Since you waived the rest of my post (as per usual, you hate it when people talk about your beloved war in human terms), I will respond to you in terms you may or may not understand.
I'm betting on me NOT understanding.
You are painting a rosy picture of this war.
No, I am not. I have said many times, it is a war, a terrible, awful, horrific, bloody, tough war. There is nothing easy about establishing democracy in a part of the world it has never been known before. No one has ever been under the delusion this was easy or rosy in the least.
I have pointed out, from an attrition standpoint, this war probably sets records for fewest casualties of wars its length. This does not mean the people who died didn't mean anything, it simply means what it says, as wars go, we aren't losing the numbers of soldiers of past wars. We lost more American lives the first 15 minutes of Normandy, than the past two years in Iraq. We expended more lives than the entire Iraq war, trying to occupy a 4-square-mile rock in the middle of the Pacific. I am not saying things are great and wonderful in Iraq, I am merely putting Iraq into context.
You are willing to send more and more of our men's lives, arms, legs, eyes and futures to their demise for this war, and decide that this is a good thing.
I think it's a good thing we win this war, otherwise the people who have made that sacrifice have died for naught. Unless we just don't have another damn choice, I think we owe it to these brave heroes to finish the job.
If you think that we are only losing 1-2 soldiers a week, or that that's a cheap enough price (as much of a lie as it is, we're losing much more than that, thanks to your ilk), and that what we are doing in Iraq is virtuous and good and worth the blood , then what more is there to say.
I think we are losing far less in this war than any war in history. In fact, the ability of modern medicine to save lives has kept fatalities down, which has the consequence of producing more wounded, which our system is not really designed to handle. So there is a down-side to not having as many casualties, and one that we need to address. But to sit here and pretend we are in some unwinnable Vietnam-like conflict, is borderline retardation.
A rose is a rose Dix. And this is one flower you planted, turned into a monster and now continue to feed.
What the fuck are you even talking about here? You sound like Baretta!
Forgive me Dix, but I can't find that silver lining you keep promising.
Hummm.. let me scan my memory???? Don't seem to recall ever promising a silver lining. In fact, don't recall ever making YOU any promise!
Would you be happy to see a loved one of yours sent to this war? Would you?
I have several loved ones there right now! They weren't "sent" there though, they volunteered, as have all the people currently serving in the US Armed Forces. I'm sorry, but it sounds like you want me to believe it's 1968 again, and that is not reality.
The reality is, we are in the midst of a military conflict in Iraq. Like it or not, we are there, and we have a clear objective and job to finish. The Iraqi's have established a democratic government, have elected representation, have seated a parliament, and have trained military personnel. They have done so under the constant and REAL threats of death, from radical religious freaks who want to control all the people of the middle east. You are allowing your knee-jerk liberal emotionalism to tell you it's best to throw all of this away and let the radicals have Iraq! It's utterly insane what you propose, and I don't know how you people can even get the thought out of your mouths without realizing the abject stupidity of it. To abandon these people now, would not only be a totally unethical and demoralizing act toward the people of Iraq, it would enable the very element we are fighting in the war on terror, to pretty much have their way with Iraq.
The thing is, you really don't give two of your obviously massive shits about the people of Iraq! You know full well, just as every "expert" who's objectively looked at Iraq, that if we leave now, Iraq is doomed to collapse. The Plan is, when this happens, it's just more fault and blame you can heap on Bush! That is what you and the left-wing are after here, you want to be the fly in any possible ointment, you have no intentions of trying to win anything in Iraq, and if we do happen to gain something, you will refuse to acknowledge it.
You will sit here and try to convince me that I have no compassion for our soldiers, or the innocent Iraqi's who are dying in this war, yet you advocate an idea that would result in MORE death to Iraqi's, the ones who supported us in any way, are first on the list! AND to give the insurgent radical element a huge reward for their patience and persistence! Not to mention, completely nullifying the purpose and cause of those who have made the ultimate sacrifice. Think about that a moment, you want to take a huge Beefy sized dump on the very cause these soldiers gave their life for... their life! They are dead, in the grave, never to live life again! They made that sacrifice for what? So a bunch of knee-jerk liberals could get their fucking way, and turn Iraq over to the enemy? So some bunch of 'pseudo-conservatives' could win popularity among the idiots of the world, and join in on getting their jollies trashing the president?
I was right from the start, I don't understand. I really don't.
