Why the U.S. Ranks Low on WHO's Health-Care Study

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August 22, 2007
Why the U.S. Ranks Low on WHO's Health-Care Study
By John Stossel
The New York Times recently declared "the disturbing truth ... that ... the United States is a laggard not a leader in providing good medical care."

As usual, the Times editors get it wrong.

They find evidence in a 2000 World Health Organization (WHO) rating of 191 nations and a Commonwealth Fund study of wealthy nations published last May.

In the WHO rankings, the United States finished 37th, behind nations like Morocco, Cyprus and Costa Rica. Finishing first and second were France and Italy. Michael Moore makes much of this in his movie "Sicko."

The Commonwealth Fund looked at Australia, Canada, Germany, New Zealand, the United Kingdom and the United States -- and ranked the U.S. last or next to last on all but one criterion.

So the verdict is in. The vaunted U.S. medical system is one of the worst.

But there's less to these studies than meets the eye. They measure something other than quality of medical care. So saying that the U.S. finished behind those other countries is misleading.

First let's acknowledge that the U.S. medical system has serious problems. But the problems stem from departures from free-market principles. The system is riddled with tax manipulation, costly insurance mandates and bureaucratic interference. Most important, six out of seven health-care dollars are spent by third parties, which means that most consumers exercise no cost-consciousness. As Milton Friedman always pointed out, no one spends other people's money as carefully as he spends his own.

Even with all that, it strains credulity to hear that the U.S. ranks far from the top. Sick people come to the United States for treatment. When was the last time you heard of someone leaving this country to get medical care? The last famous case I can remember is Rock Hudson, who went to France in the 1980s to seek treatment for AIDS.

So what's wrong with the WHO and Commonwealth Fund studies? Let me count the ways.

The WHO judged a country's quality of health on life expectancy. But that's a lousy measure of a health-care system. Many things that cause premature death have nothing do with medical care. We have far more fatal transportation accidents than other countries. That's not a health-care problem.

Similarly, our homicide rate is 10 times higher than in the U.K., eight times higher than in France, and five times greater than in Canada.

When you adjust for these "fatal injury" rates, U.S. life expectancy is actually higher than in nearly every other industrialized nation.

Diet and lack of exercise also bring down average life expectancy.

Another reason the U.S. didn't score high in the WHO rankings is that we are less socialistic than other nations. What has that got to do with the quality of health care? For the authors of the study, it's crucial. The WHO judged countries not on the absolute quality of health care, but on how "fairly" health care of any quality is "distributed." The problem here is obvious. By that criterion, a country with high-quality care overall but "unequal distribution" would rank below a country with lower quality care but equal distribution.

It's when this so-called "fairness," a highly subjective standard, is factored in that the U.S. scores go south.

The U.S. ranking is influenced heavily by the number of people -- 45 million -- without medical insurance. As I reported in previous columns, our government aggravates that problem by making insurance artificially expensive with, for example, mandates for coverage that many people would not choose and forbidding us to buy policies from companies in another state.

Even with these interventions, the 45 million figure is misleading. Thirty-seven percent of that group live in households making more than $50,000 a year, says the U.S. Census Bureau. Nineteen percent are in households making more than $75,000 a year; 20 percent are not citizens, and 33 percent are eligible for existing government programs but are not enrolled.

For all its problems, the U.S. ranks at the top for quality of care and innovation, including development of life-saving drugs. It "falters" only when the criterion is proximity to socialized medicine.

Next week: the truth about the Commonwealth Fund study.

Copyright 2007 Creators Syndicate Inc.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2007/08/why_the_us_ranks_low_on_whos_h.html
 
The point is, surely, that running medicine for profit makes it extremely expensive (it costs you roughly twice as much as it costs us), and, in a very unequal society, it means that even so it is hugely inefficient. At the very top end it produces advances, but it kills poor people, which means it is not going to score well in comparison with fairer systems.
 
August 22, 2007
Why the U.S. Ranks Low on WHO's Health-Care Study
By John Stossel
The New York Times recently declared "the disturbing truth ... that ... the United States is a laggard not a leader in providing good medical care."

As usual, the Times editors get it wrong.

They find evidence in a 2000 World Health Organization (WHO) rating of 191 nations and a Commonwealth Fund study of wealthy nations published last May.

