Joe Capitalist
Racism is a disease
Why are you embarrassed to tell us how much money you've sent to Trump?
Don't worry. We won't laugh at you. We promise.
Will Trump be Reelected via Electoral College or via 12th Amendment ?
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Why are you embarrassed to tell us how much money you've sent to Trump?
Don't worry. We won't laugh at you. We promise.
Dutch Uncle
* Tertia Optio * Defend the Constitution
I doubt he has much money to send to Trump. My guess is that INT/IBDa/gfm is too sick to hold a job.
Joe Capitalist
Racism is a disease
Why does the troll have to use three different accounts to spread his bullshit? Does he suffer from Multiple Personality Disorder or is it just Delusional Psychosis?
Dutch Uncle
* Tertia Optio * Defend the Constitution
Why does the troll have to use three different accounts to spread his bullshit? Does he suffer from Multiple Personality Disorder or is it just Delusional Psychosis?
My experience teaches me to never, ever try to rationalize an irrational mind. It's like dividing by zero; it won't end well.
I am not trying to be rude, but you do not seem to have a clear plan for trump to win. The Electors voted on December 14th, and the votes are sitting in The Capitol Building. There is no process for rescinding the votes. I am not sure if there could be a constitutional process for rescinding the votes, but I doubt such a process could be created in less than two weeks.
I see no way for trump to reverse the votes of the Electors. Maybe if there were competing Electors meeting on December 14th, but there were none.
Can you please indicate how the votes would be rescinded, which would be necessary for either of your plans to work?
The vote is publicly available, and is 306 for Biden. If Congress counts the number of votes and it does not equal the number we all know it to be, that would come as a surprise. But I doubt it will happen.
That is my understanding. The votes have been cast by the state level Electors, and there is no way to take those votes back. It would have been nearly unimaginable, but possible for the states to pick different Electors than the people voted for, but that would have had to be before December 14th.
Right now, there are 306 votes for Biden, and there is no way to change that. Biden wins.
The vote happens on December 14th, and then counted on January 6th. So Biden has already gotten enough votes to be elected, they just need to be officially counted.
It is an easy count, just to 306. There is absolutely no dispute how the Electors voted. It seems straightforward to me.
I guess they all get on planes to Washington on January 6th so they can vote. I wonder how many of them know this?
This fucking clown is going to explain to us next how the Chiefs haven't yet won the Superbowl because it isn't over until it's over, and it isn't over because [fill in some kind of delusional bullshit here]
Many states will not even be in session on January 6.
The Constitution gives the state legislatures the power to choose electors. They can do that in whatever manner they choose.Since the early 1800s they have chosen to allow the citizens to choose the electors from their state. In most, each party on the ballot chooses a slate of electors. The slate of the candidate winning the popular vote casts their votes in the state capitol on December 14. These electoral votes are counted by Congress on January 6.
The state legislatures do not vote again. Try to find some news of state legislatures voting in 2017 or any other year.
The states don't own the Constitution. They are bound by it. You have been going to the same Constitution school as Out of the Night and Smarter than You.
Boris The Animal
It's Just Boris!
The problem with the Communists is they think THEY are the only ones qualified-nay, ANOINTED to rule the masses. I would rather have this country subjected to multiple 50 Megaton MIRV'ed warheads than to have any DemocRAT as "president" 
Guno צְבִי
We fight, We win, Am Yisrael Chai
poor Boris the bus driver
IBDaMann
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This is your problem ... it's a temporal-cognitive issue with which you are grappling. You are speaking as though it has already happened, in the past tense. They have up until January 6th, which is future tense, which hasn't happened yet.
I can't dumb it down for you any more than that.
You're a moron. Of course they do. What's the name of the country?
Well, I think that is about as dumb as it can get.
Again, show us one news report or record of a state legislature voting between December 14 and January 6 (or the relevant date in the presidential election year).
State legislatures have records of their votes. It should be easy to find. Or, show us one record for a legislature scheduled to vote by January 6.
You are hoping for some miracle based on false premises of how the electoral college operates.
ThatOwlWoman
Not Nice
Sanity is a precious commodity to have. You have plenty. Merry Christmas/happy holidays, Flash.
IBDaMann
Well-known member
Incorrect. Your denial is causing you to misuse words. Paperwork happens on 14 December and the vote happens on 6 January, at any point prior to which the State legislatures can change their minds ... and we will all witness this when it happens.
Your quiet shifting to the future tense gives you away. You recognize that the decision point is 6 January, not 14 December.
The State legislatures retain their Constitutionally-granted plenary power wrt this election all the way up to that point, 6 January. No one has the power to deny any State its plenary power prior to that point, and that includes the plenary power to change its mind. No one gets to point to any process and say "See! That process happened so your plenary power is over."
Take your eyes off of December 14th and affix them to January 6th. That's when it's all going to happen. I'm not telling you to abandon your denial but it's really stupid to talk about January 6th in the past tense as though it has already happened.
So explain why Biden's not going to have that many on January 6th.
IBDaMann
Well-known member
Of course you do. You're a moron submerged in denial. You have other people doing your thinking for you. We can all expect you to be confused, no matter how straightforward the subject matter.
I never said that you were going to somehow get beyond your temporal-cognitive disability. I simply pointed out that it is why you are so confused.
So tell me, based on what you believe about life, the universe and everything, what will be the result on January 6th?
IBDaMann
Well-known member
Thank you. You admit that you totally don't see Trump's victory on 6 January coming and that you are going to be totally "surprised." What will you say when I ask you about Biden's victory that "already happened"? Will you say that you had no idea that the vote actually doesn't happen until January 6th ... despite you having been told numerous times to no avail?
Can you see how amusing this discussion is going to be? You won't be able to say "Nobody told me that the vote happens January 6th." I'm already going to have a lot of fun with Nordberg.
Anyway, don't miss it, it's guaranteed to be fun for the whole family.
IBDaMann
Well-known member
Could I possibly persuade you to read the OP?
I am not trying to be rude but I don't see any path for Biden to win, hence the question as to whether Trump will win via the Electoral College or via the 12th Amendment.
Again, the vote happens on January 6th, that is in the future and thus hasn't happened yet. You need to get your tense straight.
That's because only the State legislatures can reverse their decisions ... and they have until January 6th to do so. It's that "plenary power" thing.
Read the OP for more info.
IBDaMann
Well-known member
Because I am embarrassed to confess that I haven't supported him financially at all and I probably should have.
I have a general rule that my support does not involve money. I will give of my time and I will provide lip service but I don't hand out cash. It's just a rule.
For whom do you pretend to speak?