Yet ANOTHER Bogus "Terrorist" Plot

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By the now, it's maddeningly familiar. A scary terrorist plot is announced. Then it's revealed that the suspects are a hapless bunch of ne'er-do-wells or run-of-the-mill thugs without the slightest connection to any terrorists at all, never mind to Al Qaeda. Finally, the last piece of the puzzle: the entire plot is revealed to have been cooked up by a scummy government agent-provocateur.

I've seen this movie before.

In this case, the alleged perps -- Onta Williams, James Cromitie, David Williams, and Laguerre Payen -- were losers, ex-cons, drug addicts. Al Qaeda they're not. Without the assistance of the agent who entrapped them, they would never have dreamed of committing political violence, nor would they have had the slightest idea about where to acquire plastic explosives or a Stinger missile. That didn't stop prosecutors from acting as if they'd captured Osama bin Laden himself. Noted the Los Angeles Times:

Prosecutors called it the latest in a string of homegrown terrorism plots hatched after Sept. 11.

"It's hard to envision a more chilling plot," Assistant U.S. Atty. Eric Snyder said in court Thursday. He described all four suspects as "eager to bring death to Jews."

Actually, it's hard to imagine a stupider, less competent, and less important plot. The four losers were ensnared by a creepy FBI agent who hung around the mosque in upstate New York until he found what he was looking for. Here's the New York Times account:

Salahuddin Mustafa Muhammad, the imam at the mosque where the authorities say the confidential informant first encountered the men, said none of the men were active in the mosque. ...

Mr. Cromitie was there last June, and he met a stranger.

He had no way of knowing that the stranger's path to the mosque began in 2002, when he was arrested on federal charges of identity theft. He was sentenced to five years' probation, and became a confidential informant for the F.B.I. He began showing up at the mosque in Newburgh around 2007, Mr. Muhammad said.

The stranger's behavior aroused the imam's suspicions. He invited other worshipers to meals, and spoke of violence and jihad, so the imam said he steered clear of him.

"There was just something fishy about him," Mr. Muhammad said. Members "believed he was a government agent."

Mr. Muhammad said members of his congregation told him the man he believed was the informant offered at least one of them a substantial amount of money to join his "team."

So a creepy thug buttonholes people at a mosque, foaming at the mouth about violence and jihad? This is law enforcement? Just imagine if someone did this at a local church, or some synagogue. And the imam says the people "believed he was a government agent."

Preying on these losers, none of whom were apparently actual Muslims, the "confidential informant" orchestrated the acquisition of a disabled Stinger missile to shoot down military planes and cooked up a wild scheme about attacking a Jewish center in the Bronx.

It gets even more pathetic:

The only one of the four suspects who appears to have aroused any suspicion was Payen, a Haitian native who attended the Newburgh mosque. Assistant imam Hamid Rashada said his dishevelment and odd behavior disturbed some members, said the assistant imam, Hamid Rashada.

When Payen appeared in court, defense attorney Marilyn Reader described him as "intellectually challenged" and on medication for schizophrenia. The Associated Press said that when he was asked if he understood the proceedings, Payen replied: "Sort of."

Despite the pompous statements from Mayor Bloomberg of New York and other politicians, including Representative Peter King, the whole story is bogus. The four losers may have been inclined to violence, and they may have harbored a virulent strain of anti-Semitism. But it seems that the informant whipped up their violent tendencies and their hatred of Jews, cooked up the plot, incited them, arranged their purchase of weapons, and then had them busted. To ensure that it made headlines, the creepy informant claimed to be representing a Pakistani extremist group, Jaish-e Muhammad, a bona fide terrorist organization. He wasn't, of course.

It is disgusting and outrageous that the FBI is sending provocateurs into mosques.

