WuFlu may be weakening

Darth Omar said:
That it’s weakening lol?

The study suggests that. It’s not a strong claim. Viruses aren’t static things: they can mutate into less virulent forms over time. It has replicated itself trillions of times by now; mistakes get made in transcription—mistake gets passed on to the next generation.

Weaker virus.
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Weaker means less potent. Decreasing is a better term as it has stated in the article you linked to.
 
AProudLefty said:
Weaker means less potent. Decreasing is a better term as it has stated in the article you linked to.
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Semantics.

Decreasing in severity is the same as weakening. If COVID decreases in severity to where it’s equivalent to the flu [always has been equivalent to the flu in the young population]—then it is weaker.

If it is unable to propagate itself to produce high viral loads—it’s weaker. It’s a distinction without a different.

The OP question is what does any of this have to do with masks and lockdowns? Still waiting.
 
Darth Omar said:
Semantics.

Decreasing in severity is the same as weakening. If COVID decreases in severity to where it’s equivalent to the flu [always has been equivalent to the flu in the young population]—then it is weaker.

If it is unable to propagate itself to produce high viral loads—it’s weaker. It’s a distinction without a different.

The OP question is what does any of this have to do with masks and lockdowns? Still waiting.
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Thank you for conceding.

It shows that the recommendations are working.

We have a long way to go. I hope the vaccine gets developed ASAP.
 
Darth Omar said:
DETROIT, Mich. — While some health experts warn of a possible second wave in the coronavirus pandemic, a new study is pointing to signs that COVID-19’s severity may be fading. Researchers at Wayne State University say viral loads from patients are continuing to decrease as the pandemic progresses. This is also showing a connection to a lowering death rate.

“Rapid implementation of social distancing measures, lockdown and widespread use of facemasks may have contributed to a decrease in the exposure to the virus.”

https://www.studyfinds.org/coronavirus-viral-load-declining/?amp&__twitter_impression=true
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Interesting study.

The COVID death rate has dropped since early in the epidemic and the virus weakening would explain it. Arguably, the most plausible explanation, actually.

Though it’s interesting [and perhaps predictable] how they concluded it was likely due to man’s actions and not a natural consequence. If people are carrying a lower viral load—that has nothing to do with the rate of transmission; rather, it means the virus is less able to propagate itself within the host *after* the host has been infected.

Hence, the lower death rate.

And if the virus is showing a decreased ability to propagate it’s either weakening or something is going on with the populations immune systems. Most likely, it’s just weakening. Not like it’s never happened before.

At any rate, if this study reflects reality then this is good news. We have likely seen the worst of it.
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This sounds like the usual unreliable propaganda site. What makes me suspicious is that this site is parroting the same disinformation that Trump is spewing out, which is in conflict with the CDC.
 
BartenderElite said:
So, you're only cherrypicking the parts of this that you like?
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No, I’m thinking critically lol.

Apparently, it’s a lost art. The recommendations were a means to cut down on the rate of transmission. The study only addressed what was happening *after* transmission.

It suggested the virus was decreasing in severity: which is the proper conclusion if there was decrease in viral loads. Higher viral load, greater risk of severe illness etc.

So, how did the recommendations cause the virus to decrease in severity, given the fact, that recommendations can only decrease the rate of transmission?
 
AProudLefty said:
Notice she didn't say "weaker"?
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The viral loads are lower.......

"From April 4 to June 5, a downward trend in the amount of virus detected in patients at Detroit Medical Center was discovered.

To estimate the viral loads coming from nasopharyngeal swabs, study authors use a cycle threshold (Ct) value that comes from the tests on these samples. A higher Ct means a sample has less SARS-CoV-2 in it. Their scale rates a high viral load as a Ct of 25 and under, intermediate loads as a Ct between 26-36, and low viral loads as a Ct over 37."
 
Stretch said:
The viral loads are lower.......

"From April 4 to June 5, a downward trend in the amount of virus detected in patients at Detroit Medical Center was discovered.

To estimate the viral loads coming from nasopharyngeal swabs, study authors use a cycle threshold (Ct) value that comes from the tests on these samples. A higher Ct means a sample has less SARS-CoV-2 in it. Their scale rates a high viral load as a Ct of 25 and under, intermediate loads as a Ct between 26-36, and low viral loads as a Ct over 37."
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When did it occur to them to report PCR results on a scale lol?

Yay for small victories.
 
AProudLefty said:
It's right there in the article.
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"Dr. El Zein admits the team doesn’t know the exact reason why viral loads are dropping over time, but suggests the pandemic’s severity is fading since a global crisis was officially declared on March 11. Part of this, he adds, may be due to the public’s actions to curb the spread."
 
Darth Omar said:
No, I’m thinking critically lol.

Apparently, it’s a lost art. The recommendations were a means to cut down on the rate of transmission. The study only addressed what was happening *after* transmission.

It suggested the virus was decreasing in severity: which is the proper conclusion if there was decrease in viral loads. Higher viral load, greater risk of severe illness etc.

So, how did the recommendations cause the virus to decrease in severity, given the fact, that recommendations can only decrease the rate of transmission?
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So, you're actually not aware that the more virus you get in your body, the more sick you're likely to get?

And that masks are instrumental in reducing that?

JPP science.
 
Stretch said:
"Dr. El Zein admits the team doesn’t know the exact reason why viral loads are dropping over time, but suggests the pandemic’s severity is fading since a global crisis was officially declared on March 11. Part of this, he adds, may be due to the public’s actions to curb the spread."
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Yep. Very interesting.
 
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