Why were the Pharisees consistently depicted as the bad guys in the Christian gospels?

Hurling insults at me won't faze me.

What insults?

You are not a liberal - you are the polar opposite of a liberal. I am a liberal - you are a leftist, a totalitarian collectivest. You follow the ideals of Joseph Stalin, not those of Thomas Paine.

Will it help you feel better though?

Telling the truth always makes people feel better. You should try it once, just to see what it's like.
 
LOL

Matthew 16:18
{And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.}

At least you're consistent with your accuracy and honesty....



Then how would the Pharisee Saul have been hunting Christians? Your fable isn't even logical.

cypress is the dumbest fuckest of the dumb fucks.
 
LOL

Matthew 16:18
{And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.}

At least you're consistent with your accuracy and honesty....



Then how would the Pharisee Saul have been hunting Christians? Your fable isn't even logical.
Jesus was a devout Jew, and the early Church was a Jewish sect of Christ followers.

There was no recognizable Christian religion until decades later after the events of the gospels.

There is no indication Paul ever stopped being a Torah-observant Jew. But he told gentiles they didn't have to follow the ritual and civil laws of Torah
 
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Matthew 16:18
{And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church;
MAGA morons believe the New Testament was written in English, and the word church refers to an administrative and religious institution, like a building with a cross on it.

Church is the English attempt to translate the Greek word ecclesia, which just means an assembly or group of people. It's not a synonym for religion, and it's not an instruction to go out and found a brand new novel religion
 
Jesus was a devout Jew, and the early Church was a Jewish sect of Christ followers.

Somewhat true. Jesus of the New Testament was indeed a Hebrew, of the Tribe of Benjamin, house of David. ALL of his disciples were likewise Jews.

But obviously the doctrine he preached was not the orthodox beliefs that the Sanhedrin approved - not even close. So deviant were the teaching of Christ that the Sanhedrin arrested him and had the Romans crucify him.

Perhaps you've heard of this before?

There was no recognizable Christian religion until decades later after the events of the gospels.

False. While lacking central organization until the Romans merged it with their paganism, Christianity was widespread in the Middle East and by the 3rd century had become such a force in Rome itself that the Emperor incorporated into Roman law.

There is no indication Paul ever stopped being a Torah-observant Jew. But he told gentiles they didn't have to follow the ritual and civil laws of Torah

Do you just make this up as you go along?

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8 Now about food sacrificed to idols: We know that “We all possess knowledge.” But knowledge puffs up while love builds up. 2 Those who think they know something do not yet know as they ought to know. 3 But whoever loves God is known by God.

;So then, about eating food sacrificed to idols: We know that “An idol is nothing at all in the world” and that “There is no God but one.” ;For even if there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth (as indeed there are many “gods” and many “lords”), yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live.

But not everyone possesses this knowledge. Some people are still so accustomed to idols that when they eat sacrificial food they think of it as having been sacrificed to a god, and since their conscience is weak, it is defiled. But food does not bring us near to God; we are no worse if we do not eat, and no better if we do.

Be careful, however, that the exercise of your rights does not become a stumbling block to the weak. For if someone with a weak conscience sees you, with all your knowledge, eating in an idol’s temple, won’t that person be emboldened to eat what is sacrificed to idols? So this weak brother or sister, for whom Christ died, is destroyed by your knowledge. When you sin against them in this way and wound their weak conscience, you sin against Christ. Therefore, if what I eat causes my brother or sister to fall into sin, I will never eat meat again, so that I will not cause them to fall.} }

1 Corinthians 8

You post many words - virtually none of them are accurate.
 
Somewhat true. Jesus of the New Testament was indeed a Hebrew, of the Tribe of Benjamin, house of David. ALL of his disciples were likewise Jews.

But obviously the doctrine he preached was not the orthodox beliefs that the Sanhedrin approved - not even close. So deviant were the teaching of Christ that the Sanhedrin arrested him and had the Romans crucify him.
There were many Jewish sects with significantly different beliefs. The Essenes, the Saduccees, the Pharisees to name a few. As far as Jesus' original disciples were concerned in the years immediately after the crucifixion they were a sect of Torah-observant Christ-following Jews.

False. While lacking central organization until the Romans merged it with their paganism, Christianity was widespread in the Middle East and by the 3rd century had become such a force in Rome itself that the Emperor incorporated into Roman law.
3rs century is late in the game compared to what I was talking about. That was centuries after the original disciples were dead.

As far as Jesus' original disciples were concerned they were a sect of Torah-observant Christ following Jews.

Do you just make this up as you go along?

{
8 Now about food sacrificed to idols: We know that “We all possess knowledge.” But knowledge puffs up while love builds up. 2 Those who think they know something do not yet know as they ought to know. 3 But whoever loves God is known by God.

