Yes, it's happening to me too.

Hello TTQ64,

TTQ64 said:
Under the bill, Medicaid recipients in 17 mostly white counties, all represented by Republican senators, would be exempt from the work requirements, according to an analysis by the Center for Michigan, a think tank. But Medicaid recipients in the six municipalities with the highest unemployment rates, including Detroit and Flint, would have to work at least 29 hours a week to keep their health benefits. All six cities have black majorities or significant numbers of black residents.
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That's ridiculous. According to the Federal Department of Labor BLS definitions, a worker only needs to work one (1) hour per week to qualify as 'employed' and be removed from being counted as unemployed.

Detroit could theoretically see it's unemployment rate go to ZERO, and there would still be thousands of people unable to support themselves, because they are underemployed.

The Unemployment Rate is thus not truly representative of our employment picture. Millions of Americans, many of them on socialist government assistance programs, are working but they cannot get enough hours to earn enough to support themselves.

Capitalism has failed our society.

There are simply not enough jobs to go around!

There are not enough jobs for everyone to have a reasonable income from a full time job which would allow them to support themselves or raise a family.

That's what capitalism has done to us.

Increasing profits means reducing expenses, and labor is often the largest expense a business has. Capitalism has sought to eliminate as many jobs as possible, and it has also sought to reduce hours for what jobs remain. Capitalism also seeks to eliminate as many well-paying jobs and benefits as possible such that any job which can be downgraded, any function which might have previously been performed by a higher-paid worker, which can be shifted to a low-paid part-time worker has been identified and shifted so that employers can reduce the number of well-paid jobs with good benefits.

And this will not stop.

It is ridiculous to be mandating that people work at jobs which simply are not there for them to work.

We need socialism to pick up the slack where capitalism is failing us.

And we need to tax the super-rich more to pay for it.
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello TTQ64,



That's ridiculous. According to the Federal Department of Labor BLS definitions, a worker only needs to work one (1) hour per week to qualify as 'employed' and be removed from being counted as unemployed.

Detroit could theoretically see it's unemployment rate go to ZERO, and there would still be thousands of people unable to support themselves, because they are underemployed.

The Unemployment Rate is thus not truly representative of our employment picture. Millions of Americans, many of them on socialist government assistance programs, are working but they cannot get enough hours to earn enough to support themselves.

Capitalism has failed our society.

There are simply not enough jobs to go around!

There are not enough jobs for everyone to have a reasonable income from a full time job which would allow them to support themselves or raise a family.

That's what capitalism has done to us.

Increasing profits means reducing expenses, and labor is often the largest expense a business has. Capitalism has sought to eliminate as many jobs as possible, and it has also sought to reduce hours for what jobs remain. Capitalism also seeks to eliminate as many well-paying jobs and benefits as possible such that any job which can be downgraded, any function which might have previously been performed by a higher-paid worker, which can be shifted to a low-paid part-time worker has been identified and shifted so that employers can reduce the number of well-paid jobs with good benefits.

And this will not stop.

It is ridiculous to be mandating that people work at jobs which simply are not there for them to work.

We need socialism to pick up the slack where capitalism is failing us.

And we need to tax the super-rich more to pay for it.
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You are preaching to the choir.
 
TTQ64 said:
Something along the lines of Racist white republicans in charge of Michigan.....can't remember for sure, but it wasn't what it is now.

I did it because all the racist whites on this board say the "urban areas" of Michigan are run by Black Democrats and I always say no they are not. It's racist republican policies running the cities and the entire state.

Maybe I accidentally left it blank and someone filled it in......shrugging shoulders. Trying to give the benefit of the doubt.
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You did not leave it blank. I was the first to respond to this thread shortly after you posted it, and I am 99% sure the thread title was completely altered from what you wrote originally.
 
When will people learn that the Republican Party is just a party of Nazis, racists, Klansmen, economic frauds, and poseurs?
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello TTQ64,



That's ridiculous. According to the Federal Department of Labor BLS definitions, a worker only needs to work one (1) hour per week to qualify as 'employed' and be removed from being counted as unemployed.

Detroit could theoretically see it's unemployment rate go to ZERO, and there would still be thousands of people unable to support themselves, because they are underemployed.