The headlines reinforce the very fear that Dick Cheney is trying to stir up. The story strengthens the narrative that the "homeland" is under attack. It's not. As I've written repeatedly, since 9/11 not a single American has even been punched in the nose by an angry Muslim, as far as I can tell. Plot after plot -- the destruction of the Brooklyn Bridge! bombing the New York Subways! taking down the Sears Tower! bombing the Prudential building in Newark! -- proved to be utter nonsense.
http://www.thenation.com/blogs/dreyfuss/437864/yet_another_bogus_terror_plot
 
By the now, it's maddeningly familiar. A scary terrorist plot is announced. Then it's revealed that the suspects are a hapless bunch of ne'er-do-wells or run-of-the-mill thugs without the slightest connection to any terrorists at all, never mind to Al Qaeda. Finally, the last piece of the puzzle: the entire plot is revealed to have been cooked up by a scummy government agent-provocateur.

I've seen this movie before.

In this case, the alleged perps -- Onta Williams, James Cromitie, David Williams, and Laguerre Payen -- were losers, ex-cons, drug addicts. Al Qaeda they're not. Without the assistance of the agent who entrapped them, they would never have dreamed of committing political violence, nor would they have had the slightest idea about where to acquire plastic explosives or a Stinger missile. That didn't stop prosecutors from acting as if they'd captured Osama bin Laden himself. Noted the Los Angeles Times:

Prosecutors called it the latest in a string of homegrown terrorism plots hatched after Sept. 11.

"It's hard to envision a more chilling plot," Assistant U.S. Atty. Eric Snyder said in court Thursday. He described all four suspects as "eager to bring death to Jews."

Actually, it's hard to imagine a stupider, less competent, and less important plot. The four losers were ensnared by a creepy FBI agent who hung around the mosque in upstate New York until he found what he was looking for. Here's the New York Times account:

Salahuddin Mustafa Muhammad, the imam at the mosque where the authorities say the confidential informant first encountered the men, said none of the men were active in the mosque. ...

Mr. Cromitie was there last June, and he met a stranger.

He had no way of knowing that the stranger's path to the mosque began in 2002, when he was arrested on federal charges of identity theft. He was sentenced to five years' probation, and became a confidential informant for the F.B.I. He began showing up at the mosque in Newburgh around 2007, Mr. Muhammad said.

The stranger's behavior aroused the imam's suspicions. He invited other worshipers to meals, and spoke of violence and jihad, so the imam said he steered clear of him.

"There was just something fishy about him," Mr. Muhammad said. Members "believed he was a government agent."

Mr. Muhammad said members of his congregation told him the man he believed was the informant offered at least one of them a substantial amount of money to join his "team."

So a creepy thug buttonholes people at a mosque, foaming at the mouth about violence and jihad? This is law enforcement? Just imagine if someone did this at a local church, or some synagogue. And the imam says the people "believed he was a government agent."

Preying on these losers, none of whom were apparently actual Muslims, the "confidential informant" orchestrated the acquisition of a disabled Stinger missile to shoot down military planes and cooked up a wild scheme about attacking a Jewish center in the Bronx.

It gets even more pathetic:

The only one of the four suspects who appears to have aroused any suspicion was Payen, a Haitian native who attended the Newburgh mosque. Assistant imam Hamid Rashada said his dishevelment and odd behavior disturbed some members, said the assistant imam, Hamid Rashada.

When Payen appeared in court, defense attorney Marilyn Reader described him as "intellectually challenged" and on medication for schizophrenia. The Associated Press said that when he was asked if he understood the proceedings, Payen replied: "Sort of."

Despite the pompous statements from Mayor Bloomberg of New York and other politicians, including Representative Peter King, the whole story is bogus. The four losers may have been inclined to violence, and they may have harbored a virulent strain of anti-Semitism. But it seems that the informant whipped up their violent tendencies and their hatred of Jews, cooked up the plot, incited them, arranged their purchase of weapons, and then had them busted. To ensure that it made headlines, the creepy informant claimed to be representing a Pakistani extremist group, Jaish-e Muhammad, a bona fide terrorist organization. He wasn't, of course.

It is disgusting and outrageous that the FBI is sending provocateurs into mosques.

