Would Gore take the nomination over Hillary?

He's not running. That's my wager.

Which makes me sad

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I'd say that he was not before this. After this, well..... It has to be harder to not give it another go. I can't see him spending his life with a "I told you so" attitude instead of a "roll up the sleeves and get to work" attitude.
 
Well, as we have discussed before, I think that Gore today, is the best candidate.

I am unsure if he could overcome the Clinton machine in a primary. But he would be my choice.

I'm don't think he is the best candidate and he is certainly not the best candidate on the issues of war and change. He'd probably make a good environmental president .. but beyond that, who knows what we'd get.

He hasn't demonstrated the political intelligence, courage, and will that I believe to be essential in my opinion.

Running away from Clinton was not intelligent and demonstrated no courage to stand up against the right.

Picking Lieberman was mindless.

Abandoning Florida voters was stupid and cowardly. When Kerry ran in '04 he had to promise Florida voters that he would not run as Gore did.
 
I'm don't think he is the best candidate and he is certainly not the best candidate on the issues of war and change. He'd probably make a good environmental president .. but beyond that, who knows what we'd get.

He hasn't demonstrated the political intelligence, courage, and will that I believe to be essential in my opinion.

Running away from Clinton was not intelligent and demonstrated no courage to stand up against the right.

Picking Lieberman was mindless.

Abandoning Florida voters was stupid and cowardly. When Kerry ran in '04 he had to promise Florida voters that he would not run as Gore did.


I disagree on this. Who do you think is the best candidate?
 
15% for an unannounced candidate is pretty strong.

He could take the nomination if he chose to.

Gore might earn my vote, but under no circumstances would I ever vote for Hildebeast.

I don't think she's going to do good with men, they all have nicknames for her.
 
I don't think she's going to do good with men, they all have nicknames for her.
We have nicknames for her husband and Gore, as well as Lieberman, et al.

You have nicknames for Rush, and Hannity... Hmmm.... I like ours better.

:D
 
I can't see it being a "rollover" when it went all the way to the highest court. Seriously. I think most people do not see it your way.

That may be how it is seen in the circles you travel in, but it's not in mine.

Gore was spineless in 2000 and was guided by focus groups and polls more than he was on principle. His agenda was based on pandering and was suckered by the right to believe that Clinton was toxic, which was far from the truth. He even when so far as to pick a Clinton critic and jewish extremist as his running mate. I'm sure some focus group told him that was smart.

The Supreme Court broke the law and stopped the recount and Gore just folds. His strategy to recount only certain districts in Florida was dumb .. and to add insult to his dumbness, when the Congressional Black Caucus tried to protest the illegal seizing of power, it was Gore who gaveled them down and wouldn't let them speak.

Analysis: Odds Against Gore Run
By RON FOURNIER – 2 hours ago
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jj-6gfTv_7oHjIhM1XVk0Jjt3U9gD8S7NMPG0

WASHINGTON (AP) — He's baaack.

Former Vice President Al Gore on Friday won the Nobel Peace Prize for his fight against global warming, fueling speculation that he might enter next year's crowded Democratic presidential race.

Don't count on it. Odds are that Gore won't risk his Nobel-burnished image and huge public platform with a return to the rough-and-tumble world of politics — at least not in 2008, advisers say.

"We face a true planetary emergency," Gore said in a statement shortly after winning the prize. "The climate crisis is not a political issue ..."

Actually, it is. Years after Gore adopted climate change as his signature issue, Democrats and Republicans alike now face the scientific certainty of global warming and a public that wants something done about it.

Nobody is better positioned than Gore to ride the issue to the White House.

Two Gore advisers, speaking on condition of anonymity because they are not authorized to share his thinking, said the award will not make it any more likely that he will seek the presidency. If anything, the Peace Prize makes the presidential race less appealing to Gore, they said, because now he has an international platform to fight global warming and may not want to do anything to diminish it.

One adviser said that while Gore is unlikely to rule out a presidential bid in the coming days, the prospects of the former vice president entering the fray in 2008 are "extremely remote."

Gore's 2000 campaign manager, Donna Brazile, said the prize would not influence his decision.

"This clearly will help make this campaign he's embarking on on climate change an even larger campaign, and he'll have an even louder voice," Brazile said. "But for now he's citizen Al Gore, and I think he's comfortable being citizen Al Gore."

"Citizen Al" is 59, young enough to run for the presidency in 2012. For now, look for Gore to stick with his coy refrain: He has "no plans" to seek the presidency.

Plans, of course, can change.

"I've called Al Gore and urged him to run for president so many times," former President Carter told NBC's "Today" show. "He finally told me the last time, 'President Carter, please do not call me.'"

Carter added, "I can at least do it indirectly through the news media."

Also indirectly pressing Gore are scores of Internet-savvy supporters who are raising thousands of dollars for petition drives and advertising in an effort to lure him into the race. One group, Draftgore.com, ran a full-page open letter to Gore in Wednesday's New York Times, imploring him to enter the race.

Associates of Gore say the upsides of seeking the presidency are obvious to the former vice president:

_ There is no better place to fight global warming than the Oval Office.

