Why Women Over 40 Suddenly Want Average Men: It's Not What You Think

QP! said:
I think that matters as well but i think it is undeniable that as women gain more wealth, gain more ability to build and maintain their 'own nest' without NEEDING a man, that women get more and more less willing to settle and more and more picky.

Ask yourself why someone like Sophia Vargara above, someone who has made so much money that she could partner with any man of any wealth level (say a school teacher) and they would never suffer an ounce of income or wealth insecurity and yet she feels, that even if he was a soul mate type love, it would still be a "nightmare" where she would end up "resenting" him.

Men have done for the thousands of years. Rich men marry waitresses or menial job holders, and then let them stop working, even if they have no kids and those men do not resent those women. This elevates society over all as it uplifts one poorer person.

The path women are talking, being increasingly choosing of equal or superior wealth men only will only result in society becoming even more stratified between rich and poor.

Varga does not say this because she is evil or a gold digger (she has her own gold) and may not realize this is an evolution extinct at play in her, that drives her to unvoluntarily to feel this way. A driving need to seek males who can provide the nest and safety, as the way to judge their worthiness.
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Sofia Vergara is comfortably in the top 0.1% of Americans when it comes to networth. She's not representative in any way of the average american woman.

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Sofia Vergara Net Worth

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The median net worth of an american household in 2023 was just $192,084. Since the median cost of a house in the U.S. is over $450,000 in 2025, I think it's clear that most households don't fully own their own homes.

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Scott said:
Sofia Vergara is comfortably in the top 0.1% of Americans when it comes to networth. She's not representative in any way of the average american woman.

Source:
www.celebritynetworth.com

Sofia Vergara Net Worth

What is Sofia Vergara's net worth?
www.celebritynetworth.com www.celebritynetworth.com

dqydj.com

Who Are the Top One Percent by Income or Net Worth in 2025? - DQYDJ

You hear about them often - but who are the top one percent? See stats for top one percent for income & net worth in America in 2025.
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The median net worth of an american household in 2023 was just $192,084. Since the median cost of a house in the U.S. is over $450,000 in 2025, I think it's clear that most households don't fully own their own homes.

Source:
www.forbes.com

Median Home Price By State: How Much Do Houses Cost?

Median home prices can help home buyers understand typical home costs in their geographic area. The metric indicates that half of the homes in a specific country, state or even ZIP code sold for more than that price, and half sold for less. Combined with mortgage rates and other factors, median home
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Yes thank you, you are exactly affirming my point with Sofia Vergara.

Even as women achieve such wealth it should no longer matter to them if the man they fall in love with is wealthy because 'more wealth' has become largely meaningless, the opposite actually happens. She gets more locked in to be picky because she can afford to sit out otherwise.
 
QP! said:
I think that matters as well but i think it is undeniable that as women gain more wealth, gain more ability to build and maintain their 'own nest' without NEEDING a man, that women get more and more less willing to settle and more and more picky.

Ask yourself why someone like Sophia Vargara above, someone who has made so much money that she could partner with any man of any wealth level (say a school teacher) and they would never suffer an ounce of income or wealth insecurity and yet she feels, that even if he was a soul mate type love, it would still be a "nightmare" where she would end up "resenting" him.

Men have done for the thousands of years. Rich men marry waitresses or menial job holders, and then let them stop working, even if they have no kids and those men do not resent those women. This elevates society over all as it uplifts one poorer person.

The path women are talking, being increasingly choosing of equal or superior wealth men only will only result in society becoming even more stratified between rich and poor.

Varga does not say this because she is evil or a gold digger (she has her own gold) and may not realize this is an evolution extinct at play in her, that drives her to unvoluntarily to feel this way. A driving need to seek males who can provide the nest and safety, as the way to judge their worthiness.
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I think her primary reason for not wanting someone who earns less than her is because a lot of -men- feel uncomfortable if they earn less than their woman. Anyway, I was wondering if you saw the other post I wrote regarding men and woman, this one:
Scott

Thread '"Men Went Silent Because Of US" - Feminist BREAKS Down After Seeing How Deep The Damage Goes'

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NC6w2gkro4&t=1220s


I mentioned this video in another thread, but I hadn't actually listened to much of it when I did. I've now listened to the whole thing, quite sobering in my view. Some may note the errors in grammar and say that it probably wasn't -really- written by a feminist. Maybe it wasn't. But I've been hearing about things like this for a while and I think a lot of good points were made. I'll just transcribe the concluding remarks below:

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What if an entire generation grows up never...
 