In the WHO rankings, the United States finished 37th, behind nations like Morocco, Cyprus and Costa Rica. Finishing first and second were France and Italy. Michael Moore makes much of this in his movie "Sicko."

The Commonwealth Fund looked at Australia, Canada, Germany, New Zealand, the United Kingdom and the United States -- and ranked the U.S. last or next to last on all but one criterion.

So the verdict is in. The vaunted U.S. medical system is one of the worst.

But there's less to these studies than meets the eye. They measure something other than quality of medical care. So saying that the U.S. finished behind those other countries is misleading.

First let's acknowledge that the U.S. medical system has serious problems. But the problems stem from departures from free-market principles. The system is riddled with tax manipulation, costly insurance mandates and bureaucratic interference. Most important, six out of seven health-care dollars are spent by third parties, which means that most consumers exercise no cost-consciousness. As Milton Friedman always pointed out, no one spends other people's money as carefully as he spends his own.

Even with all that, it strains credulity to hear that the U.S. ranks far from the top. Sick people come to the United States for treatment. When was the last time you heard of someone leaving this country to get medical care? The last famous case I can remember is Rock Hudson, who went to France in the 1980s to seek treatment for AIDS.

So what's wrong with the WHO and Commonwealth Fund studies? Let me count the ways.

The WHO judged a country's quality of health on life expectancy. But that's a lousy measure of a health-care system. Many things that cause premature death have nothing do with medical care. We have far more fatal transportation accidents than other countries. That's not a health-care problem.

Similarly, our homicide rate is 10 times higher than in the U.K., eight times higher than in France, and five times greater than in Canada.

When you adjust for these "fatal injury" rates, U.S. life expectancy is actually higher than in nearly every other industrialized nation.

Diet and lack of exercise also bring down average life expectancy.

Another reason the U.S. didn't score high in the WHO rankings is that we are less socialistic than other nations. What has that got to do with the quality of health care? For the authors of the study, it's crucial. The WHO judged countries not on the absolute quality of health care, but on how "fairly" health care of any quality is "distributed." The problem here is obvious. By that criterion, a country with high-quality care overall but "unequal distribution" would rank below a country with lower quality care but equal distribution.

It's when this so-called "fairness," a highly subjective standard, is factored in that the U.S. scores go south.

The U.S. ranking is influenced heavily by the number of people -- 45 million -- without medical insurance. As I reported in previous columns, our government aggravates that problem by making insurance artificially expensive with, for example, mandates for coverage that many people would not choose and forbidding us to buy policies from companies in another state.

Even with these interventions, the 45 million figure is misleading. Thirty-seven percent of that group live in households making more than $50,000 a year, says the U.S. Census Bureau. Nineteen percent are in households making more than $75,000 a year; 20 percent are not citizens, and 33 percent are eligible for existing government programs but are not enrolled.

For all its problems, the U.S. ranks at the top for quality of care and innovation, including development of life-saving drugs. It "falters" only when the criterion is proximity to socialized medicine.

Next week: the truth about the Commonwealth Fund study.

Copyright 2007 Creators Syndicate Inc.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2007/08/why_the_us_ranks_low_on_whos_h.html

Another misleading measure used to falsely malign the US healthcare system is infant mortality. Deaths that wouldn't be counted in other countries are tabulated here.
 
The point is, surely, that running medicine for profit makes it extremely expensive (it costs you roughly twice as much as it costs us), and, in a very unequal society, it means that even so it is hugely inefficient. At the very top end it produces advances, but it kills poor people, which means it is not going to score well in comparison with fairer systems.

Running medicine by bureaucracy results in no one having an incentive to do a good job.
 
Good thing we don't do that then. Ask 'em to let you out into the world, kid. You still believe Stalin, or whoever your master was.

What do you know about America's healthcare? All you know about it is what your leftist neo-commie masters tell you. You didn't even bother to read the whole OP did ya?????
 
What do you know about America's healthcare? All you know about it is what your leftist neo-commie masters tell you. You didn't even bother to read the whole OP did ya?????

No - it was far too long. I know as great deal about American 'Health care', especially how profitable opioids turned out to be!
 