The Unemployment Rate is thus not truly representative of our employment picture. Millions of Americans, many of them on socialist government assistance programs, are working but they cannot get enough hours to earn enough to support themselves.

Capitalism has failed our society.

There are simply not enough jobs to go around!

There are not enough jobs for everyone to have a reasonable income from a full time job which would allow them to support themselves or raise a family.

That's what capitalism has done to us.

Increasing profits means reducing expenses, and labor is often the largest expense a business has. Capitalism has sought to eliminate as many jobs as possible, and it has also sought to reduce hours for what jobs remain. Capitalism also seeks to eliminate as many well-paying jobs and benefits as possible such that any job which can be downgraded, any function which might have previously been performed by a higher-paid worker, which can be shifted to a low-paid part-time worker has been identified and shifted so that employers can reduce the number of well-paid jobs with good benefits.

And this will not stop.

It is ridiculous to be mandating that people work at jobs which simply are not there for them to work.

We need socialism to pick up the slack where capitalism is failing us.

And we need to tax the super-rich more to pay for it.
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Totally agree.

We are going to need a Universal Basic Income.
 
Hello and welcome The Derp,

Thanks for chiming in with your view. I hope you hang around for much more and continue to contribute to the conversation.

The Derp said:
When will people learn that the Republican Party is just a party of Nazis, racists, Klansmen, economic frauds, and poseurs?
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I would agree almost 100% if the word 'just' had not been in the sentence.

There are good people in the Republican party. They have their own convictions and their own philosophy. They differ from liberals and that is OK. It doesn't mean they are all bad. It's remarkable how often people misquote that now famous line about Trump voters being deplorable. Not all are deplorable. Some simply made a difficult choice between two bad choices, neither one of which promised to be very good for our nation.

The deplorables have sullied the rep of the Republican party, and that hurts our nation. The two party system is bad enough in that they often differ very little and do not always serve We, The People; but a one party system would be worse, no matter which party.

The Republican Party is a party of Nazis, racists, Klansmen, economic frauds, and poseurs; and it is also a party of people who want the best for America, want America to be great. The main difference is that we liberals mostly disagree on what makes America great.

And I find it highly ironic that some Republicans want to end socialist government assistance programs in order to reduce spending and taxes, but if they were to really achieve what they fight for it would ruin our economy and possibly cause a revolt. Our economy depends in no small part on the consumerism of people on the dole, and government bureaucrats who make a living dishing it out. We would crash without all that consumer spending. The dole is the only thing that keeps the masses placated enough not to rise up in numbers against the system. Have we learned nothing from the French Revolution? Have we even heard of it.... Ahh, what's the use.

Man, do we ever need better education. And education should be focusing on how propaganda works. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, I must be an Anerican.
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello Frank,



I completely disagree.

There was a time when I would have agreed with this, but I have learned more and grown more since then. Even though I still disagree with most conservative positions, I recognize their value to this country. We need all views to be great. Diversity of views is vital to our nation. It is the only way we can know right from wrong. This is the wisdom of our forefathers when they ensured our freedom of speech.

It's the old adage: 'I disagree with what you say, but I will defend your right to say it to the death.'

Conservative views do disgust me. Some of the selfishness and greed is appalling. And the ridiculous circular reasoning is so transparent you can see right through it. To me, it is amazing anybody falls for it. And there is so much pure hatred at the heart of it. It's like a collection of people who have never really accepted that we need to pay for our government whether we agree with everything it does or not. As if they simply refuse to see basic logic.

But we still need them. Half the country is conservative. Conservatives contribute so much to this nation we'd be devastated without them. And I'm not just talking about their views. The work they do is needed. We simply have to have them. Half of my family would be gone if all conservatives left. Many families have views on both sides. Having all the conservatives leave is a very shallow thought - not a well considered view at all.

We liberals need them to have something to compare our own views to! How else would we know we are correct about everything? :wink3:
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ONLY IF THEY BASE THEIR IDEAS ON FACTS


this current republican party is nothing but lies
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello and welcome The Derp,

Thanks for chiming in with your view. I hope you hang around for much more and continue to contribute to the conversation.



I would agree almost 100% if the word 'just' had not been in the sentence.

