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Socrtease
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No, I am not afraid of Moslems. I am not afraid of black men. I am not afraid of any one group of people because of what a small group of people inside that group may have done. However, I understand the psychology of that fear in others. What Williams did was voice his fear. What you and others have done is equate him with Kluckers and skinheads. His fear based on a prejudice is not the same as people who live their whole lives fearing and hating a whole group because they are black or engaged in some fictional Noahide conspiracy. To quote Jules Winnfield, "ain't the same fucking ball park. It ain't the same league. It ain't even the same fucking sport."
Interesting; I even said that what Juan stated is not like what those hate groups spread, yet you still put it that way.
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I am sorry that you are a racist. It is just something you will have to deal with eventually. Obviously you hate black men speaking their opinions on an OP ED show just as much as NPR does...
Socrtease
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Well until 5 posts ago you had not acknowledged that Williams was not a bigot. There has been the effort on here to avoid seeing that the Jackson comments were every bit as bigoted as the Williams comment and until I brought it up, the trend was to compare Williams to O'Reilly and make him appear to be a right wing muslim hater. It has taken 100 posts for any on the left to acknowledge this.
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Funny how the first comment got all the press when the second comment is totally acknowledging the wrongness of his feeling.
“Wait a second though, wait, hold on, because if you said Timothy McVeigh, the Atlanta bomber, these people who are protesting against homosexuality at military funerals, very obnoxious, you don't say first and foremost, we got a problem with Christians. That's crazy.”
“Wait a second though, wait, hold on, because if you said Timothy McVeigh, the Atlanta bomber, these people who are protesting against homosexuality at military funerals, very obnoxious, you don't say first and foremost, we got a problem with Christians. That's crazy.”
That's idiotic. You're just trying to cover your tracks. Fact is, you were putting words in my mouth well after I clarified my views, several times.
I even said much earlier in the thread that my problem was not so much w/ Juan's feelings on the plane, but with his blanket agreement w/ O'Reilly's views on the topic, which I feel are fairly indefensible.
It gets worse for them. Just after the $1.8 Million donation from Soros they fire this guy and say that it was because he expressed an opinion as a News Analyst, and that News Analysts and reporters aren't allowed...
Does anybody remember that lady who (paraphrasing here, obviously, no quote boxes) wished that Helms and/or his grandchildren would get AIDS? Seriously, she wasn't just an analyst, she was whole hawg NPR reporter going all into political positions...
I mean, if they had even a modicum of a past for firing people in reporting or analyzing roles for saying horrific stuff they might have some credibility for this excuse, but seriously there isn't any. They fired him for working at FOX and speaking his mind. The government owned and run radio station just took government action against political speech. This isn't going to go down well with anybody at all except the most slavering imbecile who worships everything that may come from the left...
Now we know what $1.8 Million can buy you a radio station's loyalty without having to invest the actual money it would take to buy one.
That's hilarious. I also never said that Williams was a bigot, only that his statement was bigoted, which is true. In fact, I don't think anyone on this thread actually called Williams a racist or a bigot at all.
And even assuming you are correct that "the trend was to compare Williams to O'Reilly," maybe that has a little something to do with the fact that Williams expressly state that he agreed with O'Reilly.
The topic they were discussing was whether political correctness is curbing our ability to speak about things like the feeling Juan might get when on a plane with people dressed and clearly identifying as solely Muslims.
What is it about O'Reilly's views on that topic (you know this one: political correctness curbs our ability to handle problems as we are no longer able to speak on them) are "indefensible"?
Dixie - In Memoriam
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...And the Democrat/Liberal poll numbers continue to decline!
The prejudicial generalization of an entire group of people based solely on their religion.
To be fair, he did it both ways. After he said "Muslims attacked us," he qualified it with "I really like Muslims, though"....
Just give a link, Damo. There's no way in hell that you just "remembered" something that happened in 1995 on an obscure Sunday show appearing on PBS that lie 11 people in the country actually watched when it aired. Let's get real.
You're a total jackass. Here's a newsflash for you: Juan Williams has been a FOXNews contributor for like 10 years. If his working for FOX were really that big of an issue his ass would have been canned a long time ago. Yes, he was fired for speaking his mind. That's quite the point. And NPR is not government owned and run. It just isn't.
By the way, your right-wing freakshow is shining through again.
Juan Williams could not possibly be unbiased and objective...he worked for NPR....those two things a mutually exclusive....Its like thinking Hannity will get his own show on MSNBC.....
It just ain't gonna happen....
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MUSLIMS ATTACKED US! That is a FACT! It shouldn't be politically incorrect to say that! Granted, they were radical Muslims, extremists, maybe even fringe extremists, but they were indeed Muslims! Why is THAT bigoted or prejudiced? When the Japanese attacked us at Pearl Harbor, did we say it was "radical" Japanese? I suspect there were a great many Japanese who didn't approve of the attack, but it doesn't change the fact of who attacked us!
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What is truly amazing is that they fired him for ONE PORTION of his comments, despite the fact that he stated rather clearly how irrational that thought process was.
They were looking for an excuse to fire him.... most likely because they never liked the fact he appears on Fox.
Or.... they are indeed racists. I will let Nigel (the hack mouthpiece for NPR) tell us which it is.
Japan is a country, so yeah - they attacked us. Nice strawman.
Men attacked us on 9/11, as well - do you oppose the construction of male-owned businesses around ground zero, and use "men attacked us!" as justification?