Will stocks soar today?

LurchAddams said:
You obviously don't own stocks or depend on your investments to keep you afloat during retirement
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I am retired, but do not rely on my 401K to pay my bills. My 401K has done quite well. Especially when I bought stocks like Tesla when they hit $235 a share, along with others I don't care to share with idiots like you on the internet.

PS, if you are relying on your 401K to "keep you afloat", you didn't plan your retirement well and have bigger problems than Trumps tariffs. ;)
 
Jarod said:
Trump’s tariffs blocked by the courts, watch to see how the markets react!
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The court is superseding its authority again. Tariffs are in the President's purview not the court.

But maybe you think the courts should just handle all policy decisions and lets eliminate the Executive and Legislative Branches?

Stocks aren't really surging that much. Futures were much higher.
 
Teflon Don said:
The court is superseding its authority again. Tariffs are in the President's purview not the court.

But maybe you think the courts should just handle all policy decisions and lets eliminate the Executive and Legislative Branches?

Stocks aren't really surging that much. Futures were much higher.
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What gives the Executive tariff power?
 
Cypress said:
This is the first time in my life the courts may have prevented an economic crash.
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They aren't doing anything of the sort. But they are creating an impending Constitutional crisis that needs to end at the Supreme Court.

I can't imagine the shrill outrage you Marxist leftists would be having had Republicans engaged in such outrageous and unconstitutional behavior.

Cypress said:
Left to his own devices unimpeded, and assuming he didn't chicken out, Trump would have us in a global trade war and probably a recession.
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Nothing you have ever said or predicated became reality. Instead, all we get is shrill TDS laced bullshit and moronic claims. If you had an IQ above room temp, you would be embarrassed by your ignorance and stupidity.

Explains why you were stupid enough to vote for Kamala.
 
Jarod said:
I just want to know where the Constitution gives the Executive Tariff power, I see where it gives the Legislature that power.
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The Constitution doesn't. Why you keep bloviating this stupid strawman suggests a desperate effort to avoid the facts.

Congress delegated that authority.
 
Truth Detector said:
They aren't doing anything of the sort. But they are creating an impending Constitutional crisis that needs to end at the Supreme Court.

I can't imagine the shrill outrage you Marxist leftists would be having had Republicans engaged in such outrageous and unconstitutional behavior.



Nothing you have ever said or predicated became reality. Instead, all we get is shrill TDS laced bullshit and moronic claims. If you had an IQ above room temp, you would be embarrassed by your ignorance and stupidity.

Explains why you were stupid enough to vote for Kamala.
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Congress never delegated unlimited authority to the executive to unilaterally raise taxes on all imports from all countries.

Even Republican senators have been saying this.
 
Truth Detector said:
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And when are you going to START detecting the truth?
You sure haven't been doing a very good job of it so far.
As I said you can read it in the news almost everyday MAGAS starting to cry " I didn't vote for this " because of what trump has been doing.
Trump said he was going to help the Hurricane victims and now has walked away from them and told the States you are going to have to deal with this, Also farmers all over the country are now crying they may go bankrupt because Trump's tariffs are driving up the cost of things they need to stay in business are going up.
Two major auto companies have shut down and left the country , Long shore men are being laid off, Truckers are too, can't get loads .
You need to get out of your moms basement and go to the store and see just how much things have already started going up.
And Trump's tariffs haven't even started to kick in hold on to your ass when they do.
 
Cypress said:
Congress never delegated unlimited authority to the executive to unilaterally raise taxes on all imports from all countries.
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Congress most certainly did delegate Tariff authority to the Executive. Tariffs are not taxes. That's a weak nonsensical argument.

What we can say without argument is that Congress did not delegate that authority to District court judges.

Cypress said:
Even Republican senators have been saying this.
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Then they are just as uninformed as you are.

Over time, as Congress gave the president expanded powers on its behalf to enact tariff policies, opponents to several tariffs laws argued the statutes were an unconstitutional congressional delegation of authority to the president. Known as the non-delegation doctrine, the question of how much of its authority Congress can grant to the president and the judiciary goes back to the time of Chief Justice John Marshall.

In Wayman v. Southard (1825), Marshall noted that Congress could not delegate powers “that are strictly and exclusively legislative.” But Congress had the ability to grant other powers as needed. “The difference between the departments undoubtedly is that the legislature makes, the executive executes, and the judiciary construes the law; but the maker of the law may commit something to the discretion of the other departments, and the precise boundary of this power is a subject of delicate and difficult inquiry, into which a court will not enter unnecessarily,” Marshall concluded.

The Court defined these boundaries regarding tariffs in a landmark decision from 1892, Field v. Clark. Marshall Field & Co. objected to tariffs placed on sugar, molasses, coffee, tea, and hides under the Tariff Act of 1890, which directed the president to place such levies when other nations used tariffs the president “may deem to be reciprocally unequal and unreasonable.” Marshall Field claimed Congress had improperly granted legislative powers to the president.

In his majority opinion, Justice John Marshall Harlan said the president was acting in his executive role executing a congressional policy. “What the president was required to do was simply in execution of the act of Congress. It was not the making of law. He was the mere agent of the lawmaking department to ascertain and declare the event upon which its expressed will was to take effect.”

Congress increasingly took a less active role in levying tariffs directly, especially after the 16th Amendment’s ratification in 1913 led to a federal income tax that replaced tariffs as a main source of federal government revenue. In 1934, Congress passed the Reciprocal Trade Agreements Act, which gave President Franklin Roosevelt the ability to change tariffs rates by 50% and negotiate bilateral trade agreements without additional approval from Congress. Since then, the president has mostly controlled and executed tariffs policies as defined by Congress.