There are good people in the Republican party. They have their own convictions and their own philosophy. They differ from liberals and that is OK. It doesn't mean they are all bad. It's remarkable how often people misquote that now famous line about Trump voters being deplorable. Not all are deplorable. Some simply made a difficult choice between two bad choices, neither one of which promised to be very good for our nation.

The deplorables have sullied the rep of the Republican party, and that hurts our nation. The two party system is bad enough in that they often differ very little and do not always serve We, The People; but a one party system would be worse, no matter which party.

The Republican Party is a party of Nazis, racists, Klansmen, economic frauds, and poseurs; and it is also a party of people who want the best for America, want America to be great. The main difference is that we liberals mostly disagree on what makes America great.

And I find it highly ironic that some Republicans want to end socialist government assistance programs in order to reduce spending and taxes, but if they were to really achieve what they fight for it would ruin our economy and possibly cause a revolt. Our economy depends in no small part on the consumerism of people on the dole, and government bureaucrats who make a living dishing it out. We would crash without all that consumer spending. The dole is the only thing that keeps the masses placated enough not to rise up in numbers against the system. Have we learned nothing from the French Revolution? Have we even heard of it.... Ahh, what's the use.

Man, do we ever need better education. And education should be focusing on how propaganda works. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, I must be an Anerican.
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I'm sorry, but "good people" do not support racism PERIOD!

The republican party is rooted in racism. Nothing good or compromising about that.
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello and welcome The Derp,

Thanks for chiming in with your view. I hope you hang around for much more and continue to contribute to the conversation.



I would agree almost 100% if the word 'just' had not been in the sentence.

There are good people in the Republican party. They have their own convictions and their own philosophy. They differ from liberals and that is OK. It doesn't mean they are all bad. It's remarkable how often people misquote that now famous line about Trump voters being deplorable. Not all are deplorable. Some simply made a difficult choice between two bad choices, neither one of which promised to be very good for our nation.

The deplorables have sullied the rep of the Republican party, and that hurts our nation. The two party system is bad enough in that they often differ very little and do not always serve We, The People; but a one party system would be worse, no matter which party.

The Republican Party is a party of Nazis, racists, Klansmen, economic frauds, and poseurs; and it is also a party of people who want the best for America, want America to be great. The main difference is that we liberals mostly disagree on what makes America great.

And I find it highly ironic that some Republicans want to end socialist government assistance programs in order to reduce spending and taxes, but if they were to really achieve what they fight for it would ruin our economy and possibly cause a revolt. Our economy depends in no small part on the consumerism of people on the dole, and government bureaucrats who make a living dishing it out. We would crash without all that consumer spending. The dole is the only thing that keeps the masses placated enough not to rise up in numbers against the system. Have we learned nothing from the French Revolution? Have we even heard of it.... Ahh, what's the use.

Man, do we ever need better education. And education should be focusing on how propaganda works. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, I must be an Anerican.
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See, I completely disagree. The only thing that motivated Cosnervatives to vote for Trump was their racism, homophobia, and misogyny. All things that make someone deplorable. There is no "good" or "justifiable" reason for voting for Trump in my view; he made his hatred and authoritarianism apparent to the public. Not releasing his tax returns should have given everyone insight into how broke he really, truly is; thus negating the facade that he's a successful businessman.

There was nothing Trump offered during the campaign that was sincere or benevolent. The man is a fascist and anyone -anyone- who supported him didn't do so out of "economic anxiety" or for any reason other than racism/misogyny/bigotry or because they're fascists themselves.

And the Republican Party has always been like this; it's just recently that they've been overt. But their policies and beliefs have always been the shitty, racist, resentful, politics of hate since Goldwater. Nothing in the GOp has changed since then. The party platform has remained unchanged since 1980 except for the Russia stuff that Trump had changed in 2016.
 
TTQ64 said:
This is not my original thread title. Not sure who's playing games at the Mod level, but I assure you, this isn't what I posted.

Michigan Republicans are pushing a new, Donald Trump-inspired bill that would require Medicaid recipients in the state’s mostly black cities to work to keep their health benefits, but exempt some of the state’s rural white residents from the same requirement.

But as expected, the racist white men on this board are defending this.

I guess they feel there are no sick and disabled people in the Black cities.
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And yet; you still refuse to recognize the information given to you, that refutes your lie.

Your life must really suck. :palm:
 
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