Scott said:
I think her primary reason for not wanting someone who earns less than her is because a lot of -men- feel uncomfortable if they earn less than their woman. Anyway, I was wondering if you saw the other post I wrote regarding men and woman, this one:
Scott

Thread '"Men Went Silent Because Of US" - Feminist BREAKS Down After Seeing How Deep The Damage Goes'

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NC6w2gkro4&t=1220s


I mentioned this video in another thread, but I hadn't actually listened to much of it when I did. I've now listened to the whole thing, quite sobering in my view. Some may note the errors in grammar and say that it probably wasn't -really- written by a feminist. Maybe it wasn't. But I've been hearing about things like this for a while and I think a lot of good points were made. I'll just transcribe the concluding remarks below:

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What if an entire generation grows up never...
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While i think that a lot of men would and do feel uncomfortable if their partner makes more money than them, that is not all men and i do not think that is her 'primary' reason.

Women wanting a man who makes as much or more, is far more tied to her evolutionary drive.

it is tied to the same instinctual drive that creates this dynamic which is the primary driver imo...

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The Trophy wife marrying the Dr is not solely a predatory 'gold digger' phenomena as so many men like to angrily write it off as.

The woman can genuinely become attracted to a guy, she otherwise would not, based on his 'nesting ability', and the weighting of that aspect can be valued more by her than the 'looks' alone of another potential mate.

However that type of 'weighting' is what puts the future of that relationship at risk as highlighted in this Mad Men episode because once she obtains 'the nest' and security the more base drive for 'looks', which is tied to another deep sub conscious driver of 'superior genes for our kids', is also competing.

Going back thousands of years, both men and women had a strong evolutionary need to be promiscuous, even within relationships as the one thing evolution hates is when genes are not spread wide and moreso when one unknown infertile person keeps the couple from having kids. Cheating largely fixes that issue and ensures procreation regardless and the spreading of genes.

Cheating was a biological imperative.

(I will look at other post shortly)
 
QP! said:
While i think that a lot of men would and do feel uncomfortable if their partner makes more money than them, that is not all men and i do not think that is her 'primary' reason.

Women wanting a man who makes as much or more, is far more tied to her evolutionary drive.

it is tied to the same instinctual drive that creates this dynamic which is the primary driver imo...

mad_men_elevator.jpg


The Trophy wife marrying the Dr is not solely a predatory 'gold digger' phenomena as so many men like to angrily write it off as.

The woman can genuinely become attracted to a guy, she otherwise would not, based on his 'nesting ability', and the weighting of that aspect can be valued more by her than the 'looks' alone of another potential mate.

However that type of 'weighting' is what puts the future of that relationship at risk as highlighted in this Mad Men episode because once she obtains 'the nest' and security the more base drive for 'looks', which is tied to another deep sub conscious driver of 'superior genes for our kids', is also competing.

Going back thousands of years, both men and women had a strong evolutionary need to be promiscuous, even within relationships as the one thing evolution hates is when genes are not spread wide and moreso when one unknown infertile person keeps the couple from having kids. Cheating largely fixes that issue and ensures procreation regardless and the spreading of genes.

Cheating was a biological imperative.

(I will look at other post shortly)
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A lot of issues here for sure. I think it would probably be good for me to mention that back when I was around 20, I came to believe that my own personality is best suited to being open to polyamory. In case you haven't heard of the term:
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Polyamory - Wikipedia

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Note that I say -open- to polyamory, as I've never really lived this type of thing in person.

Speaking of biology and evolutionary psychology, you may find a book I read on the subject of polyamory to be interesting, this one:
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Sex at Dawn - Wikipedia

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All of this feminist bullshit and propaganda is massively spread out there to do one thing only. Force all men to their way of thinking, dismiss millennia old gender roles, and accept the 'evolution' of women in to more masculine roles and promiscuity

It smacks of most women not being able to understand the masculine male psyche, nor do they really much care, while maintaining the feminine aspect of hypergamy.

It has extremely serious ramifications for society and women simply don't care. their selfishness is more important to them.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
All of this feminist bullshit and propaganda is massively spread out there to do one thing only. Force all men to their way of thinking, dismiss millennia old gender roles, and accept the 'evolution' of women in to more masculine roles and promiscuity

It smacks of most women not being able to understand the masculine male psyche, nor do they really much care, while maintaining the feminine aspect of hypergamy.

