Yet ANOTHER lunatic vote from Ron Paul against freedom

Damocles said:
The situation in Burma nearly makes me physically ill when I think on it. I would have voted for the measure. There is nothing in the constitution against it and we can speak on freedoms both here and at home. There is nothing to keep us from doing both.

And BTW, I was clearly wrong on my "guarantee" of why he voted against it.
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As I read through the thread, your words were exactly what I was going to say. It costs us NOTHING to speak about freedom anywhere, everywhere, and at any time.

I suspect his vote had less to do with him being a libertarian and more to do with him being a cantankeroius old man. He really enjoys his moniker of Dr. No.
 
TheDanold said:
Blackascoal lied, the legislation was not merely expressing an opinion, here is Ron Paul's statement:

Madame Speaker, I rise in opposition to this legislation not because I do not sympathize with the plight of the oppressed people of Burma , particularly as demonstrated by the continued confinement of Aung San Suu Kyi. Any time a government represses its citizenry it is reprehensible. My objection to this legislation is twofold. First, the legislation calls on the United Nations Security Council to “take appropriate action” with regard to Burma and its internal conditions. This sounds like an open door for an outside military intervention under the auspices of the United Nations, which is something I do not support.

http://www.house.gov/paul/congrec/congrec2007/cr100207h.htm
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POINT OUT THE LIE

This past Tuesday, Paul voted against congressional resolution H Con Res 200, "Expressing the Sense of Congress Regarding the Immediate and Unconditional Release of Daw Aung San Suu Kyi" .. a courageous Burmese woman awarded the Nobel Peace Prize in 1991 for her non-violent struggle against her country's brutal military dictatorship. She has been jailed by the Burmese government in their crackdown against democracy.
 
TheDanold said:
What if the UN decided to intervene, voicing support for them to "take appropriate action" (vague) basically leaves the nation's support for supporting another war on the mushy definition of "appropriate".
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The UN did not ask for or lead to war in Iraq. That was America's doing, specifically Bush and his neocon horde and peopple who voted for him .. like you.

The UN did not ask for war in North Korea or Iran .. that was and is the aim of America, specifically Bush and his neocon horde and people who support him .. like you. It took other nations to bring civility to the North Korea talks and that civility and sanity solved the situation in about 5 minutes.

NOW all of a sudden a conservative .. like you .. is worried about UN actions.
 
blackascoal said:
POINT OUT THE LIE

This past Tuesday, Paul voted against congressional resolution H Con Res 200, "Expressing the Sense of Congress Regarding the Immediate and Unconditional Release of Daw Aung San Suu Kyi" .. a courageous Burmese woman awarded the Nobel Peace Prize in 1991 for her non-violent struggle against her country's brutal military dictatorship. She has been jailed by the Burmese government in their crackdown against democracy.
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He is quoting part of the bill that says "appropriate action", that vague wording CAN mean military action. You lied because you omitted that part and you omit it again in your retort.
 
Only a Tool would believe it's a function of Govt to spend time to "honor" someone. How about use that time to balance the budget or something useful? Demagoguery, eaten up by the masses.
 
TheDanold said:
He is quoting part of the bill that says "appropriate action", that vague wording CAN mean military action. You lied because you omitted that part and you omit it again in your retort.
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It meant it whenever we were talking about Iran, Dano. Whenever we're talking about Ron Paul it suddenly doesn't.
 
TheDanold said:
He is quoting part of the bill that says "appropriate action", that vague wording CAN mean military action. You lied because you omitted that part and you omit it again in your retort.
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An absolutely idiotic response.

"Appropriate action" COULD mean sanctions, which is the usual UN response and there is nothing in the bill calling for military action.

I posted the link to the bill, thus your silly-ass accusations of lying are just downright stupid, as is your leap to miltary action.

The fact that you're a conservative who's supported Bush makes your comment all the more nth degree idiotic.
 
blackascoal said:
An absolutely idiotic response.

"Appropriate action" COULD mean sanctions, which is the usual UN response and there is nothing in the bill calling for military action.

I posted the link to the bill, thus your silly-ass accusations of lying are just downright stupid, as is your leap to miltary action.

The fact that you're a conservative who's supported Bush makes your comment all the more nth degree idiotic.
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Dano calls everyone a liar. If you disagree with Dano, you are a "liar", and he's caught you "lying".
 
Watermark said:
It meant it whenever we were talking about Iran, Dano. Whenever we're talking about Ron Paul it suddenly doesn't.
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Excellent point. Lefties imagine the worst on political spanking of Iran and imagine the best on political spanking of Burma.
 