The headlines reinforce the very fear that Dick Cheney is trying to stir up. The story strengthens the narrative that the "homeland" is under attack. It's not. As I've written repeatedly, since 9/11 not a single American has even been punched in the nose by an angry Muslim, as far as I can tell. Plot after plot -- the destruction of the Brooklyn Bridge! bombing the New York Subways! taking down the Sears Tower! bombing the Prudential building in Newark! -- proved to be utter nonsense.
http://www.thenation.com/blogs/dreyfuss/437864/yet_another_bogus_terror_plot

You left out that they were Black, or looked like they were Black, or were thought to be Black, etc, etc. :gives:
 
I reiterate:

What's your moms name; because I just may have fucked her, but I can't remember if she was a pea-brain or not??

In other words you're just a dumb pea-brained motherfucker who has nothing of relevance to add to any conversation .. just as I've said many times.

I heard your corny silliness the first time and was neither impressed nor insulted, nor am I now.

Say it again .. see if it has any effect or if it detracts from you being too ignorant to back up your own comments this time.
 
In other words you're just a dumb pea-brained motherfucker who has nothing of relevance to add to any conversation .. just as I've said many times.

I heard your corny silliness the first time and was neither impressed nor insulted, nor am I now.

Say it again .. see if it has any effect or if it detracts from you being too ignorant to back up your own comments this time.

I'm serious!!
Give me a clue to who your mom is and that way I can try to remember if I fucked her or not, besides her being pea-brained.
I mean, you are the one that brought it up.

Is she a screamer?
Does she give good head?
Does she spit or swallow?
Was I her "back door man"?

C'mon son, I mean it could be probable; give me a clue, to help me remember who she was.
 
I'm serious!!
Give me a clue to who your mom is and that way I can try to remember if I fucked her or not, besides her being pea-brained.
I mean, you are the one that brought it up.

Is she a screamer?
Does she give good head?
Does she spit or swallow?
Was I her "back door man"?

C'mon son, I mean it could be probable; give me a clue, to help me remember who she was.

Didn't work .. try again pea-brained motherfucker. :)

Try peppering it with some really racist stuff .. maybe that will work.
 
Since when is someone fucking your mom, racist??

Who said it was?

You're a fuckwad racist AND a really dumb pea-brained motherfucker .. you know it and so do I.

Stop being a pussy.

Your only reason for being here is to attempt insult. You don't have the intelligence for serious debate. Your so-called insults are lame as doo-doo.

Go for the jugular stop being a pussy .. say what you really want to say.
 
Who said it was?

You're a fuckwad racist AND a really dumb pea-brained motherfucker .. you know it and so do I.

Stop being a pussy.

Your only reason for being here is to attempt insult. You don't have the intelligence for serious debate. Your so-called insults are lame as doo-doo.

Go for the jugular stop being a pussy .. say what you really want to say.

You really shoudn't bring up things, if they make you uncomfortable.

Tell you what, let's start off with easy questions; in an attempt to help me remember if I fucked her or not.

Is she tall (5 foot plus) or short (under 5 foot)??

Answer the question and don't be a pussy.
 
Ah, yes.

The old 'terror plot foiled' plan again. The more you read about these chaps intending to blow up a synagogue before driving up the road to shoot down a plane with a stinger missile the more it seems utterly laughable.

I'm assuming the UK intelligence services are operating to the same template.

Just before Easter it was announced that a "major terror plot" had been foiled, leading to the very public arrest of 12 Asian gentlemen by gun-toting men-in-black (and heroic camera crews). The Prime Minister himself was moved to say "We are dealing with a very big terrorist plot … there were a number of people who are suspected of it who have been arrested. That police operation was successful." It was suggested by "Whitehall sources" that police feared a planned attack on the Easter Weekend.

As you can imagine, the public were most cheered by this dramatic blow against those shadowy types who "hate our freedom".

That was on April 8th.

By April 22nd all 12 arrested had been released without charge.

