Why isn't the left and the never trumpers angry at Comey?

zymurgy said:
not anymore. If anyone is a known racist, we have to go repeat over and over how we denounce them

funny how the left doesn't have to denounce communism and socialism.
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Many Democrats do not want Mamdani to win, and have not endorsed him.

I've seen some on the right mention Mamdani when "rhetoric" is brought up. As though a single candidate for mayor in one American city - who no one heard of until this past year - justifies YEARS of characterizing Dems as socialists, Marxists, communists, et al. And that doesn't even cover "vermin," "the enemy within," "scum," "evil," "DemonRats," et al.

I've been reading a lot of comments sections on youtube videos. The ones I watch from conservatives have countless comments like the one I'm about to paraphrase: "All of the hateful rhetoric comes from these vile, evil Marxist DemonRats!" And if you can't see the irony in a comment like that, there isn't much I can do.

We're in a time when self-awareness is on holiday, and cognitive dissonance reigns.
 
Teflon Don said:
They should be. Think about all of the things that the left and never trumpers believed/still believe because of Comey's lies?

They actually believed that Trump "colluded" with Russia to win the 2016 election - proven false
They actually believed the Steele Dossier was true - proven false
They actually believed that there is a tape out there of Trump asking a Russian prostitute to pee on a bed or some perverse shit - proven false
They actually believed that Trump instigated the January 6th protests - proven false
They actually believed that Trump in a fit of rage tried to grab the wheel from the driver in his Presidential limo - proven false and doesn't pass logic test

There are more.

But the take home message here is that Comey has caused leftists and never trumpers to look stupid and believe falsehoods time after time. If they had any shred of dignity or self respect, they would be angry about it
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Where was this collusion proven false? The Muller report said it happened, just not in an illegal way.
Parts of the Steele Dossier are true and parts are false.
I don't know anything about a pee tape, or what it would have to do with Comey.
How was Trump's instigation of the 1/6 riots proven false, and what does that have to do with Comey?
How was the allegation that Trump tried to grab the wheel proven false, and what does it have to do with Comey?
 
BartenderElite said:
Many Democrats do not want Mamdani to win, and have not endorsed him.

I've seen some on the right mention Mamdani when "rhetoric" is brought up. As though a single candidate for mayor in one American city - who no one heard of until this past year - justifies YEARS of characterizing Dems as socialists, Marxists, communists, et al. And that doesn't even cover "vermin," "the enemy within," "scum," "evil," "DemonRats," et al.

I've been reading a lot of comments sections on youtube videos. The ones I watch from conservatives have countless comments like the one I'm about to paraphrase: "All of the hateful rhetoric comes from these vile, evil Marxist DemonRats!" And if you can't see the irony in a comment like that, there isn't much I can do.

We're in a time when self-awareness is on holiday, and cognitive dissonance reigns.
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Before Trump, how much effect have conservatives had to break through the echo chamber of the mainstream media?

I no longer fault his rhetoric as I have learned that is the secret sauce to break through the media monopoly


one party is way, way ahead of the other in flushing out the swamp. We were supposed to have Jeb Bush as Hillary had the red carpet on your side
 
zymurgy said:
Before Trump, how much effect have conservatives had to break through the echo chamber of the mainstream media?

I no longer fault his rhetoric as I have learned that is the secret sauce to break through the media monopoly


one party is way, way ahead of the other in flushing out the swamp. We were supposed to have Jeb Bush as Hillary had the red carpet on your side
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If you want to talk about the media - I get it.

If I was conservative, most of the media & late night shows would drive me bats.
 
BartenderElite said:
If you want to talk about the media - I get it.

If I was conservative, most of the media & late night shows would drive me bats.
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as a liberal, how can you be ok with the outright deception?

I get that people preferred Hillary to Trump, but I also know that this entire Russia nonsense was an election ploy by the swamp. If I had evidence that the swamp is helping me I would know I am not on the right side
 
zymurgy said:
as a liberal, how can you be ok with the outright deception?

I get that people preferred Hillary to Trump, but I also know that this entire Russia nonsense was an election ploy by the swamp
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I'm not a liberal; I'm really more centrist. And there is incredible deception practiced by both parties when it comes to politics.

