Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker leads latest recall election poll

[Taichiliberal]

Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
Well, supposedly help is on the way now:


http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...stWU_blog.html

let me guess, we should ignore the millions unions have been spending in WI?

Try READING the material provided, my Super sarcastic Freak.

Are YOU implying that the unions have raised anywhere near the amount of money imported for Walker? Are you implying that the unions alone raised so much money that the local GOP was overwhelmed? And if you are indeed implying such, where is your proof?

 

[PostmodernProphet]

The report found Democrats and their backers outspent Republicans $23.4 million to $20.5 million in this summer's recalls.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/20/wisconsin-recall-elections-money_n_971599.html

In 2011, union bosses and other outside groups spent tens of millions of dollars in a failed attempt to recall six Republican state senators and are spending millions more now trying to recall Scott Walker.

The millions union bosses are now spending—paid for by union members throughout the country—has Democrats getting nervous that the money spent might strain union coffers too much prior to the November elections.

http://www.redstate.com/laborunionreport/2012/01/25/wisconsins-walker-leads-poll-as-union-bosses-burn-through-members-money/

John Fund: Unions Spent $35 Million to Defeat Wisconsin Gov. Walker — and Lost

Read more on Newsmax.com: John Fund: Unions Spent $35 Million to Defeat Wisconsin Gov. Walker — and Lost
Important: Do You Support Pres. Obama's Re-Election? Vote Here Now!

http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/fund-walker-wisconsin-recall/2011/08/10/id/406835

The government unions directly spent more than $15 million in trying to recall six Republican senators as payback for their role in reducing collective bargain powers and the ability of unions to forcibly collect dues. The reforms supported by the senators also made most state government workers pay more for their health insurance and pension benefits.

At least another $15 million from unregistered groups that do not have to provide detailed reporting came from outside groups, most of it in support of the unions’ recall effort.

http://news.heartland.org/newspaper-article/2011/08/10/wisconsin-unions-spend-tens-millions-fail-flip-state-senate

 

[Taichiliberal]

A little balance of more recent information:


Wed May 02, 2012 at 08:48 AM PDT

Scott Walker and His Big Wallet Allies Spending Record Amounts in Wisconsin Recall (Poll Update!)
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/...s-Spending-Record-Amounts-in-Wisconsin-Recall

The four Democrats will be easily outspent by Walker, whose $25.3 million raised was more than 12 times the $2 million raised by all four challengers combined. In this most recent reporting period, Walker received two-thirds of his money from out of state.
"That speaks volumes as to where his support really comes from," Barrett said while campaigning in Milwaukee on Tuesday.






Since 2011, the governor has received a total of $1.4 million from Florida donors - surpassing the $994,000 that Falk has raised both from within Wisconsin and outside the state.
"That's not a governor on our side," Falk said at a campaign event in Milwaukee. Campaigning with Christie in Oak Creek, Walker didn't talk about his fundraising but he did say he had "put the power back in the hands of the people" and not in the hands of "big-government union bosses."

 

[Rationalist]

Scott Walker leads new Wisconsin recall poll

A new poll in Wisconsin has Scott Walker holding a growing lead over Milwaukee Mayor Tom Barrett in the upcoming recall election.

The Republican governor holds a six-point lead over Democrat Barrett, 50 to 44 percent, among likely voters surveyed by Marquette Law School, May 9-12. The poll's margin of error for likely voters was plus or minus 4.1 percentage points.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS...in-recall-poll/story?id=16372293#.T7lvJ_XQf3M

 

[Taichiliberal]

Scott Walker leads new Wisconsin recall poll

A new poll in Wisconsin has Scott Walker holding a growing lead over Milwaukee Mayor Tom Barrett in the upcoming recall election.

The Republican governor holds a six-point lead over Democrat Barrett, 50 to 44 percent, among likely voters surveyed by Marquette Law School, May 9-12. The poll's margin of error for likely voters was plus or minus 4.1 percentage points.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS...in-recall-poll/story?id=16372293#.T7lvJ_XQf3M

"LIKELY VOTERS" ? 4.1 MARGIN OF ERROR? Give me a fucking break! When all is said and done, it's STILL damned close considering the shit load of money that Walker has gotten and spent that surpasses the unions and Barrett.

 

[Rationalist]

"LIKELY VOTERS" ? 4.1 MARGIN OF ERROR? Give me a fucking break! When all is said and done, it's STILL damned close considering the shit load of money that Walker has gotten and spent that surpasses the unions and Barrett.

