Wishing, Hoping and Praying

[Epicurus]

Try to convince me. I won't argue one way or the other but show me any evidence that convinces you.

 

[Litmus]

Try to convince me. I won't argue one way or the other but show me any evidence that convinces you.

I don't feel like it right now.

but if you want to start on your own, start with reading about this book

Dope, Inc.

 

[Epicurus]

I would say you are right that the government makes money off the Drug War, but not the way you're thinking.

Seizures of massive amounts of cash, homes, cars, boats, motorcycles, electronic equipment, business assets, and bank accounts ensure that the government turns a tidy profit from the War on Drugs. Plus, it's great PR.

Many libertarians attack the war on drugs from a fiscal angle, claiming it to be a waste of resources. I don't have the numbers at hand to substantiate this claim, but I would imagine that the value of trafficking related seizures in the US is in the tens of billions of dollars.

 

[Litmus]

I would say you are right that the government makes money off the Drug War, but not the way you're thinking.

Seizures of massive amounts of cash, homes, cars, boats, motorcycles, electronic equipment, business assets, and bank accounts ensure that the government turns a tidy profit from the War on Drugs. Plus, it's great PR.

Many libertarians attack the war on drugs from a fiscal angle, claiming it to be a waste of resources. I don't have the numbers at hand to substantiate this claim, but I would imagine that the value of trafficking related seizures in the US is in the tens of billions of dollars.

No. They make it the way I'm thinking, and the way you're thinking.

 

[OrnotBitwise]

Is he still "hoping and praying we bomb the Iranians" here or not?

I can't watch video at work, but there is no context for that. You don't pray to God to drop bombs on people, and anyone who thinks you do, has serious problems, both mentally and spiritually.

Absolutely. This is an immoral piece of decaying meat. There is NO excuse for such an opinion. Ever. Under any circumstances. One might, conceivably, wish for it in a moment of passion but only a moral cripple would allow such an impulse to formulate his beliefs.

 

[Litmus]

Absolutely. This is an immoral piece of decaying meat. There is NO excuse for such an opinion. Ever. Under any circumstances. One might, conceivably, wish for it in a moment of passion but only a moral cripple would allow such an impulse to formulate his beliefs.

But as a globalist, isn't it your belief that Iran should be forcibly integrated into the global community, and punished for it's ambitions?

 

[DigitalDave]

I would say you are right that the government makes money off the Drug War, but not the way you're thinking.

Seizures of massive amounts of cash, homes, cars, boats, motorcycles, electronic equipment, business assets, and bank accounts ensure that the government turns a tidy profit from the War on Drugs. Plus, it's great PR.

Many libertarians attack the war on drugs from a fiscal angle, claiming it to be a waste of resources. I don't have the numbers at hand to substantiate this claim, but I would imagine that the value of trafficking related seizures in the US is in the tens of billions of dollars.

My angle has always ben the overcrowding of prisons. Who belongs in jail more, a violent drunk that doesn't pay his child support, or a non-violent pot smoker who was too lazy to have sex with anyone?

 

[Damocles]

But as a globalist, isn't it your belief that Iran should be forcibly integrated into the global community, and punished for it's ambitions?

Of course not. Since they are not American they are "victims" and therefore get to do what they will without any judgement on their action. They are just retaliating for their victimhood and even their actions cannot be judged as "evil", we must seek the way that the American people caused their action, and thus punish ourselves more.

All things bad extend from one source only, America. They are caused by our actions, reflect only responses to our actions, and cannot possibly be caused by corrupt governments where the people live themselves, or even be spoken of as their own responsibility. You see, it is the fault of the CIA that their government is corrupt to begin with, if the CIA didn't exist there would never be corruption in their government. The CIA teaches them that killing children is good, especially when you smash them against rocks, and promotes such an activity all the time. You can tell this because we arrest the bad guys and fly them places with no children evident and no dashing against the rocks. But that means that we teach them these tactics because we clearly are doing it to those people.....

/simplifications and /sarcasm