I never bought into the Russia stuff. I always saw it as a distraction from what Democrats should be focusing on, just as right now, I think they are FAR too focused on Trump. Their hate is clouding their politics. They need to take a step back and work on a platform that actually appeals to moderates, independents & regular working folks.
 
BartenderElite said:
I'm not a liberal; I'm really more centrist. And there is incredible deception practiced by both parties when it comes to politics.

I never bought into the Russia stuff. I always saw it as a distraction from what Democrats should be focusing on, just as right now, I think they are FAR too focused on Trump. Their hate is clouding their politics. They need to take a step back and work on a platform that actually appeals to moderates & independents.
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so why is it wrong to think Adam Schiff deserves to go to jail? he used his role and sensitive position to lie to the people.
 
zymurgy said:
so why is it wrong to think Adam Schiff deserves to go to jail? he used his role to lie to the people.
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Then Trump should go to jail. He uses HIS role to lie to the people. Much more regularly than anyone else.

I haven't followed Schiff's actions or words like some. I haven't called out those who think he's guilty of something, because I don't know enough about it. My concern around him & people like Comey is that the DOJ should be independent, and a President should not be engaging in pressure campaigns to get people indicted.
 
BartenderElite said:
Then Trump should go to jail. He uses HIS role to lie to the people. Much more regularly than anyone else.

I haven't followed Schiff's actions or words like some. I haven't called out those who think he's guilty of something, because I don't know enough about it. My concern around him & people like Comey is that the DOJ should be independent, and a President should not be engaging in pressure campaigns to get people indicted.
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it is not possible to reason with the shit stains

what lie did Trump tell - eating pets? ending a war in one day?

you shit stains purposefully tried to paint Trump as a traitor to win an election. Evidence that was supposedly rock solid was vapor. Schiff should be in jail. this is non-negotiable if you want us to heal as a nation
 
zymurgy said:
Comey leaked a private memo to a reporter to get a special investigation

If that deep state bullshit is not a concern we simply don't agree on the purpose or role of government and should not try to stay together in a union.
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No, Comey is accused of leaking information, which two Congressional investigations and an IG report said didn’t happen

And if there is any such thing as a deep state it is Trump’s Administration. He has removed most IG agencies, ignored independent agencies sovereignty, dismissed high ranking military he thought weren’t ass kissers, banned or limited media access, and filled nearly all positions with complete loyalists as the main qualification. The makings of an actual deep state
 
zymurgy said:
it is not possible to reason with the shit stains

what lie did Trump tell - eating pets? ending a war in one day?

you shit stains purposefully tried to paint Trump as a traitor to win an election. Evidence that was supposedly rock solid was vapor. Schiff should be in jail. this is non-negotiable if you want us to heal as a nation
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Aw, shoot. I thought we were having a civil conversation.

Let's see....what lie did Trump tell. Well, there are over 10,000 documented - but one of his worst was his now constant lie that the 2020 election was rigged, and that there was "massive fraud." This is an incredibly damaging lie. We now have millions of people who have completely lost faith in our elections - which are among the most secure in the world - because he hated losing. Oh, and there is that whole J6 thing that happened because of it. He also thought 2016 was rigged, and that 2012 was a "sham."

Like I said: we're in an era where cognitive dissonance reigns.
 
archives said:
No, Comey is accused of leaking information, which two Congressional investigations and an IG report said didn’t happen
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derp derp

He admitted to leaking the memo. this is factual record

what is in dispute is if any of the leaked info was classified

your facts are comically ignorant. fix that first

he leaked memos to a journalist to get the political capital to start an investigation. He admitted to this. it isn't in dispute.

if you won't admit the facts that we do know - you are just a shit stain retard living in a fake reality
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Comey, who wrote memos after his meetings with Trump, had shared the documents with fellow FBI officials. Asked during the Senate hearing if he shared the memos elsewhere, Comey explained he asked a “good friend” who is a “professor at Columbia law school” to be an intermediary with the press.

“My judgment was I needed to get that out into the public square. So I asked a friend of mine to share the content of the memo with a reporter,” Comey said.
 
BartenderElite said:
Aw, shoot. I thought we were having a civil conversation.

