This is telling. The difference between you and somebody sane, is that the sane people agree that there is no silver lining, and thus we should seek a rational end to this thing. The insane realize there is no silver lining and continue to dump gas on the fire, blood on Iraq.
No, the insane want to squander the blood and money already spent and smear the president, as they have for the past 7 years, while they run around with their hair on fire, and pretend we are in 1968. The only "rational" end to this thing, is us winning and coming home victorious, otherwise the enemy wins and the people of Iraq lose big time. Most rational and sane people realize this, which is why we haven't already cut and run in Iraq.
What is telling is, you categorize the sending of reinforcements as "dumping gas on the fire" in Iraq. Who's fucking side are you on, anyway? Have you EVER fought for anything? Do you even have a concept of what fighting is about? What would you do if I popped you in your big stupid nose, run away? Because anything you would do to retaliate, would just be 'pouring gas on the fire', wouldn't it? That is essentially your position, and it is one of complete cowardice.
You need a reason to get pissed off and want to fight this war? How about those Marines they strung up on the bridge? You want us to just turn tail and run from the people who did that? Of course you do! You don't give a flying fuck about anything but yourself, and your dead-in-the-water libertarianism!
None of you give a damn about being reasonable, about being objective and finding solutions to the problems, you just want to keep on heaping scorn and criticisms on Bush, and insisting we pretent Iraq is Vietnam and bring our yellow asses home right now! Every idea, every suggestion, is predicated on some unfounded fear and uncertainty you have about America's ability to finish the job in Iraq. The president sends in reinforcements, and you can't wait until their damn boots hit the sand in Iraq before you are here telling us how it isn't going to work, it's pointless, we should just give up! You've kept up this inceasant rant until you've managed to somehow convince people like Damo and klaatu, that your idiotic and disasterous approach is a good idea!
You and your buddy doves on the left have railroaded this war, like you railroaded Vietnam, by using the media and this constant drumbeat of negativity, to errode any support for the war. You have managed to ostracize anyone who dare put a fucking magnet on their mini-van or fly a flag! We have been called every name in the book, and constantly attacked, to the point that some people are now ashamed to even admit they ever supported the war, or voted for Bush. I've never seen anything like it in my life, a bunch of television-addicted pill-popping gen-x sheep have followed you to the edge of the cliff and are prepared to jump with you on this!
Maybe you are too caught up in your own little bubble world, and just can't comprehend what is happening, and what is going to happen in Iraq if we don't prevail. Maybe you, like Hamilton, Baker, Bush, Cheney, Rice, Blair, McCain, Lieberman, Malaki and almost everyone who has any sense, know precisely what is going to happen in Iraq if we don't prevail, and it ain't pretty? Maybe you don't give two massive beefy shits? Who the fuck knows?
The bottom line is this... We are IN Iraq now. We are doing a job there, NOW! We can leave, abandon the job, and allow nuts to take over the place and ruin everything we've built so far, and waste all the money we have spent so far, and completely forsake the objectives of people who are no longer here to have a say in it, because they already gave their lives for it.
That is what you want to do, and it looks like you have just about convinced enough people to go along with it. I blamed the failure in Vietnam on Johnson, but I'll blame the failure of Iraq on you. Bush is doing what he is supposed to do, he has sent more troops, and is trying to prevail in some sense of victory here, and it CAN most certainly be done, it's not out of the question at all, in fact, there have been numerous positive developments in Iraq, you just haven't acknowledged any of them. And you don't ever plan to! I get it, more than you think!