Anyway, three cheers for the security services - keeping us all safe in a dangerous world.
 
Ah, yes.

The old 'terror plot foiled' plan again. The more you read about these chaps intending to blow up a synagogue before driving up the road to shoot down a plane with a stinger missile the more it seems utterly laughable.

I'm assuming the UK intelligence services are operating to the same template.

Just before Easter it was announced that a "major terror plot" had been foiled, leading to the very public arrest of 12 Asian gentlemen by gun-toting men-in-black (and heroic camera crews). The Prime Minister himself was moved to say "We are dealing with a very big terrorist plot … there were a number of people who are suspected of it who have been arrested. That police operation was successful." It was suggested by "Whitehall sources" that police feared a planned attack on the Easter Weekend.

As you can imagine, the public were most cheered by this dramatic blow against those shadowy types who "hate our freedom".

That was on April 8th.

By April 22nd all 12 arrested had been released without charge.

Anyway, three cheers for the security services - keeping us all safe in a dangerous world.

Would you feel as "grateful", if they had ignored something and an event occured??
 
You really shoudn't bring up things, if they make you uncomfortable.

Tell you what, let's start off with easy questions; in an attempt to help me remember if I fucked her or not.

Is she tall (5 foot plus) or short (under 5 foot)??

Answer the question and don't be a pussy.

Who's uncomfortable.

I'm enjoying this shit.

Getting to play with a pea-brained motherfucker while I work is a blessing.

Why would you need someone to tell you who you've supposedly fucked?

What manner of scum requires that?
 
Ah, yes.

The old 'terror plot foiled' plan again. The more you read about these chaps intending to blow up a synagogue before driving up the road to shoot down a plane with a stinger missile the more it seems utterly laughable.

I'm assuming the UK intelligence services are operating to the same template.

Just before Easter it was announced that a "major terror plot" had been foiled, leading to the very public arrest of 12 Asian gentlemen by gun-toting men-in-black (and heroic camera crews). The Prime Minister himself was moved to say "We are dealing with a very big terrorist plot … there were a number of people who are suspected of it who have been arrested. That police operation was successful." It was suggested by "Whitehall sources" that police feared a planned attack on the Easter Weekend.

As you can imagine, the public were most cheered by this dramatic blow against those shadowy types who "hate our freedom".

That was on April 8th.

By April 22nd all 12 arrested had been released without charge.

Anyway, three cheers for the security services - keeping us all safe in a dangerous world.

This so-called plot smelled bogus from the very moment they announced it.
 
Who's uncomfortable.

I'm enjoying this shit.

Getting to play with a pea-brained motherfucker while I work is a blessing.

Why would you need someone to tell you who you've supposedly fucked?

What manner of scum requires that?

Now-now son; don't get all upset.
You know it's not good, for your health.

There was a time, in my past, when I did sow many a wild oat and it is possible that I did fuck your mom; but I think it's terrible that you refer to her as a pea-brain.

Sorry; but I really do have to get some sleep.
Have a good day, son.
 
Now-now son; don't get all upset.
You know it's not good, for your health.

There was a time, in my past, when I did sow many a wild oat and it is possible that I did fuck your mom; but I think it's terrible that you refer to her as a pea-brain.

Sorry; but I really do have to get some sleep.
Have a good day, son.

Yeah boy you go get some sleep.

People are counting on having your tasty egg McMuffin as they travel to work.

After you get done cleaning the grease pit, go buy yourself a book .. Insults for Dummies.
 
You really shoudn't bring up things, if they make you uncomfortable.

Tell you what, let's start off with easy questions; in an attempt to help me remember if I fucked her or not.

Is she tall (5 foot plus) or short (under 5 foot)??

Answer the question and don't be a pussy.
I always suspected that there was a serious problem with you, and now I have proof. A short gal is under 5'-5". :pke:
 
anybody that can consider this episode a serious risk to national security should just pack their bags and move to Europe already. These idiots couldn't even tell the difference between real and fake explosives.
 
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