Why this will backfire on Israel

[Cancel 2016.2]

True. More dead kids on one side than the other but ok.

Thems Hamas people are bad men as well.

Everybody happy?

Kind of reminds me of what you brits used to do to those poor misunderstood Irish chaps. Heavy handed bastards.

 

[Cancel 2016.2]

I see, I must have got the wrong impression from what you wrote, I'm sure it was my mistake.

Do you think that the Palestinians should refuse to release pictures of their civilian dead? Did it ever occur that with organizations such as the red cross publically stating that they are appalled at what condition they are finding children in Gaza in, that maybe Israel bears some responsibility in this besmirching of their reputation?

No, they should release them. Right along side the photos of Hamas hiding behind the children.

 

[Damocles]

If the Palestinians are successful in making it appear they have the Moral High Ground, then world opinion turns against Israel. To this effort they place weapons where such pictures would be likely rather than away from places where such pictures would be likely.

They have been quite successful at it lately.

 

[charver]

ok, what is the solution to this war?

If you think i'm going to write you an fecking long essay on the complexities of Middle-Eastern politics, because that's what we're talking about here, you are sadly mistaken.

 

[Cancel7]

If the Palestinians are successful in making it appear they have the Moral High Ground, then world opinion turns against Israel. To this effort they place weapons where such pictures would be likely rather than away from places where such pictures would be likely.

They have been quite successful at it lately.

Gaza is two things: Very small, and very populated. No such place exists.

And you, are buying Israeli propoganda.

 

[Epicurus]

Hamas should pay Darla and Bac a stipend.

 

[cawacko]

I see, I must have got the wrong impression from what you wrote, I'm sure it was my mistake.

Do you think that the Palestinians should refuse to release pictures of their civilian dead? Did it ever occur that with organizations such as the red cross publically stating that they are appalled at what condition they are finding children in Gaza in, that maybe Israel bears some responsibility in this besmirching of their reputation?

I'm not going to make the argument that Israel is blameless. But if Hamas wanted to release pictures showing it shooting missles at Isreal from civilian locations and its fighters hiding among the civilian population I think it will show a truer story of what is happening.

 

[FUCK THE POLICE]

Aren't pictures like this and Desh's reaction the PR strategy Hamas attempts to employ? She buys into it as do many others.

An example of the cold, disturbing nature of the conservative heart.

 

[Epicurus]

An example of the cold nature of the conservative heart.

Massive lolz.

 

[Damocles]

Gaza is two things: Very small, and very populated. No such place exists.

And you, are buying Israeli propoganda.

I am not. I believe both sides are responsible for the constant violence and that we should end support for either side.

And such places exist. There are few children in the Industrial section, yet weapons are placed among neighborhoods and near schools. So forth.

You are buying a different form of propaganda, one that attempts to get you to take sides in this mess.

 

[charver]

If the Palestinians are successful in making it appear they have the Moral High Ground, then world opinion turns against Israel. To this effort they place weapons where such pictures would be likely rather than away from places where such pictures would be likely.

They have been quite successful at it lately.

There is no moral high ground here.

Israel should be taken to task for its barbaric policy of collective punishment of the Palestinian people.

Hamas is already an international pariah, in case nobody has noticed.

 

[FUCK THE POLICE]

No, they should release them. Right along side the photos of Hamas hiding behind the children.

So blast away children.

Just say it. You support murdering innocent children. Say it out loud so we can all see what you really believe, and know what a disturbing, inhuman creature the conservative really is.

 

[Cancel7]

I'm not going to make the argument that Israel is blameless. But if Hamas wanted to release pictures showing it shooting missles at Isreal from civilian locations and its fighters hiding among the civilian population I think it will show a truer story of what is happening.

No one is blameless, but I believe that the greatest part of the blame lies with Israel, and you obviously believe the opposite.

We do live in a country where a great deal of money is spent on disseminating the opinion you happen to hold.

 

[FUCK THE POLICE]

There is no moral high ground here.

Israel should be taken to task for its barbaric policy of collective punishment of the Palestinian people.

Hamas is already an international pariah, in case nobody has noticed.

Everybody's noticed but conservatives.

 

[Cancel7]

Hamas should pay Darla and Bac a stipend.

I doubt they could afford the rates Israel is paying.

 

[Damocles]

There is no moral high ground here.

Israel should be taken to task for its barbaric policy of collective punishment of the Palestinian people.

Hamas is already an international pariah, in case nobody has noticed.

I agree, there is no moral high ground, yet some are parading around and trying to tell me there is.

I just point out what you said here.

There is no moral high ground here, it is time we stopped mucking around in their business and trying to pick the "winner".

 

[charver]

I agree, there is no moral high ground, yet some are parading around and trying to tell me there is.

I just point out what you said here.

There is no moral high ground here, it is time we stopped mucking around in their business and trying to pick the "winner".

Amen to that.

The universal lesson here is that their governments care little for basic humanity. And neither do ours.

 

[blackascoal]

Hamas should pay Darla and Bac a stipend.

Of course then they'd also have to pay lots and lots of Jewish writers and thinkers, many of whom are Israeli .. and, of course they'd have to pay the vast majority of planet earth.

How much you think that would cost?

They'd come out much cheaper by ignoring the minority of those who support Israel.

Stand behind your convictions .. boycott arab products .. don't buy their oil.

Don't buy Citgo either because Chavez supports the Palestinians.

Teach them arabs a thing or two .. don't buy their oil.

 

[blackascoal]

I doubt they could afford the rates Israel is paying.

Israel doesn't have to pay .. they collect .. BILLIONS and BILLIONS of US TAXPAYER DOLLARS .. and they do it with a slight of hand called "guilt."

 

[Cancel 2018. 3]

There is no moral high ground here.

Israel should be taken to task for its barbaric policy of collective punishment of the Palestinian people.

Hamas is already an international pariah, in case nobody has noticed.

so what is your solution to getting hamas to stop the rocket attacks, suicide bombings, and using women and children as human shields? do you agree that hamas houses most of their weaponry and launches attacks from civilian centers?