If there were a genuine outrage toward Walker by the general public, it wouldn't matter how much money he spends.

As it stands, it appears Walker will win with at least the same percentage as when he was first elected. Poor libs.

 

[PostmodernProphet]

"LIKELY VOTERS" ? 4.1 MARGIN OF ERROR? Give me a fucking break!

yeah, we're going to count on the unlikely voters!......

 

[Rationalist]

yeah, we're going to count on the unlikely voters!......

Of course. And dead people...

 

[Cancel 2016.2]

Try READING the material provided, my Super sarcastic Freak.

Are YOU implying that the unions have raised anywhere near the amount of money imported for Walker? Are you implying that the unions alone raised so much money that the local GOP was overwhelmed? And if you are indeed implying such, where is your proof?

No, I am implying that you are ignoring the millions being spent by unions. They have spent more than $8 million in their effort to recall Walker. Add that to the Dems total spending and the difference is not nearly as dramatic as the picture you tried to paint.

 

[Mott the Hoople]

The Dems deserve to lose. I can't believe what is happening. Apparently it must suck being the Governor of Wisconsin. There are some Democrat politicians in Wisconsin (Russ Feingold for example) who could walk away with this recall election but State Dems have nominated (renominated actually) a weak candidate. I don't know much about the Mayor of Milwaukee but apparently he's very unpopular outside of the City.

 

[Cancel 2016.2]

The Dems deserve to lose. I can't believe what is happening. Apparently it must suck being the Governor of Wisconsin. There are some Democrat politicians in Wisconsin (Russ Feingold for example) who could walk away with this recall election but State Dems have nominated (renominated actually) a weak candidate. I don't know much about the Mayor of Milwaukee but apparently he's very unpopular outside of the City.

There are two reasons that even Feingold would not be likely to win:

1) Walker's reforms are working

2) Some of the Dems being surveyed are stating that they don't want to start a pattern of recall attempts every time a group doesn't like what the party in power is doing.

As I told you long ago... it is far easier to get people to sign a petition than it is to get them to vote the way you want them to.

 

[Mott the Hoople]

Funny, how the right wing is importing MILLIONS for Walker to beat out this recall....being that if he had to rely solely on local resources, it would be a guarantee that he'd get the boot.

And in typical fashion, the DNC are shooting themselves in the foot by NOT helping out the locals in their campaign. Coupled with Walker's actions to stymie new voter registration, and this one might be a win for the GOP.

But before the neocons and teabaggers all dance with glee, let's have a reality check as to just what old Scotty has actually done for Wisconsin:

Partial Truth: “We wiped out a $3.6 billion deficit.” — Walker in a campaign ad.
What’s Left Out: That’s true if you use the cash accounting method. However, using Generally Accepted Accounting Principles (GAAP) accrual accounting methods, there is a $3 billion deficit in Wisconsin’s budget in each of the next two years. While it’s perfectly legitimate for Walker to cite the cash accounting figure, that may confuse some folks who may remember that Walker used the GAAP figures to argue for cuts in state health programs.

Partial Truth: Walker says he balanced the budget “without raising taxes.” — Walker in a campaign ad.
What’s Left Out: Walker did reduce taxes overall, but his budget included reductions to two tax credits. Walker does not consider those tax increases, but the state’s nonpartisan Legislative Fiscal Bureau does.

http://factcheck.org/2012/04/the-whole-truth-in-wisconsin-air-wars/

I don't think that's an objective analysis at all. National Democratic party organization and Unions have pumped many millions into this recall election. Then inexplicably none of the Demcrats in Wisconson who have high recognizability and favorability ratings have stepped to the plate forcing State Dems to put forward several very weak candidates. The Dems are in the process of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. Running the man who lost to Walker in the first place was not a good sign of things to come.

 

[Mott the Hoople]

There are two reasons that even Feingold would not be likely to win:

1) Walker's reforms are working

2) Some of the Dems being surveyed are stating that they don't want to start a pattern of recall attempts every time a group doesn't like what the party in power is doing.

As I told you long ago... it is far easier to get people to sign a petition than it is to get them to vote the way you want them to.

#1 is debatable but #2 is very reasonable.

 

[Cancel 2016.2]

#1 is debatable but #2 is very reasonable.

True, it depends on what you view as working. Most people look to see if it saved money for the state/municipalities/school districts... in that regard it has worked by and large. Though union leaders would likely disagree. Given that the mass layoffs and other nightmare scenarios the unions pretended would result have not come to fruition. I think most people can see that as well.