How Congress delegates its tariff powers to the president | Constitution Center

President Donald Trump is expected to announce wide-sweeping tariffs on Wednesday, in a move with potentially broad consequences. So how does the president have the ability to levy tariffs under the Constitution?
constitutioncenter.org
 
Tbird19482 said:
And when are you going to START detecting the truth?
You sure haven't been doing a very good job of it so far.
As I said you can read it in the news almost everyday MAGAS starting to cry " I didn't vote for this " because of what trump has been doing.
Trump said he was going to help the Hurricane victims and now has walked away from them and told the States you are going to have to deal with this, Also farmers all over the country are now crying they may go bankrupt because Trump's tariffs are driving up the cost of things they need to stay in business are going up.
Two major auto companies have shut down and left the country , Long shore men are being laid off, Truckers are too, can't get loads .
You need to get out of your moms basement and go to the store and see just how much things have already started going up.
And Trump's tariffs haven't even started to kick in hold on to your ass when they do.
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Run along you whiny halfwit. Your arguments are nothing more than emotional bullshit. :palm:
 
Truth Detector said:
Congress most certainly did delegate Tariff authority to the Executive. Tariffs are not taxes. That's a weak nonsensical argument.

What we can say without argument is that Congress did not delegate that authority to District court judges.



Then they are just as uninformed as you are.

Over time, as Congress gave the president expanded powers on its behalf to enact tariff policies, opponents to several tariffs laws argued the statutes were an unconstitutional congressional delegation of authority to the president. Known as the non-delegation doctrine, the question of how much of its authority Congress can grant to the president and the judiciary goes back to the time of Chief Justice John Marshall.

In Wayman v. Southard (1825), Marshall noted that Congress could not delegate powers “that are strictly and exclusively legislative.” But Congress had the ability to grant other powers as needed. “The difference between the departments undoubtedly is that the legislature makes, the executive executes, and the judiciary construes the law; but the maker of the law may commit something to the discretion of the other departments, and the precise boundary of this power is a subject of delicate and difficult inquiry, into which a court will not enter unnecessarily,” Marshall concluded.

The Court defined these boundaries regarding tariffs in a landmark decision from 1892, Field v. Clark. Marshall Field & Co. objected to tariffs placed on sugar, molasses, coffee, tea, and hides under the Tariff Act of 1890, which directed the president to place such levies when other nations used tariffs the president “may deem to be reciprocally unequal and unreasonable.” Marshall Field claimed Congress had improperly granted legislative powers to the president.

In his majority opinion, Justice John Marshall Harlan said the president was acting in his executive role executing a congressional policy. “What the president was required to do was simply in execution of the act of Congress. It was not the making of law. He was the mere agent of the lawmaking department to ascertain and declare the event upon which its expressed will was to take effect.”

Congress increasingly took a less active role in levying tariffs directly, especially after the 16th Amendment’s ratification in 1913 led to a federal income tax that replaced tariffs as a main source of federal government revenue. In 1934, Congress passed the Reciprocal Trade Agreements Act, which gave President Franklin Roosevelt the ability to change tariffs rates by 50% and negotiate bilateral trade agreements without additional approval from Congress. Since then, the president has mostly controlled and executed tariffs policies as defined by Congress.

How Congress delegates its tariff powers to the president | Constitution Center

President Donald Trump is expected to announce wide-sweeping tariffs on Wednesday, in a move with potentially broad consequences. So how does the president have the ability to levy tariffs under the Constitution?
constitutioncenter.org
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Nope your bloated Dictator does not have unlimited and unbounded power to raise taxes on all imported consumer goods and products.
 
Cypress said:
Nope your bloated Dictator does not have unlimited and unbounded power to raise taxes on all imported consumer goods and products.
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Once again, regardless of your desperate lying and flailing, Tariffs are not taxes and yes, Congress delegated tariff authority to the executive.

What we can agree on is that Congress never delegated that authority onto activist District Court judges put on the bench by Obama and Biden.
 
Truth Detector said:
Run along you whiny halfwit. Your arguments are nothing more than emotional bullshit. :palm:
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And you just stay in your moms basement and ignorant ,
Maybe if you would Turn FOX news off and start reading about what is going on in the world you would learn something but you won't because you want to stay one of Trumps stupid and very ignorant people he loves so much.
And you do it soooooo well.
 
Tbird19482 said:
And you just stay in your moms basement and ignorant ,
Maybe if you would Turn FOX news off and start reading about what is going on in the world you would learn something but you won't because you want to stay one of Trumps stupid and very ignorant people he loves so much.
And you do it soooooo well.
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Another brainless unhinged rant from a leftist dumbass. You seem to be quite full of them.

Run along witless little man. ;)
 
Truth Detector said:
Another brainless unhinged rant from a leftist dumbass. You seem to be quite full of them.

Run along witless little man. ;)
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Here ASSHOLE do some reading and learn something.
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As you can see there ARE a lot of MAGAS crying " I didn't vote for this"
When Trumps BS finally gets around to biting you in the ass don't cry too much.
 
Tbird19482 said:
And " We The People who voted for Trump " are starting to feel the effects of prices going up
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What are you talking about? For the most part, I've noticed prices either remaining steady or even decreasing.
Tbird19482 said:
and a lot of them in red states are starting to cry " I didn't vote for THIS "
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I've never once heard ANY Trump voter cry "I didn't vote for THIS".
Tbird19482 said:
You can read that in the news almost every day now.
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I'm sure that I can, but "the news" are liars. I trust my own eyes and ears MUCH more than I trust "the news".
Tbird19482 said:
And NOT all Trumps tariffs have been put in place yet when they are IMO there will be a lot more MAGAS crying .
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"the sky is falling, the sky is falling" "no really, it's actually falling this time" "just give it a bit; it'll start falling... you'll see!"

:rofl2:
 
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