Why They Hate Us

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toby

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No not because of Bush but because of the liberals............

>>D’Souza shows that liberals—people like Hillary Clinton, Ted Kennedy, Barney Frank, Bill Moyers, and Michael Moore—are responsible for fostering a culture that angers and repulses not just Muslim countries but also traditional and religious societies around the world. Their outspoken opposition to American foreign policy—including the way the Bush administration is conducting the war on terror—contributes to the growing hostility, encouraging people both at home and abroad to blame America for the problems of the world. He argues that it is not our exercise of freedom that enrages our enemies, but our abuse of that freedom—from the sexual liberty of women to the support of gay marriage, birth control, and no-fault divorce, to the aggressive exportation of our vulgar, licentious popular culture.
http://www.randomhouse.com/catalog/display.pperl?isbn=9780385510127
 
Well Toby I am pleased to see that you are at least more advanced in understanding than the simple they hate us because we are free.
 
Looks like a very interesting book. Thanks Toby.

Of course a true liberal will never read it.
 
I think you'll find that it is the US government's actions that repulse the world, rather than the fact that the opposition speaks against it.

It is comedy gold that you think that if it weren't for the liberal opposition to the extremists in the US government, the world would see these extremists as cute little bunnies who only want the best for us.

You must live in La-La land to believe this.
 
He argues that it is not our exercise of freedom that enrages our enemies, but our abuse of that freedom—from the sexual liberty of women to the support of gay marriage, birth control, and no-fault divorce, to the aggressive exportation of our vulgar, licentious popular culture.

Yes toby, you capitulate freedoms because the extremists don't like it.

You pussy.
 
AnyOldIron said:
He argues that it is not our exercise of freedom that enrages our enemies, but our abuse of that freedom—from the sexual liberty of women to the support of gay marriage, birth control, and no-fault divorce, to the aggressive exportation of our vulgar, licentious popular culture.

Yes toby, you capitulate freedoms because the extremists don't like it.

You pussy.
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This from the land of no written constitution and public cameras recording every instant of their lives so the government can check for pre-approved action?

Right... And we give up freedoms.
 
This from the land of no written constitution and public cameras recording every instant of their lives so the government can check for pre-approved action?

A nation that instinctly knows its rights doesn't need them to be written down.

The cameras are a problem, IMO, but they aren't everywhere.

They are mostly in city / town centres and are related to the British Illness...alcoholism combined with violence.
 
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Any my point is why do libs supports these terrorist when they should be supporting America.

Toby, you are such a fuck-wit.

Not one liberal I have ever heard discuss the subject has shown support for Muslim extremists.

Most liberals recognise the fact that extremists on both sides are the problem.
 
Most libs hark on the fact it is American policies that offend them. And that is correct. Our policy of democracy, free speech, freedom of religion. All good things that we should be promoting. Why libs can't make that connection I just don't get.
 
Most libs hark on the fact it is American policies that offend them. And that is correct. Our policy of democracy, free speech, freedom of religion. All good things that we should be promoting. Why libs can't make that connection I just don't get.

That may offend the extremists but not the Muslim people. They aren't concerned with what the US does internally.

What concerns them is problems such as Palestine, Chechnya, dictatorial regimes such the House of Saud, who deprive the people yet live in luxury (upheld by the US government).


Your inability to differentiate between the extremists and the Muslim people is shocking.

I can tell the difference between extremists like Bush and the American people.
 
LOL Bush is extreme? You are funny.

Muslims seem to proving how they agree with conversion by the sword. When some stand out and denounce it I would like to see it.

Bush endorces a two state solution to Palistine, they are the ones who don't seem to agree and want to wipe out Israel. So who is extreme?

Saudi Arabia. if they want to chage that they can. I don't mind. Does the US have relationship with SA, sure we have a relationship with many counties that we don't agree with. Should we invade and change the SA goverment? Would you support that?
 
AnyOldIron said:
This from the land of no written constitution and public cameras recording every instant of their lives so the government can check for pre-approved action?

A nation that instinctly knows its rights doesn't need them to be written down.

The cameras are a problem, IMO, but they aren't everywhere.

They are mostly in city / town centres and are related to the British Illness...alcoholism combined with violence.
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It's all good, especially when the big brother picture starts to talk back to you... It's okay, they aren't everywhere.

;)
 
The cameras are lots of places over here in the good ol free USA as well. Stop lights, interstates, streets in some towns, ie Ibor City in FL for one. and theirs is /was linked into face recognition software.....Darn liberal state...oops Jeb is running that ...hmmm
 
uscitizen said:
The cameras are lots of places over here in the good ol free USA as well. Stop lights, interstates, streets in some towns, ie Ibor City in FL for one. and theirs is /was linked into face recognition software.....Darn liberal state...oops Jeb is running that ...hmmm
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Right, but there is a large drive by the more libertarian Americans to keep them the heck out. So that not every moment of every day is videotaped for Big Brother. Unlike some places...
 
Right, but there is a large drive by the more libertarian Americans to keep them the heck out. So that not every moment of every day is videotaped for Big Brother. Unlike some places...

There are similar campaigns here. If they become too intrusive, ie they go beyond the city/town centres and traffic areas, they will be vandalised.
 
AnyOldIron said:
Right, but there is a large drive by the more libertarian Americans to keep them the heck out. So that not every moment of every day is videotaped for Big Brother. Unlike some places...

There are similar campaigns here. If they become too intrusive, ie they go beyond the city/town centres and traffic areas, they will be vandalised.
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Any do you think most city dwellers are willing to put up with more intrusion into their privacy than the more rural folks are ?
 
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