August 22, 2007
Why the U.S. Ranks Low on WHO's Health-Care Study
By John Stossel
The New York Times recently declared "the disturbing truth ... that ... the United States is a laggard not a leader in providing good medical care."

As usual, the Times editors get it wrong.

They find evidence in a 2000 World Health Organization (WHO) rating of 191 nations and a Commonwealth Fund study of wealthy nations published last May.

In the WHO rankings, the United States finished 37th, behind nations like Morocco, Cyprus and Costa Rica. Finishing first and second were France and Italy. Michael Moore makes much of this in his movie "Sicko."

The Commonwealth Fund looked at Australia, Canada, Germany, New Zealand, the United Kingdom and the United States -- and ranked the U.S. last or next to last on all but one criterion.

So the verdict is in. The vaunted U.S. medical system is one of the worst.

But there's less to these studies than meets the eye. They measure something other than quality of medical care. So saying that the U.S. finished behind those other countries is misleading.

First let's acknowledge that the U.S. medical system has serious problems. But the problems stem from departures from free-market principles. The system is riddled with tax manipulation, costly insurance mandates and bureaucratic interference. Most important, six out of seven health-care dollars are spent by third parties, which means that most consumers exercise no cost-consciousness. As Milton Friedman always pointed out, no one spends other people's money as carefully as he spends his own.

Even with all that, it strains credulity to hear that the U.S. ranks far from the top. Sick people come to the United States for treatment. When was the last time you heard of someone leaving this country to get medical care? The last famous case I can remember is Rock Hudson, who went to France in the 1980s to seek treatment for AIDS.

So what's wrong with the WHO and Commonwealth Fund studies? Let me count the ways.

The WHO judged a country's quality of health on life expectancy. But that's a lousy measure of a health-care system. Many things that cause premature death have nothing do with medical care. We have far more fatal transportation accidents than other countries. That's not a health-care problem.

Similarly, our homicide rate is 10 times higher than in the U.K., eight times higher than in France, and five times greater than in Canada.

When you adjust for these "fatal injury" rates, U.S. life expectancy is actually higher than in nearly every other industrialized nation.

Diet and lack of exercise also bring down average life expectancy.

Another reason the U.S. didn't score high in the WHO rankings is that we are less socialistic than other nations. What has that got to do with the quality of health care? For the authors of the study, it's crucial. The WHO judged countries not on the absolute quality of health care, but on how "fairly" health care of any quality is "distributed." The problem here is obvious. By that criterion, a country with high-quality care overall but "unequal distribution" would rank below a country with lower quality care but equal distribution.

It's when this so-called "fairness," a highly subjective standard, is factored in that the U.S. scores go south.

The U.S. ranking is influenced heavily by the number of people -- 45 million -- without medical insurance. As I reported in previous columns, our government aggravates that problem by making insurance artificially expensive with, for example, mandates for coverage that many people would not choose and forbidding us to buy policies from companies in another state.

Even with these interventions, the 45 million figure is misleading. Thirty-seven percent of that group live in households making more than $50,000 a year, says the U.S. Census Bureau. Nineteen percent are in households making more than $75,000 a year; 20 percent are not citizens, and 33 percent are eligible for existing government programs but are not enrolled.

For all its problems, the U.S. ranks at the top for quality of care and innovation, including development of life-saving drugs. It "falters" only when the criterion is proximity to socialized medicine.

Next week: the truth about the Commonwealth Fund study.

Copyright 2007 Creators Syndicate Inc.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2007/08/why_the_us_ranks_low_on_whos_h.html

Is your ignorance willfiul? Now we are up to 1.4 million Americans who use "medical tourism". They travel abroad for healthcare. Think they are doing that because they want worse healthcare? In many cases ,it is the only care they can get.
Many Americans have no healthcare or cannot afford to access it. That is one reason why our overall ratings are so bad.
Universal healthcare is better for the people but costs money for insurance companies and powerful healthcare companies. This is America. Money and profits are the reasons we suffer with poor healthcare and for many none.
 
Cuba has a 98 percent vaccination rate.
It has developed a lung cancer vaccine
It has eliminated mother to child HIV transmission
It has a lower infant mortality rate than the US.
Yeah, socialized medicine is just so bad. This is done by a country our embargo has kept poor and does not pay their doctors millions of dollars.
 