It has extremely serious ramifications for society and women simply don't care. their selfishness is more important to them.
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No.

Men are being "forced" to understand women's way of thinking is changing and their needs are changing and men RIGHTLY have no say in that.

Not one person on this planet has to give a shit about "millennia old gender roles" outside the people who chose to. If you chose to great. But not one other man or woman has to.

And if women chose roles you see as 'masculine' or chose to be 'promiscuous', which is something that was not just celebrated but glorified when males did it (stud versus whore labels), then women have every right. Men do not get a monopoly on these things.

What you say smacks of you thinking women OWE men the 'understanding of the male psyche' and they do not. If they want to try, great. Just as men do not need to 'understand the changing female psyche' but if they want to great.

Pointing at women's selfishness is a child like assessment as men have very strong roles in this too and pushing any view that could be summed up as 'women need to stay in the kitchen', which is a way to say 'they need to stick to historical gender roles', is just stupid and self defeating.
 
QP! said:
No.

Men are being "forced" to understand women's way of thinking is changing and their needs are changing and men RIGHTLY have no say in that.

Not one person on this planet has to give a shit about "millennia old gender roles" outside the people who chose to. If you chose to great. But not one other man or woman has to.

And if women chose roles you see as 'masculine' or chose to be 'promiscuous', which is something that was not just celebrated but glorified when males did it (stud versus whore labels), then women have every right. Men do not get a monopoly on these things.

What you say smacks of you thinking women OWE men the 'understanding of the male psyche' and they do not. If they want to try, great. Just as men do not need to 'understand the changing female psyche' but if they want to great.

Pointing at women's selfishness is a child like assessment as men have very strong roles in this too and pushing any view that could be summed up as 'women need to stay in the kitchen', which is a way to say 'they need to stick to historical gender roles', is just stupid and self defeating.
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womens changing ways of thinking is pure selfishness. end of story. you don't have to like it and I don't really fucking care. It just makes you every bit as wrong as they are.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
womens changing ways of thinking is pure selfishness. end of story. you don't have to like it and I don't really fucking care. It just makes you every bit as wrong as they are.
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hah... what the fuck.

Women, just like people of color and slaves have EVERY RIGHT to change their way of thinking once they gained equal rights and access to the market place for jobs and other forms of security.

You claiming they 'must stay in a post rights mindset' is about the most stupid thing i have heard on this forum, which is saying something.
 
QP! said:
hah... what the fuck.

Women, just like people of color and slaves have EVERY RIGHT to change their way of thinking once they gained equal rights and access to the market place for jobs and other forms of security.

You claiming they 'must stay in a post rights mindset' is about the most stupid thing i have heard on this forum, which is saying something.
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another typical tactic of feminism is crouching positions in terms of left and right. It shows a clear lack of critical thinking. Most women want to do away with traditional gender roles because they've been brainwashed in to believing that it makes a home maker a slave. It's peppered with terms like mental and emotional workload, or idiot baseless factoids like the undocumented labor of a home maker being worth 100k a year..............

people like you trying to maintain a left/right paradigm over it are simple purveyors of the problem, hoping for the destruction of society.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
All of this feminist bullshit and propaganda is massively spread out there to do one thing only. Force all men to their way of thinking, dismiss millennia old gender roles, and accept the 'evolution' of women in to more masculine roles and promiscuity

It smacks of most women not being able to understand the masculine male psyche, nor do they really much care, while maintaining the feminine aspect of hypergamy.

It has extremely serious ramifications for society and women simply don't care. their selfishness is more important to them.
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I think there are -some- things that are wrong with feminism- I made another thread that I think gets more into some things that are wrong with it here:
Scott

Thread '"Men Went Silent Because Of US" - Feminist BREAKS Down After Seeing How Deep The Damage Goes'

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NC6w2gkro4&t=1220s


I mentioned this video in another thread, but I hadn't actually listened to much of it when I did. I've now listened to the whole thing, quite sobering in my view. Some may note the errors in grammar and say that it probably wasn't -really- written by a feminist. Maybe it wasn't. But I've been hearing about things like this for a while and I think a lot of good points were made. I'll just transcribe the concluding remarks below:

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What if an entire generation grows up never...

I also think that feminism has a lot of good things. I think the above thread does a fairly good job of trying to separate these 2 parts of feminism.
 
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