Let's see....what lie did Trump tell. Well, there are over 10,000 documented - but one of his worst was his now constant lie that the 2020 election was rigged, and that there was "massive fraud." This is an incredibly damaging lie. We now have millions of people who have completely lost faith in our elections - which are among the most secure in the world - because he hated losing. Oh, and there is that whole J6 thing that happened because of it. He also thought 2016 was rigged, and that 2012 was a "sham."

Like I said: we're in an era where cognitive dissonance reigns.
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civil discussion with morons is not possible.

you are stupid.

the election was rigged dipshit

we used covid to change the rules. some states in court had to admit they did not follow the law. the deep state covered for the Biden Crime family
 
Teflon Don said:
They should be. Think about all of the things that the left and never trumpers believed/still believe because of Comey's lies?

They actually believed that Trump "colluded" with Russia to win the 2016 election - proven false
They actually believed the Steele Dossier was true - proven false
They actually believed that there is a tape out there of Trump asking a Russian prostitute to pee on a bed or some perverse shit - proven false
They actually believed that Trump instigated the January 6th protests - proven false
They actually believed that Trump in a fit of rage tried to grab the wheel from the driver in his Presidential limo - proven false and doesn't pass logic test

There are more.

But the take home message here is that Comey has caused leftists and never trumpers to look stupid and believe falsehoods time after time. If they had any shred of dignity or self respect, they would be angry about it
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the deep state lied. the media carried the lie. the moderators in the debate helped with the lie

but the election was fair

derp derp derp derp
 
zymurgy said:
derp derp

He admitted to leaking the memo. this is factual record

what is in dispute is if any of the leaked info was classified

your facts are comically ignorant. fix that first

he leaked memos to a journalist to get the political capital to start an investigation. He admitted to this. it isn't in dispute.

if you won't admit the facts that we do know - you are just a shit stain retard living in a fake reality
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Comey, who wrote memos after his meetings with Trump, had shared the documents with fellow FBI officials. Asked during the Senate hearing if he shared the memos elsewhere, Comey explained he asked a “good friend” who is a “professor at Columbia law school” to be an intermediary with the press.

“My judgment was I needed to get that out into the public square. So I asked a friend of mine to share the content of the memo with a reporter,” Comey said.
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If you are basing your
zymurgy said:
derp derp

He admitted to leaking the memo. this is factual record

what is in dispute is if any of the leaked info was classified

your facts are comically ignorant. fix that first

he leaked memos to a journalist to get the political capital to start an investigation. He admitted to this. it isn't in dispute.

if you won't admit the facts that we do know - you are just a shit stain retard living in a fake reality
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Comey, who wrote memos after his meetings with Trump, had shared the documents with fellow FBI officials. Asked during the Senate hearing if he shared the memos elsewhere, Comey explained he asked a “good friend” who is a “professor at Columbia law school” to be an intermediary with the press.

“My judgment was I needed to get that out into the public square. So I asked a friend of mine to share the content of the memo with a reporter,” Comey said.
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He was not indited for leaking information, but supposedly lying to Congress, and this based on incorrectly pasting two comments to Grassley and Cruz

And you a use another of “facts being completely ignorant”
 
archives said:
If you are basing your

He was not indited for leaking information, but supposedly lying to Congress, and this based on incorrectly pasting two comments to Grassley and Cruz

And you a use another of “facts being completely ignorant”
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you just moved the goal post. you said he did not leak information

now you admit he leaked to the press to gain political capital
 
zymurgy said:
you just moved the goal post. you said he did not leak information

now you admit he leaked to the press to gain political capital
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I didn’t you did, included the article implying such,

No, as he testified, he discussed events with a friend who told another friend who spoke to someone they knew in the media which Grassley attempted to frame unsuccessfully as leaking and Cruz tried to catch Comey later which Comey saw thru

This has all been covered earlier by Rubio’s Committee, the IG report, and even Barr decided there was nothing there to prosecute

The statute of limitations was set to expire, Trump knew it, and demanded an inditement, his first stooge refused to do it based on how weak it all was so Trump replaced him with another gofer

Could come back to bite Trump in the ass if the case is thrown out before it even starts
 
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