Why We Need Gun Restrictions

"If you are not allowed to stop someone from stealing, of what use are laws against theft?" T #381
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There's no law against standing 12' away from the guy stealing your car, and in a calm, steady voice saying:

"Excuse me sir. You are in violation of law. Please don't change your location. I'm summoning law enforcement authorities to arrest you for this crime."
But law enforcement is as skill not suited to amateurs. The proof of that is how many times professionals get it wrong.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
this is why i'm the average idiots worst nightmare. i'm an agnostic, constitution loving, libertarian who is former USMC and is readily prepared to do what is necessary to defend the constitution from enemies foreign and domestic. it's just tragic that there are so many domestic enemies these days.
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People who don't know how to use caps and punctuation are allowed in the Marines, and that alone is something about which we seriously need to worry.
Having the disjointed logic to imply that somebody like myself, an actual war veteran albeit not proud of it, might possibly be a "domestic enemy" is an even bigger problem.

I own guns, really nice ones with polished and checkered walnut stocks, not the shit that I was given "in service to my country,"
which in reality was in service to my country's war profiteers,
and frankly I don't care if other Americans own guns.

I do care that an ex-Marine who belongs in a mental institution has firearms in his possession, however.
This is the type of thing at which we need to look.
 
RB 60 said:
Yeah, why stay on topic, right dickhead?
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The previous post went so far over your head, I’m sure this one will, as well.

Know when the best time to plant a tree? 20 years ago.
Know when the second best time is, stupid fuck? Today.

We can’t go back 20, 30, 40 years to enact laws that would keep weapons from people that should never have access to them. The next best day is today, idiot.

That fuck needed to be cut off from ANY access to weapons. With the ability to track mentally ill people these days, much easier.

But guess what, stupid fuck? Trump eliminated that Obama requirement.

Idiot
 
hvilleherb said:
More guns make us safer. If those people in the synogague were packing heat, things would have turned out much better. If they would have stood up and aimed their guns at the guy with the gun, "bang" problem solved.
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That has been proven to be such a farce, and fools continue to repeat it. The American people own more guns then the rest of the world combined, and we have more crime, more people in jail, etc. I have
never understood the low IQ mentality that cannot understand reality. Nor the fact that the first ones to be shot would be those who reached for a concealed weapon to confront some killer armed with an AR15, and a 50 round magazine, or more.

But, you have already shown that you lack the knowledge of just how a firefight occurs.
 
NiftyNiblick said:
People who don't know how to use caps and punctuation are allowed in the Marines, and that alone is something about which we seriously need to worry.
Having the disjointed logic to imply that somebody like myself, an actual war veteran albeit not proud of it, might possibly be a "domestic enemy" is an even bigger problem.

I own guns, really nice ones with polished and checkered walnut stocks, not the shit that I was given "in service to my country,"
which in reality was in service to my country's war profiteers,
and frankly I don't care if other Americans own guns.

I do care that an ex-Marine who belongs in a mental institution has firearms in his possession, however.
This is the type of thing at which we need to look.
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The only good news you bring, pussy, is that you will die soon.
 
domer76 said:
You’re the pussy motherfucker who claims you can carry your pissant popgun anywhere. But when I challenge you to go to your local courthouse, you wimp out.

Pussy motherfucker
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you're the pussy motherfucker so afraid of civilians with guns that you ignore the constitution and demand your big brother government keep them out of your 'safe' spaces.
 
sear said:
There's no law against standing 12' away from the guy stealing your car, and in a calm, steady voice saying:

"Excuse me sir. You are in violation of law. Please don't change your location. I'm summoning law enforcement authorities to arrest you for this crime."
But law enforcement is as skill not suited to amateurs. The proof of that is how many times professionals get it wrong.
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I know more damned law than most beat cops. and if law enforcement was so fucking 'skilled' at their job, they wouldn't be given qualified immunity and that pathetic empathic vote of moronic civilians who say they have a tough job while hammering other citizens who dare exercise their rights.
 
NiftyNiblick said:
People who don't know how to use caps and punctuation are allowed in the Marines, and that alone is something about which we seriously need to worry.
Having the disjointed logic to imply that somebody like myself, an actual war veteran albeit not proud of it, might possibly be a "domestic enemy" is an even bigger problem.

I own guns, really nice ones with polished and checkered walnut stocks, not the shit that I was given "in service to my country,"
which in reality was in service to my country's war profiteers,
and frankly I don't care if other Americans own guns.

I do care that an ex-Marine who belongs in a mental institution has firearms in his possession, however.
This is the type of thing at which we need to look.
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1. grammar nazi's know they lost the argument, so the resort to petty crap on message boards about punctuation and caps.
2. I don't care how 'nice' your guns are, or how polished. what I care about is are they functional and do you know what their main use is for.
3. you are not qualified to determine who does and doesn't belong in a mental institution. will you bellow about gun rights infringement when progressives get to label all war vets as unstable?

I doubt it.
 
"I know more damned law than most beat cops. and if law enforcement was so fucking 'skilled' at their job, they wouldn't be given qualified immunity and that pathetic empathic vote of moronic civilians who say they have a tough job while hammering other citizens who dare exercise their rights." SY #390
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Right.
My comment to which you respond was not intended as genuflecting reverence for law enforcers.
Instead it was intended as an acknowledgement for the complications of law enforcement.

You are right of course. Many professional police simply are not up to it. Would you have us believe amateurs would be any better?
 
sear said:
Right.
My comment to which you respond was not intended as genuflecting reverence for law enforcers.
Instead it was intended as an acknowledgement for the complications of law enforcement.

You are right of course. Many professional police simply are not up to it. Would you have us believe amateurs would be any better?
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having been involved with the open carry movement here in Texas since 2008, i've had to learn and remember more basic law than most cops will ever learn. having also been a US Marine, i've got as much, or more tactical training and firearms marksmanship than most cops. Being a civilian alone requires me to be more cautious and careful with what I do with my weapon because government cop suckers absolutely love to destroy the lives of anyone who dares step outside of the liberals comfort zone of government oppression.
 
SY #393
Right.
If society could afford to hire only PhD for beat COPs, we might improve their outcome.
But however good or bad beat COPs are, that doesn't render the layman more qualified. Law enforcement is complicated.
 
sear said:
SY #393
Right.
If society could afford to hire only PhD for beat COPs, we might improve their outcome.
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the number of college educated people i've come across wouldn't be fit to clean my toilets.

sear said:
But however good or bad beat COPs are, that doesn't render the layman more qualified.
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what qualifications do you believe that law enforcement has that civilians are incapable of achieving?

sear said:
Law enforcement is complicated.
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i'd love for you to explain how and why you think that is.
 
"what qualifications do you believe that law enforcement has that civilians are incapable of achieving?" SY #397
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"Incapable of achieving" is completely the wrong formulation. Possess is the correct formulation.
"i'd love for you to explain how and why you think that is." SY
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Years of OTJ, plus college level in depth training in CJ.

Untrained citizens don't know the basics.
They don't know the laws they'd ostensibly enforce.
They don't know the rules of evidence.
They don't know police work in general.
 
domer76 said:
The previous post went so far over your head, I’m sure this one will, as well.

Know when the best time to plant a tree? 20 years ago.
Know when the second best time is, stupid fuck? Today.

We can’t go back 20, 30, 40 years to enact laws that would keep weapons from people that should never have access to them. The next best day is today, idiot.

That fuck needed to be cut off from ANY access to weapons. With the ability to track mentally ill people these days, much easier.

But guess what, stupid fuck? Trump eliminated that Obama requirement.

Idiot
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So you want to violate peoples right to be protected under HIPAA??
 
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