No - it was far too long. I know as great deal about American 'Health care', especially how profitable opioids turned out to be!

If you didn't read it than you can't refute with any knowledge the lies that the WHO use to determine their leftist biased ranking system, huh?
 
"The WHO judged a country's quality of health on life expectancy. But that's a lousy measure of a health-care system."

Would most folks choose to pay more, fill out endless forms & fight to get care, to get insurance etc or live ten years longer w/ commie care??
 
Is your ignorance willfiul? Now we are up to 1.4 million Americans who use "medical tourism". They travel abroad for healthcare. Think they are doing that because they want worse healthcare?

That’s what you keep claiming, but you never present any corroborating evidence. You’re likely just parroting something you’ve heard on CNN or MSNBC, or you’re just spewing dishonest fake facts you thought up yourself, right?

In many cases ,it is the only care they can get.

Now that’s hilarious! They can’t afford care in America, so the empty their bank accounts to travel abroad to get FREE care. What a hoot!!!!!


Many Americans have no healthcare or cannot afford to access it. That is one reason why our overall ratings are so bad.

But that’s not an honest or fair way to rate “HEALTHCARE,” That’s a rating of “HEALTHCARE INSURANCE.” It’s simply the WHO’s twisted fake factual tactics to promote socialism. Actually America’s “HEALTHCARE” is among the best on earth!!! “FOR PROFIT” always delivers the most quality in anything when true capitalistic competitive freedom is the norm, and healthcare is no exception.


Universal healthcare is better for the people but costs money for insurance companies and powerful healthcare companies. This is America. Money and profits are the reasons we suffer with poor healthcare and for many none.

Socialism is never better for anybody!!! For profit capitalism delivered with true competitive freedom and the federal government respecting the Constitution and minding its own business and keeping out of where it has no constitutional authority delivers the best of everything. America’s health insurance business only SUCKS because the feds insist on meddling in it!!!!!
 
Cuba has a 98 percent vaccination rate.
It has developed a lung cancer vaccine
It has eliminated mother to child HIV transmission
It has a lower infant mortality rate than the US.
Yeah, socialized medicine is just so bad. This is done by a country our embargo has kept poor and does not pay their doctors millions of dollars.

Why didn’t RGB go there for the lung cancer vaccine?

Lung cancer vaccine

ROFLMAO

GOOD ONE
 
Cuba has a 98 percent vaccination rate.
It has developed a lung cancer vaccine
It has eliminated mother to child HIV transmission
It has a lower infant mortality rate than the US.
Yeah, socialized medicine is just so bad. This is done by a country our embargo has kept poor and does not pay their doctors millions of dollars.

Here's the other side of the Cuba story.

The Left has always had a deep psychological need to believe in the myth of Cuban health care. On that island, as everywhere else, Communism has turned out to be a disaster: economic, physical, and moral. Not only have persecution, torture, and murder been routine, there is nothing material to show for it. The Leninist rationalization was, “You have to break some eggs to make an omelet.” Orwell memorably replied, “Where’s the omelet?” There is never an omelet. …there is excellent health care on Cuba — just not for ordinary Cubans. …there is not just one system, or even two: There are three. The first is for foreigners who come to Cuba specifically for medical care. This is known as “medical tourism.” The tourists pay in hard currency… The second health-care system is for Cuban elites — the Party, the military, official artists and writers, and so on. In the Soviet Union, these people were called the “nomenklatura.” And their system, like the one for medical tourists, is top-notch. Then there is the real Cuban system, the one that ordinary people must use — and it is wretched. Testimony and documentation on the subject are vast. Hospitals and clinics are crumbling. Conditions are so unsanitary, patients may be better off at home, whatever home is. If they do have to go to the hospital, they must bring their own bedsheets, soap, towels, food, light bulbs — even toilet paper. And basic medications are scarce. …The equipment that doctors have to work with is either antiquated or nonexistent. Doctors have been known to reuse latex gloves — there is no choice. …So deplorable is the state of health care in Cuba that old-fashioned diseases are back with a vengeance. These include tuberculosis, leprosy, and typhoid fever. And dengue, another fever, is a particular menace.

Wow, I guess shortages extend well beyond toilet paper. https://fee.org/articles/the-myth-of-cubas-glorious-health-care-system/
 
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