meme
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Fema doesn't have anything to do with our Security..I don't give a shit about what Bush did with Fema..we are talking about our HOMELAND Security..
"You're Doing a Heck of a Job Janet"
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Fema doesn't have anything to do with our Security..I don't give a shit about what Bush did with Fema..we are talking about our HOMELAND Security..
Her job is to make that particular bureaucracy run well, and to ensure that information gets to people in the field.
This isn't even "connecting the dots" with multiple different agencies who don't talk to each other. It isn't like that anymore. The dude's own father warned us that he had been radicalized and to watch for him, an attack with the same explosives was thwarted a month earlier in Mogadishu (yeah, Mogadishu) and we definitely knew about it....
Yup, terrible difficulties to connect up those "dots"....
FEMA is a part of "Homeland Security" and are the people who would respond during an emergency where lives are at stake. Stop trying to be an apologist, we need to learn from the past not repeat it at even higher levels.
The same people who complained about Brown as head of FEMA now defend multiple appointees with zero experience in positions that, at this time, we need experience and competence. It is time to point out their hypocrisy.
meme
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I'm not apologizing for anything..I'm talking about Napolitano being put in this position..Bush and his Fema appointments are GONE..I'm talking about the here and now, thank you.
zappasguitar
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OMG you are SO full of sh*t!
This administration is failing? Gigantic LIE.
This administration has helped reverse the economic downturn brought on by FAILED Bush policies.
"Highest unemployment ever"? BULLSH*T LIE.
Just plain ol horsehockey...TOTAL FABRICATION...no need for refutation.
"failure on(WTF??) protecting this country"? ANOTHER BULLSH*T LIE.
Did the bomb go off on that plane in Detroit? THEN OBAMA HAS FOILED A TERRORIST PLOT AND KEPT THIS COUNTRY SAFE!
Good God, even SouthernMan isn't this big a political hack...
meme
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'Away From the Politics of Fear'
SNIP:03/16/2009
Janet Napolitano, 51, is President Obama's new Homeland Security Secretary. She spoke with SPIEGEL about immigration, the continued threat of terrorism and the changing tone in Washington.
SPIEGEL: Madame Secretary, in your first testimony to the US Congress as Homeland Security Secretary you never mentioned the word "terrorism." Does Islamist terrorism suddenly no longer pose a threat to your country?
Napolitano: Of course it does. I presume there is always a threat from terrorism. In my speech, although I did not use the word "terrorism," I referred to "man-caused" disasters. That is perhaps only a nuance, but it demonstrates that we want to move away from the politics of fear toward a policy of being prepared for all risks that can occur.
AP
Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano.
SPIEGEL: This sounds quite different from what we heard from the Bush administration. How will the new anti-terror policy differ from the previous one?
Napolitano: Our policies will be guided by authoritative information. We also have assets at our disposal now that we did not have prior to 9/11. For example, we are much better able to keep track of travellers coming into the US than we were before. The third thing is to work with our international partners and allies to make sure that we are getting information and sharing information in an appropriate and real-time fashion.
SPIEGEL: This weekend you met in Berlin with six European Union interior ministers. What should Europeans expect of you and the Obama administration?
Napolitano: Well, vis-à-vis working with me, what they can look forward to is a spirit of cooperation and coordination. Our approach will be not so much focused on protocol but on what steps each of us needs to accomplish to make our countries more secure.
SPIEGEL: What would you like to hear from your German counterpart, Interior Minister Wolfgang Schäuble?
Napolitano: The Bundestag (eds note: German parliament) soon has before it a vote to increase information-sharing, on criminal information, with us. This exchange is vital.
SPIEGEL: You would like the German authorities to share personal data of terrorism suspects, such as fingerprinting and DNA?
Napolitano: That is exactly right. We will also want to share some experiences with counter-radicalization, how the radicalization of young Muslims in our countries can be prevented.
read the rest..
http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,613330,00.html
SNIP:03/16/2009
Janet Napolitano, 51, is President Obama's new Homeland Security Secretary. She spoke with SPIEGEL about immigration, the continued threat of terrorism and the changing tone in Washington.
SPIEGEL: Madame Secretary, in your first testimony to the US Congress as Homeland Security Secretary you never mentioned the word "terrorism." Does Islamist terrorism suddenly no longer pose a threat to your country?
Napolitano: Of course it does. I presume there is always a threat from terrorism. In my speech, although I did not use the word "terrorism," I referred to "man-caused" disasters. That is perhaps only a nuance, but it demonstrates that we want to move away from the politics of fear toward a policy of being prepared for all risks that can occur.
AP
Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano.
SPIEGEL: This sounds quite different from what we heard from the Bush administration. How will the new anti-terror policy differ from the previous one?
Napolitano: Our policies will be guided by authoritative information. We also have assets at our disposal now that we did not have prior to 9/11. For example, we are much better able to keep track of travellers coming into the US than we were before. The third thing is to work with our international partners and allies to make sure that we are getting information and sharing information in an appropriate and real-time fashion.
SPIEGEL: This weekend you met in Berlin with six European Union interior ministers. What should Europeans expect of you and the Obama administration?
Napolitano: Well, vis-à-vis working with me, what they can look forward to is a spirit of cooperation and coordination. Our approach will be not so much focused on protocol but on what steps each of us needs to accomplish to make our countries more secure.
