Young Americans Consider GOP ‘The Dumb Party,’ Says Conservative Author

[ThatOwlWoman]

Next time you start in on, "Your side does it more" you should understand that first it is still a confession, and secondly, you only think "they do it more" because often you agree with the fear mongering on your own side (not you personally, just "you" or "we" as a whole). It is something I try to be mindful of when defending somebody on a subject I agree with them on... reminding myself to "use your brain all the time," as we tend to shut down the careful filter we might set up, say here or while watching a specific news outlet that may disagree with you editorially, when we tune in to those sources that tend to agree editorially. We then do not really see, for example, that fear mongering ad with grandma getting tossed off a cliff by a lookalike of the "bad guys" when we've rested that filter... Just because somebody agrees with your position doesn't mean they aren't "exaggerating" (read lying) to attempt to scare you into action (again not you personally, the royal "we" type of you).

I am not a stupid person, nor was I brought up in a family that advocated marching in lockstep with what we were told. Well, other than Mom who was probably the most devout Xtian -- in practice -- that I have ever known. BTW, that was not a slam, but a compliment.

At any rate we were taught by our horrid liberal school system, plus the angst and turmoil of the 60s, to question authority. I have tried to stay true to that throughout my life. This is why my post included the fact that the Left engages in fear-mongering just as the Right does. The difference that I can see is this. I'm aware of the propaganda and how it is trying to influence me. I will not march in lockstep with any political party, at least I try not to, no matter what they promise, for that reason.

From what I can see, though, of the RWers here and on other political boards and on other social media sites -- they don't seem to have the capacity to question what they're fed. They can only attack what is "other" -- the Left.

As a member of the Right side of the rainbow, maybe you could spend more time here offering a more nuanced and less belligerent POV of why you guys are on the Right? You'll probably get called a RINO and worse, but I promise you that at least a few of us here on the Left will listen and respond in a civil fashion.

 

[PostmodernProphet]

GDP per person shows how much money people are making. In third world countries, people don't make much.

Name the five best countries to live in.

the US and the next four most like it......

 

[PostmodernProphet]

Yes, I recently graduated college. I never met anyone as dumb as the people in the video. I'm sure they exist, but they're not common.

its all relative......I consider you as dumb as the people in the video........

 

[StoneByStone]

the US and the next four most like it......

Can you name them?

 

[StoneByStone]

its all relative......I consider you as dumb as the people in the video........

You're only saying that because I kicked your ass here so many times. It's ok, one day you'll move out of your mom's basement and you'll be less angry.

 

[Into the Night]

Revised history

Inversion fallacy. It is YOU that is revising history.

 

[Into the Night]

While I'd love to say you are right, it isn't true.

It is true.

Fascistic economic policy was to direct privately owned businesses through a conglomeration that they called cartels that were made up both of bureaucrats and the leaders of the industries that were being controlled by the cartel.

That's right. They didn't take the companies directly, they took them by managing them. That's what fascism is.

The best example of this today in the United States would be The Affordable Care Act, which left the insurance providers in the hands of private companies but told them exactly what they could sell, how they could sell it, to whom they had to sell it, and in some cases how much it would cost.

You are correct. That is also an example of fascism.

Anyway, while fascism controlled the companies, the government didn't own it and they were not nationalized in the sense that you state here.

They are effectively nationalized. The companies so controlled have no say in how they can operate. The only difference is who owns the title deed.

 

[PostmodernProphet]

Can you name them?

well, I've never lived anywhere else.......I've heard Australia is nice.........Canada would be fine if you stay away from Quebec and Toronto....

 

[PostmodernProphet]

You're only saying that because I kicked your ass here so many times. It's ok, one day you'll move out of your mom's basement and you'll be less angry.

dude, you're overreaching again.....I have children much older than you who don't live in my basement........

 

[StoneByStone]

well, I've never lived anywhere else.......I've heard Australia is nice.........Canada would be fine if you stay away from Quebec and Toronto....

So America, Australia, and Canada. Australia and Canada are liberal and America is left-leaning.
Any country with a good living standard is going to be liberal or at least left-leaning.

