"Why I fled libertarianism — and became a liberal "

Truth Detector said:
The definition of irony and stupid; a vulgar thread troll who tirelessly spams threads with her off topic stupidity telling others to stay on topic.

Yes dunce, you really are THAT stupid; and you wonder why people thread ban your moronic nonsense.
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She made the best point in this entire thread at this point, I think you might need to look at the man in the mirror. You seem to be "reflecting".
 
Hasa Diga Eebowai said:
It's a stupid article. I read it over a week ago. You don't choose your politics based on ad hominem looks at members. Grind is an ignorant prick and makes a bad argument for the second amendment or assisted suicide. That does not mean you abandon those positions.
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It's not stupid at all. Why do Libertarians have to be dumb and crazy?

I think EVERYONE IN EVERY PARTY should be Libertarian. Everyone should believe in Liberty (as long as it's not dumb and crazy Liberties that are more dangerous than necessary having) Libertarian isn't a "party". Every party should focus on Liberty. When you focus on Liberty above common sense you get Anarchy.
 
Dantès said:
Only if you believe that paying taxation is slavery! It isn't but only an ignorant buffoon would even have the temerity to equate the two!
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Just where in the Constitution does it say we have to pay taxes......oh wait..........I spent 5 minutes and read it right there........oh and it gives the Government Control of industry if necessary?.....and it can be changed if the people want it to change? WEIRD.

You know he never read it. He is just like all the cults in religion that are convinced the words of the book are different than what they seem." The majority is wrong, and they will all pay. You are a beacon. You are the light." (when never wondering why the majority is wrong)
 
SmarterthanYou said:
the ability of liberals to believe that slavery is freedom, among other contradictory concepts, is awesomely hilarious.
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You are clearly unaware of what you call "Liberals" today. "Liberals" want freedom of all kinds. The only reason I can think of that people call Democrats "Liberals" today is because they tend to spend more, yet when I counter it with unnecessary war and states that don't pay debt they actually spend less.

"Liberal" is the term meant for "Liberal amounts of Government to force a view". Yet todays Liberals, considered the Left, want more freedom than Government force. They do however want fair pay for a fair days work, but that was covered in the Constitution.
 
I was Libertarian. That was my first party. It just made sense. The article was great and I still believe in all the Conspiracy theories the Libertarians hold true. Some call them Conspiracy theories, and others (probably only me) call them probable facts. Our government does A LOT we aren't supposed to know about. Some media exposes it as a questionable situation and others full on claim it's a "cover up."

These are nearly always CIA cases caught by the media and the small brains wonder why they are "covered up". Such as Benghazi. To the rest of the world Benghazi was a gun running station supplying guns to Libya rebels first, then Syrian rebels later. It's called indirect warfare. Give someone of influence a lot of money to influence a large amount of money to convince a large population that they are under control, then feed them weapons. When the President of that Country starts "killing his people" America sweeps in to save the day. This isn't rocket science.

Yet I see the growing trend of Americans thinking they are under control and wonder who is using our own tactics against us. I didn't think Americans would be stupid enough to fall for what we used but it's happening.
 
Anti-Party said:
You are clearly unaware of what you call "Liberals" today. "Liberals" want freedom of all kinds. The only reason I can think of that people call Democrats "Liberals" today is because they tend to spend more, yet when I counter it with unnecessary war and states that don't pay debt they actually spend less.

"Liberal" is the term meant for "Liberal amounts of Government to force a view". Yet todays Liberals, considered the Left, want more freedom than Government force. They do however want fair pay for a fair days work, but that was covered in the Constitution.
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Where, Goober? because the US Constitution never says that.
 
Anti-Party said:
You are clearly unaware of what you call "Liberals" today. "Liberals" want freedom of all kinds. The only reason I can think of that people call Democrats "Liberals" today is because they tend to spend more, yet when I counter it with unnecessary war and states that don't pay debt they actually spend less.

"Liberal" is the term meant for "Liberal amounts of Government to force a view". Yet todays Liberals, considered the Left, want more freedom than Government force. They do however want fair pay for a fair days work, but that was covered in the Constitution.
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ridiculously false when it concerns the 2nd Amendment and it's purpose
 
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