_ He has the money (Internet stocks made him rich after leaving the White House), the following and name recognition needed to launch a serious campaign. "An Inconvenient Truth," the global-warming documentary about his work, won an Oscar earlier this year.

_ He is not convinced that the current field is committed to the cause of global warming.

But he also knows that it's late in the cycle and the race has taken shape without him, associates say, with polls showing that Democratic voters are satisfied with the current crop of candidates. A losing or nasty political campaign could tarnish his carefully crafted image as a man above politics.

Finally, and perhaps most significantly, Gore never really had the stomach for tough political fights, which is one reason why he didn't make the best candidate in 2000.

There's no doubt that Gore would not be welcomed by the Democratic candidates, especially front-running Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton — the former first lady who had a prickly relationship with Gore while they were in the White House. In the 1990s, the vice president and first lady vied for then-President Clinton's political capital as they staked out their futures.

Asked by NBC this week if she expected to face Gore in the primary fight, Clinton said coolly, "You know, I think we've got great candidates running. We have a wonderful field."

One in which she hopes never includes Gore.

"Congratulations!" read the home page of Sen. Clinton's campaign Web site Friday, featuring a picture of the former vice president. "His dedication and tireless work have been instrumental in raising international awareness about global warming."

Next to Gore's picture is a box that says, "Eight things you can do" to help Clinton become president.
 
I disagree on this. Who do you think is the best candidate?

In my opinon Kucinich is the best candidate.

Of course he won't win but neither would Gore.

I want this horror and tragedy of war to end and Gore wouldn't be any different than Clinton on war and he's just as prone to pandering to the right and religious nut cases as any candidate running.
 
In my opinon Kucinich is the best candidate.

Of course he won't win but neither would Gore.

I want this horror and tragedy of war to end and Gore wouldn't be any different than Clinton on war and he's just as prone to pandering to the right and religious nut cases as any candidate running.

Ohh, Kucinich, yeah, definitely. I voted for him in the 04 primary, even though Kerry had already locked it up. I might very well vote for him again this time, even though as you say, he won't win.

But if Gore enters, I think he would be different than Hillary on the war. No one is going to be Kucinich, that's true.
 
He does indeed have that "American Idol" thing going for him now, but there are many on the left who remain unimpressed and who remember his rollover in 2000.

He appeals to a particular segment of liberals which accounts for his 15% showing.
This whole rollover thing always kills me. He did not rollover. He did suffer from some very short sited advice. When the Gore camp chose to challenge only a PORTION of the florida vote, I knew he had lost. He should have demanded a statewide recount, it would have counted every ballot cast and not just some, so there would be no equal protection issues and the so long as the laws of Florida were followed in a recount, the SCOTUS would have had NO STANDING to even hear the case. But the guy did not roll over. He lost the attempted at a focused recount and when that happened the election was over.
 
I think he would beat Hillary, I think he would beat both right and left.
 
I could retire the year after Gore wins if he runs.
My guess is he was hoping the dem candidates would be as in popular as the repubs are. He faced with a wildly popular potential first female pees who is tougher on the cons than he ever was.
As to the dem not wanting another Clinton, utter nonsense.
Bill is worshiped by them the way Reagan is by the right.
 
I could retire the year after Gore wins if he runs.
My guess is he was hoping the dem candidates would be as in popular as the repubs are. He faced with a wildly popular potential first female pees who is tougher on the cons than he ever was.
As to the dem not wanting another Clinton, utter nonsense.
Bill is worshiped by them the way Reagan is by the right.

I don't know about that Bill and Reagan comparison.

Reagan started the "Reagan Revolution" which was a major sea change in the Republican Party. 20 years later Republicans are debating over who is most "Reaganesque".

I think Clinton was most popular with the Democrats because he was a two-term President. And while many Democrats may like Clinton a good number may not want to see some/many of his DLC or "triangulation" policies continue going forward.
 
Listen to dem talk about Bill. Right wing ghestapo types don't or won't get it.

I get that he is loved among Democrats; even more now after Bush has been President but I would still argue his legacy on the Democratic Party will not be the same as Reagan's.
 
it's all in the eye of the beholder, I personally loved the wealth Reagan created.
But on hearing the economic evidence the dems here pissed on his grave like he was Jeffery Dhamer.
 
Political Masturbation at it's best.............

Sorry Boys and girls..it's not going to be Gore,Clinton or Obama or any other front runner..it's going to be a 'Black Horse Candidate' that takes the prize...the time is ripe and history will repeat...!;)
 
Ohh, Kucinich, yeah, definitely. I voted for him in the 04 primary, even though Kerry had already locked it up. I might very well vote for him again this time, even though as you say, he won't win.

But if Gore enters, I think he would be different than Hillary on the war. No one is going to be Kucinich, that's true.

In Mississippi the Democratic party gives us less delegates than we have electoral votes. There's 535 electors and more than 2000 Democratic delegates in total. Sucks for our state :)

I'll make sure to try to give one of those electoral votes to kucinich, though ;).
 
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Lets say that Gore decides to enter the race. Can he beat out Hillary at this point?

yup----dems-liberals-progressives etc have been falling all over themselves for years now trying to heap praises and quetsionable accolades on the "guy who got screwed by Bush". The presidency is the only award that will satiate them. (oh ya imho)
 
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