But I think it is number two that will make the difference in this recall election. It is a horrid precedent to set.

 

[Bonestorm]

True, it depends on what you view as working. Most people look to see if it saved money for the state/municipalities/school districts... in that regard it has worked by and large. Though union leaders would likely disagree. Given that the mass layoffs and other nightmare scenarios the unions pretended would result have not come to fruition. I think most people can see that as well.

But I think it is number two that will make the difference in this recall election. It is a horrid precedent to set.

Request for clarification re: "most people." Is that a "most Wisconsinites I know and have spoken to?"

 

[Cancel 2016.2]

Request for clarification re: "most people." Is that a "most Wisconsinites I know and have spoken to?"

No moron. Most people in that most people when deciding if something worked financially will look at financials. I know you and Onceler are wanting to play these fucking ignorant games of semantics, but it is getting fucking old. When you want to be a grown up again, let someone know.

 

[Bonestorm]

No moron. Most people in that most people when deciding if something worked financially will look at financials. I know you and Onceler are wanting to play these fucking ignorant games of semantics, but it is getting fucking old. When you want to be a grown up again, let someone know.

 

[Taichiliberal]

Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
Funny, how the right wing is importing MILLIONS for Walker to beat out this recall....being that if he had to rely solely on local resources, it would be a guarantee that he'd get the boot.

And in typical fashion, the DNC are shooting themselves in the foot by NOT helping out the locals in their campaign. Coupled with Walker's actions to stymie new voter registration, and this one might be a win for the GOP.

But before the neocons and teabaggers all dance with glee, let's have a reality check as to just what old Scotty has actually done for Wisconsin:

Partial Truth: “We wiped out a $3.6 billion deficit.” — Walker in a campaign ad.
What’s Left Out: That’s true if you use the cash accounting method. However, using Generally Accepted Accounting Principles (GAAP) accrual accounting methods, there is a $3 billion deficit in Wisconsin’s budget in each of the next two years. While it’s perfectly legitimate for Walker to cite the cash accounting figure, that may confuse some folks who may remember that Walker used the GAAP figures to argue for cuts in state health programs.

Partial Truth: Walker says he balanced the budget “without raising taxes.” — Walker in a campaign ad.
What’s Left Out: Walker did reduce taxes overall, but his budget included reductions to two tax credits. Walker does not consider those tax increases, but the state’s nonpartisan Legislative Fiscal Bureau does.

http://factcheck.org/2012/04/the-who...nsin-air-wars/

I don't think that's an objective analysis at all. National Democratic party organization and Unions have pumped many millions into this recall election. Then inexplicably none of the Demcrats in Wisconson who have high recognizability and favorability ratings have stepped to the plate forcing State Dems to put forward several very weak candidates. The Dems are in the process of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. Running the man who lost to Walker in the first place was not a good sign of things to come.

What I reported wasn't an "analysis" but a reporting of facts that the OP and company leave out. I think it goes hand in hand with your take on the situation, of which I agree with. But DESPITE the GOP outspending the Dems this round, it's STILL a close race. Time will tell.

 

[Taichiliberal]

Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
"LIKELY VOTERS" ? 4.1 MARGIN OF ERROR? Give me a fucking break! When all is said and done, it's STILL damned close considering the shit load of money that Walker has gotten and spent that surpasses the unions and Barrett.

If there were a genuine outrage toward Walker by the general public, it wouldn't matter how much money he spends.

As it stands, it appears Walker will win with at least the same percentage as when he was first elected. Poor libs.

So I point out the obvious flaws in the information you provided, and you respond with some willfully ignorant BS about "genuine outrage". Obviously, you've been glued to Drudge and Limbaugh and haven't been paying attention to what started this recall business in Wisconsin in the first place.

The recall isn't over yet, toodles.

 

[Taichiliberal]

Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
Try READING the material provided, my Super sarcastic Freak.

Are YOU implying that the unions have raised anywhere near the amount of money imported for Walker? Are you implying that the unions alone raised so much money that the local GOP was overwhelmed? And if you are indeed implying such, where is your proof?

No, I am implying that you are ignoring the millions being spent by unions. They have spent more than $8 million in their effort to recall Walker. Add that to the Dems total spending and the difference is not nearly as dramatic as the picture you tried to paint.

I ignore NOTHING. You're inserting your own misconceptions as usual because YOU are relying on OLD information, Freako.....pay attention: http://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...st-recall-election-poll&p=1003851#post1003851