 

[PostmodernProphet]

So America, Australia, and Canada. Australia and Canada are liberal and America is left-leaning.

dude, if you were any more shallow your feet wouldn't be wet........there are cunts like you in Canada and Australia just as there are here.......but if your really love liberalism you should move somewhere like Venezuela or Cuba......you are young, embrace your lib'rul future........

Any country with a good living standard is going to be liberal or at least left-leaning.

any country with a good living standard is going to have people like you trying to destroy it........

 

[StoneByStone]

dude, if you were any more shallow your feet wouldn't be wet........

Sorry the truth made you angry.
Why don't you go visit one of those conservative countries you love so much? You might like Saudi Arabia.

 

[PostmodernProphet]

Sorry the truth made you angry.

I admit it.......people who speak from ignorance do make me angry........check back with me in about twenty years when you've had a bit of experience with the real world........

 

[Gonzomin]

Young people have ears. They can hear Trump stumbling along with his 5th-grade vocabulary. They can hear Trump showing absolute ignorance of the constitution and no respect for the law. Trump rules the gutless Red party. They are shocked as any fair observer would be by his actions such as sucking up to Putin. They also can see Trump works for the plutocrats.
Young people also see their generation is being looted by colleges who are saddling young people with an educational mortgage.

 

[Damocles]

It is true.

That's right. They didn't take the companies directly, they took them by managing them. That's what fascism is.

However, nationalizing the companies is taking the companies directly. Your insistence that happened is where you fail to relate with reality.

You are correct. That is also an example of fascism.

They are effectively nationalized. The companies so controlled have no say in how they can operate. The only difference is who owns the title deed.

Had you said "effectively" before, and actually defined it we would not be here. What you said was wrong, what I said was correct and this post of yours simply recognizes that. Simply because they call themselves socialists doesn't make them socialists any more than East Germany calling themselves the "German Democratic Republic" made them Democratic.

 

[Into the Night]

However, nationalizing the companies is taking the companies directly.

It is also taking the companies operations.

Your insistence that happened is where you fail to relate with reality.

It happened. Define 'reality'. Bet you can't.

Had you said "effectively" before, and actually defined it we would not be here.

Nah. I think we would. You are still trying to toss this argument aside as well.

What you said was wrong, what I said was correct and this post of yours simply recognizes that.

It is not wrong.

Simply because they call themselves socialists doesn't make them socialists any more than East Germany calling themselves the "German Democratic Republic" made them Democratic.

They are socialist. Fascism is socialism. So is communism. Fascism is just a step on the road to communism. You really should read the Communist Manifesto. You can find it here.

 

[Damocles]

It is also taking the companies operations.

It happened. Define 'reality'. Bet you can't.

Definition of reality: The world or the state of things as they actually exist, as opposed to an idealistic or notional idea of them. Instead you keep repeating your notional idea, pretend it is fact, fail to respond to reality and then march around the people sitting in the leftover chairs when the music stops and pretend it means you won.

Nah. I think we would. You are still trying to toss this argument aside as well.

It is not wrong.

They are socialist. Fascism is socialism. So is communism. Fascism is just a step on the road to communism. You really should read the Communist Manifesto. You can find it here.

I've read the communism manifesto, fascism is not communism. At this point speaking with you is useless. I don't care that you refuse to recognize facts, literally I do not care.

Fascism as an economy does not give ownership of everything to the government, so it is not communism or socialism. It really is that simple.

 

[Gonzomin]

It is also taking the companies operations.

It happened. Define 'reality'. Bet you can't.

Nah. I think we would. You are still trying to toss this argument aside as well.

It is not wrong.

They are socialist. Fascism is socialism. So is communism. Fascism is just a step on the road to communism. You really should read the Communist Manifesto. You can find it here.

You should actually read about socialism fascism and communism. You are obviously ignorant of them.

 

[StoneByStone]

You should actually read about socialism fascism and communism. You are obviously ignorant of them.

This is why I try not to use these words anymore. So many people just make up their own definitions, it's gotten to the point where they mean nothing.

 

[gemini104104]

The antigovernment conspiring GOP has become America's sh!t party as the quality that other foreign and domestic enemies would prefer as in the type of sh!t they can relate to.