SPIEGEL: What would you like to hear from your German counterpart, Interior Minister Wolfgang Schäuble?
Napolitano: The Bundestag (eds note: German parliament) soon has before it a vote to increase information-sharing, on criminal information, with us. This exchange is vital.
SPIEGEL: You would like the German authorities to share personal data of terrorism suspects, such as fingerprinting and DNA?
Napolitano: That is exactly right. We will also want to share some experiences with counter-radicalization, how the radicalization of young Muslims in our countries can be prevented.
read the rest..
http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,613330,00.html
Can someone please, pretty please, tell what experience Tom Ridge had that made him qualified to be Homeland Security Secretary that Janet Napolitiano does not have?
I'll be patient.
And I'd also note that finding someone with background and experience in anti-terrorism, border security, disaster response and immigration is not an easy task. A border state governor deals with all of those issues and as a border state governor (in addition to her experience as a US Attorney) Napolitiano is uniquely qualified for the position.
Socrtease
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Did he get on a plane here in the US? WOw I thought it was a european agency that let that guy on the plane. My bad. As for knowing about the guy, we have known about this guy in Afghanistan for about 20 years now and we have been unable and unwilling to stop him as well. If someone gets on a plane HERE and tries this then I think we can cast blame on US officials, but he was in a foreign country with foreign police and foreign security. Comparing this to the mongolian clusterfuck that was New Orleans is laffable and shows how hard you gotta search for a comparison. At least she did more than raise fucking horses. Brown was pure and simple a gratis appointment.
DamnYankee
Loyal to the end
Lemme see the guys father told the government that his son had been radicalized, he paid cash for his ticket and he had no luggage. It looks to me that the person in charge fucked up, which was her. Unless of course you want to blame Obama.
Well if you are going to wait to see how long it will take Obama supporters to hold his ass to the flame, I would suggest you not hold your breath.
It doesn't really matter at all what the people like or dislike; What they approve, or don't approve. This ramming of Obamacare down our throats despite a reported 60% disapproval rating should tell you the days of your voice counting in even the most miniscule ways ARE OVER.
This man is getting away with the chickens, the hen house, and the farmer's family and we're just sitting by watching it unfold.
10 years from now we will be saying the same thing the Brits are saying today: We never thought it would go this far.
Kiss your children's world goodbye.
Lemme see the guys father told the government that his son had been radicalized, he paid cash for his ticket and he had no luggage. It looks to me that the person in charge fucked up, which was her. Unless of course you want to blame Obama.
And the hits keep on coming:
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/men-believed-northwest-airlines-plot-set-free/story?id=9434065
Yep. Trying them in New York will be a GREAT IDEA. I mean letting them go was, huh?
Well, perhaps the Bush Administration should have brought them to trial instead of releasing them to Saudi Arabia.
PostmodernProphet
fully immersed in faith..
gotta admit it's true....I don't know what we'd have done if Obama hadn't happened to be on the plane and grabbed the guy......
meme
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What they need is a successful career in intelligence and/or running successfully a rather large bureaucracy. Not Arizona border control only, and rather unsuccessfully.
Kind of like "Brownie" having experience in FEMA (because he worked there), but not quite enough apparently.
It was TSA over there. We have them to check planes coming here.
Of course, even if that wasn't the case the Watch List is disseminated to all of the checkpoints for flights that are coming here. That he was on the desk of some dude at the CIA for more than a month is a sign that the bureaucracy is not running even close to efficiently....
The president should have fired Ms. Napolitano for incompetence. Instead, he mouthed several minutes of dodgy, weasely pablum meant to assure us everything's fine. To say we foiled an "attempted" terrorist attack makes about as much sense as saying the 2000 attack on the Cole was an "attempt" to sink it that failed. The inconvenient truth is that this plot *succeeded.* A terrorist got aboard a U.S. airliner with enough explosive to have brought it down, and the passengers and crew are alive today only because--by sheer luck--the bomb fizzled as a passenger subdued him.
This man apparently was able to board the plane without a passport. His father had warned U.S. officials that he had become involved in religious extremism. He was noted on a list, but not one used to identify terrorists on airliners. Yet the technique of hiding the explosives in his underwear was also used by an Al Qaeda operative several months ago, in a failed attempt to murder the Saudi official in charge of anti-terrorist operations.
PostmodernProphet
fully immersed in faith..
yellow_peril is going to be SO pissed.......
Really, did Reid's father go to the Embassy and tell them that his son was a danger? Was he supposed to get on a list somewhere but his file was left gathering dust on a desk at the CIA? One month previous did somebody in Mogadishu get captured in a very similar (especially the type of bomb) incident?
Both were a danger, and IMO Bush didn't get enough flak for that, but that doesn't change that with all that went before I fully expect to have the person on a list for close scrutiny before he is able to board any transport.
http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,203478-3,00.html
Well, perhaps Clinton should have handled the plethora of threats he ignored and not opted to bomb an aspirin factory in some pathetic attempt to divert attention away from blow jobs in the Oval Office?
You want to go back further Nye-gel?
Liberal pressure is what the Bush administration caved to that had these poor guys locked up in Gitmo without a cause. He caved, they were let go to go back to what their original purpose was all along.
Kill American's, Dumbfuck!