;So then, about eating food sacrificed to idols: We know that “An idol is nothing at all in the world” and that “There is no God but one.” ;For even if there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth (as indeed there are many “gods” and many “lords”), yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live.

But not everyone possesses this knowledge. Some people are still so accustomed to idols that when they eat sacrificial food they think of it as having been sacrificed to a god, and since their conscience is weak, it is defiled. But food does not bring us near to God; we are no worse if we do not eat, and no better if we do.

Be careful, however, that the exercise of your rights does not become a stumbling block to the weak. For if someone with a weak conscience sees you, with all your knowledge, eating in an idol’s temple, won’t that person be emboldened to eat what is sacrificed to idols? So this weak brother or sister, for whom Christ died, is destroyed by your knowledge. When you sin against them in this way and wound their weak conscience, you sin against Christ. Therefore, if what I eat causes my brother or sister to fall into sin, I will never eat meat again, so that I will not cause them to fall.} }

1 Corinthians 8

You post many words - virtually none of them are accurate.
I'm not going to read verbose cut and pastes, justify it and rationalize it succinctly in your own words.
 
There were many Jewish sects with significantly different beliefs. The Essenes, the Saduccees, the Pharisees to name a few. As far as Jesus' original disciples were concerned in the years immediately after the crucifixion they were a sect of Torah-observant Christ-following Jews.

Have you ever actually heard of the Sanhedrin?

You appear woefully ignorant of the subject and seem to just make shit up that you think sounds good,

Do you think Orthodox Jews today are a different sect than Conservative Jews? Or that Reform Jews have "very different beliefs" than reconstructionist?

Even your statements of Pharisees and Sadducees reveals complete ignorance. They complements one another. Pharisees were the scholars and philosophers, the Sadducees were the religious police enforcing the interpretations of the Pharisees.

3rs century is late in the game compared to what I was talking about. That was centuries after the original disciples were dead.

After 300 years, the Christian movement was so big that Rome itself bowed to it. The idiocy that there was no Christian movement prior to that is just stupid. A clumsy attempt to rewrite history.

As far as Jesus' original disciples were concerned they were a sect of Torah-observant Christ following Jews.

ROFL

Let's see something to back this fiction up?

Ah, but you are just making this up as you go.

Yes, they were observant Hebrews (Jews are from a single tribe, Judah, out of 12). But they followed the teachings of Christ, not the edicts of the Sadducees.

I'm not going to read verbose cut and pastes, justify it and rationalize it succinctly in your own words.

It appears you never read anything on the subject - preferring to make it up as you go.
 
Have you ever actually heard of the Sanhedrin?

You appear woefully ignorant of the subject and seem to just make shit up that you think sounds good,

Do you think Orthodox Jews today are a different sect than Conservative Jews? Or that Reform Jews have "very different beliefs" than reconstructionist?

Even your statements of Pharisees and Sadducees reveals complete ignorance. They complements one another. Pharisees were the scholars and philosophers, the Sadducees were the religious police enforcing the interpretations of the Pharisees.



After 300 years, the Christian movement was so big that Rome itself bowed to it. The idiocy that there was no Christian movement prior to that is just stupid. A clumsy attempt to rewrite history.



ROFL

Let's see something to back this fiction up?

Ah, but you are just making this up as you go.

Yes, they were observant Hebrews (Jews are from a single tribe, Judah, out of 12). But they followed the teachings of Christ, not the edicts of the Sadducees.



It appears you never read anything on the subject - preferring to make it up as you go.
Yes, I've heard of the Sanhedrin. A cursory search of my posts will show I have posted about it

The Sadducces did not believe in an afterlife, and did not accept anything as scriptural outside the five books of Torah.

The Pharisees believed there would be an afterlife, and that the writings of the Prophets and the oral Torah were canonical as much as the written Torah.

Those are radical differences between the two sects.

Trying to compare modern Judaism to Second temple period Judaism reveals how badly informed you are.


Someday MAGA morons will take my word for it, so I don't have to keep providing corroborating sources:

"Early Christianity began as an apocalyptic sect within Second Temple Judaism, with Jesus's first followers being Jewish, observing Jewish customs, and seeing Jesus as the Messiah fulfilling Hebrew prophecies. However, the movement gradually diverged."

AI summary
 
Jesus was a devout Jew, and the early Church was a Jewish sect of Christ followers.

There was no recognizable Christian religion until decades later after the events of the gospels.

There is no indication Paul ever stopped being a Torah-observant Jew. But he told gentiles they didn't have to follow the ritual and civil laws of Torah
he was not a Torah observant. he harvested on the Sabbath and said it didn't fucking matter.

he said circumcision didn't matter.


the two covenants coexisting together is an extra-biblical lie invented by john nelson Darby.

the one covenant was EXPANDED TO ALL on day one.

this means jews aren't special anyomore.

well god loves them, but not more than others.

this is the point of Christianity.

god is not racist.
 
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