Obfuscate said:
Only a Tool would believe it's a function of Govt to spend time to "honor" someone. How about use that time to balance the budget or something useful? Demagoguery, eaten up by the masses.
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Why would we have the Congressional Medal of Honor, then? (It's been around a very, very long time folks.)

I agree, it shouldn't be. But it certainly isn't unconstitutional to do so, nor does it really take away from any other important legislation. Those "There are starving people" type of arguments are an attempt to control and limit conversation. Thankfully humans are capable of more complex thought and can handle talking about separate issues at the same time.
 
Obfuscate said:
Only a Tool would believe it's a function of Govt to spend time to "honor" someone. How about use that time to balance the budget or something useful? Demagoguery, eaten up by the masses.
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That's interesting because Mr. Paul certainly found both time and taxpayer money to honor art students in his district. Is that in the Constitution?

We should spend time honoring students who paint pretty pictures, but not to honor America's symbol of freedom, nor the struggle for freedom in other countries .. which has a blowback effect for American security and stature?

That's an interesting, albeit infantile, understanding of politics.
 
This from the biggest liar..............

Darla said:
Dano calls everyone a liar. If you disagree with Dano, you are a "liar", and he's caught you "lying".
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on the board who also calls everyone else a liar...if they disagree with Ms.Pink Prom Queen!...I thought you said you were going for a long lunch with the boss...another lie maybe?:rolleyes:
 
blackascoal said:
That's interesting because Mr. Paul certainly found both time and taxpayer money to honor art students in his district. Is that in the Constitution?

We should spend time honoring students who paint pretty pictures, but not to honor America's symbol of freedom, nor the struggle for freedom in other countries .. which has a blowback effect for American security and stature?

That's an interesting, albeit infantile, understanding of politics.
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Hahha.

They probably didn't know he found time to honor art students in his district.
 
blackascoal said:
That's interesting because Mr. Paul certainly found both time and taxpayer money to honor art students in his district. Is that in the Constitution?

We should spend time honoring students who paint pretty pictures, but not to honor America's symbol of freedom, nor the struggle for freedom in other countries .. which has a blowback effect for American security and stature?

That's an interesting, albeit infantile, understanding of politics.
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Shouldn't honor either. My point wasn't to stick up for Paul it was a point about things like all these examples being an exteme waste of time. I also said nothing about the constitutionality of it. Apparently your like every other wank on political boards that assumes the others position and attacks the assumption rather than the actual quote.

I don't believe it is a function of Government please explain why it's important to honer this or that as you suggested in your initial post.
 
Darla said:
Hahha.

They probably didn't know he found time to honor art students in his district.
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From the floor of the House, or personally?

He "Hosted" a district-wide contest...

http://www.house.gov/paul/press/press2000/pr042500.htm

Is that the same thing as a Congressional vote, or was it just disingenuousness.

Personally hosting an art contest is not the same thing as honoring somebody from the floor of the House. It is very consistent with his personal views on government, and not a "hypocritcal move" as suggested by BAC.

BAC clearly has RPDS (Ron Paul Derangement Syndrome). No matter what he does BAC will misrepresent it in the worst possible light.

I disagree with his vote here, but that doesn't mean I can't see where he was going with his logic.
 
blackascoal said:
That's interesting because Mr. Paul certainly found both time and taxpayer money to honor art students in his district. Is that in the Constitution?

We should spend time honoring students who paint pretty pictures, but not to honor America's symbol of freedom, nor the struggle for freedom in other countries .. which has a blowback effect for American security and stature?

That's an interesting, albeit infantile, understanding of politics.
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I smell some BS.

1. You said at the onset that it would have cost the taxpayers nothing for him to pass the bill you wanted him to. Now when it is art students, all of a sudden it involves taxpayer money ?

2. You were talking about Ron Paul not PASSING A GOVERNMENT BILL to honor Rosa Parks. Well did he PASS A GOVERNMENT BILL to honor these art students or did he just privately attend a function to honor them?

You see, you are a dishonest motherfucker. There are plenty of things all of us believe in doing, but there is a giant difference in doing those things via government.

Double deceit, don't trust this guy.
 
Damocles said:
From the floor of the House, or personally?

He "Hosted" a district-wide contest...

http://www.house.gov/paul/press/press2000/pr042500.htm

Is that the same thing as a Congressional vote, or was it just disingenuousness.

Personally hosting an art contest is not the same thing as honoring somebody from the floor of the House. It is very consistent with his personal views on government, and not a "hypocritcal move" as suggested by BAC.

BAC clearly has RPDS (Ron Paul Derangement Syndrome). No matter what he does BAC will misrepresent it in the worst possible light.

I disagree with his vote here, but that doesn't mean I can't see where he was going with his logic.
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You beat me to it by 2 minutes. BAC caught in yet another lie.
 
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