as you make?

they would quit if he slashed their pay that much....

 

[Damocles]

Riddle me that one.

That's the striking thing to me. Everyone who supports this plan keeps saying that the narrative about the plan being mainly for the wealthy is a media concoction & fake news.

So why can't Trump be straight about it? His repeated (many times) contention that the plan actually HURTS him and people who are wealthy & will cost them is easily disproven.

Why does he feel like he has to lie about it? If we're not being scammed, why can't he just be straight-up about it?

This post makes no sense. "Easily disproven"... This bill hurts only 5%, and those are rich people who live in high tax states like NY. Trump will pay more in personal Federal Taxes due to the bill, you will pay less.

Such a "riddle" must be truly "confusing" to you.

 

[Airstrip One]

Fuck off liberal

So, you support free trade and tax loopholes? Fuck off, neocon.

 

[Cancel 2020.1]

This post makes no sense. "Easily disproven"... This bill hurts only 5%, and those are rich people who live in high tax states like NY. Trump will pay more in personal Federal Taxes due to the bill, you will pay less.

Such a "riddle" must be truly "confusing" to you.

How convenient. You left out the breaks for passthrough businesses and the estate tax.

 

[Damocles]

How convenient. You left out the breaks for passthrough businesses and the estate tax.

Right that 20 Million dollar limit pretty much doesn't affect him for estate taxes, and you can't have it both ways, either corporations are not people and he isn't getting a personal tax break or they are and he is. The left doesn't get to say that groups of people like corporations are "not people" and therefore have no first amendment rights and then say that people actually will benefit from a corporate tax cut because they are part of the group of people that make up the corporation...

Either way, getting corporate taxation in line with the rest of the world is truly the only way we'll ever have enough growth in our economy to have even a chance at paying some of the enormous debt that Liberal Jesus placed on our backs in the name of "stimulus".

Anyway, the reality is: Trump will pay more in personal taxes, you will pay less. Rich people will pay more, middle class less. It is exactly the way the left says they want things, but now they don't because Trump.

 

[domer76]

A pass through corporation is a small business you ignorant twit. The Trump Organization is a conglomerate with primary investments in real estate and the real estate deduction has been capped at $10k, Trump is going to lose $.

Read it, moron.

"In 2005, Trump declared $67 million in income that appears to have come from pass-through companies, according to four tax experts who reviewed the filing on behalf of Forbes. In addition, he earned another $42 million categorized as business income, which may or may not have come from pass-through entities, experts said.

Boil it down and it works like this: Trump should save about 10% of all business income that he can push into pass-through entities"

https://www.forbes.com/sites/danale...illion-a-year-from-new-tax-bill/#2b6697762337

Comes to around $11 million, you fucking idiot.

 

[Cancel 2020.1]

Right that 20 Million dollar limit pretty much doesn't affect him for estate taxes, and you can't have it both ways, either corporations are not people and he isn't getting a personal tax break or they are and he is. The left doesn't get to say that groups of people like corporations are "not people" and therefore have no first amendment rights and then say that people actually will benefit from a corporate tax cut because they are part of the group of people that make up the corporation...

Either way, getting corporate taxation in line with the rest of the world is truly the only way we'll ever have enough growth in our economy to have even a chance at paying some of the enormous debt that Liberal Jesus placed on our backs in the name of "stimulus".

Anyway, the reality is: Trump will pay more in personal taxes, you will pay less. Rich people will pay more, middle class less. It is exactly the way the left says they want things, but now they don't because Trump.

No - the reality is that it doesn't hurt Trump & his wealthy friends like he keeps claiming. We don't know how much because he doesn't release tax returns, but he stands to make 10's of millions more, if not 100's of millions.

The OP stands. You've done nothing to debunk it.

And what's the deal w/ rushing something this major through as much as they did, just so they could have an "accomplishment" for the year?

Spare me Obamacare on that last one. I had the same criticism.

 

[CFM]

No - the reality is that it doesn't hurt Trump & his wealthy friends like he keeps claiming. We don't know how much because he doesn't release tax returns, but he stands to make 10's of millions more, if not 100's of millions.

The OP stands. You've done nothing to debunk it.

And what's the deal w/ rushing something this major through as much as they did, just so they could have an "accomplishment" for the year?

Spare me Obamacare on that last one. I had the same criticism.

You've provided nothing to support the OP. When you don't provide support for your claim, it debunks itself.

 

[countryboy]

He MAY lose w/ that, but the net gain overall for him - and everyone in his bracket - is a huge windfall.

Please.

I don't think you have a firm grasp of what a "windfall" is. Perhaps a remedial course in 6th grade English would be in order.

 

[Cypress]

I mean, this is what Republicans do. Every time they control the white house and congress.

Why is anyone even denying this is what Republicans do?....it is one of the core values of their party. To work, first and foremost, for the benefit of the affluent, the wealthy, and corporate business interests.

In short, to work primarily for the benefit of the people who need the least help in our modern economy.

Trump stands to save millions under new tax measure, experts say

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...55031558ff4_story.html?utm_term=.2633167cb6d4

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The new tax plan will make Trump’s family richer, experts say. Here’s how

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...amily-richer-experts-say-heres-how/970834001/

 

[countryboy]

if Trump's presidency is causing you so much pain, perhaps you should consider suicide......

Or moving to North Korea.

 

[countryboy]

No - the reality is that it doesn't hurt Trump & his wealthy friends like he keeps claiming. We don't know how much because he doesn't release tax returns, but he stands to make 10's of millions more, if not 100's of millions.

The OP stands. You've done nothing to debunk it.

And what's the deal w/ rushing something this major through as much as they did, just so they could have an "accomplishment" for the year?

Spare me Obamacare on that last one. I had the same criticism.

Keeping your own money is not "making more", it's, KEEPING MORE.