Yup, that legalization of pot is a good thing

[cancel2 2022]

Which is a crackerjack idea if you cut that one piece out of the entire puzzle and look at it.

But what of increased addiction rates, chronic unemployed status, increased government dependency, neglected children, and an accompanying explosion of government benefits to address those problems? Liberals know legalization is their path to permanent power, their only concern is about controlling the genie once it's out of the bottle.

If the welfare state is eliminated, and I have guarantees that I won't get stuck with the bills for housing, feeding, and caring for drug addicts (and their children), I can consider legalization. Eliminate the welfare state first, then we can have a serious discussion about legalizing drugs.

And guess what? My position is more libertarian than that of any of the alleged libertarians on this forum.

But as I've said, they're not really libertarians. They're liberals who know their plans will lead to a permanent explosion in the size of government.

The money saved by closing down the DEA and preventing all the crime caused by petty criminals looking for their next fix would go a long way to helping drug addicts. Buy up all the Afghan heroin and give it to people free as well as use it for making pharmaceuticals like codeine and morphine.

 

[Billy the Great Khan]

The money saved by closing down the DEA and preventing all the crime caused by petty criminals looking for their next fix would go a long way to helping drug addicts. Buy up all the Afghan heroin and give it to people free as well as use it for making pharmaceuticals like codeine and morphine.

Don't engage fascists Tom, it makes them think they have an actually legitimate position. They don't.

 

[Taft2016]

Yeah, cheap and readily available opium. That worked so well for China.

 

[Space Monkey]

Exactly my point. We'll see how that plays out in court, and if prosecutors can secure a prosecution for it.

On one hand, it's unfair to prosecute someone for driving under the influence when they smoked months ago, on the other hand, it's unfair to let someone off who might be driving under the influence. How to know?

It's just a matter of time until a driving catastrophe occurs and makes national news. If the prosecutorial system can not prove driving under the influence.... bye bye legalized marijuana, hello federal enforcement.

Shut up retard. They are huge alcohol related automobile deaths everyday and the feds don't give a fuck.....and do nothing dream on whizzer.

 

[cancel2 2022]

Don't engage fascists Tom, it makes them think they have an actually legitimate position. They don't.

They need love and attention as well!!

 

[Space Monkey]

Do you have any notion how difficult it is to grow your own tobacco? Distill your own whiskey?

The comparision is void. There is no comparison.

You are such a fucking idiot and incorrect about so many things. It;s pretty damn hard to grow good weed but pretty easy to distil alcohol, and tobacco grows nearly everywhere on the continent.

 

[Space Monkey]

I'm saying anybody can grow marijuana for the use anywhere, even in a city apartment.

That does not apply to tobacco and spirits.

Everybody knows this, so the blather about tax revenues is just that. Blather.

Lies,

 

[Space Monkey]

OK now I understand where you are coming from. How many do you think will do that? I think more people would just buy it off the shelf for the convience than try to grow it to avoid taxes.

He is full of shit. Don't fall for his shit. You were on the right track.

 

[cancel2 2022]

Nothing has changed regarding the dui mj laws. They are able to secure convictions now and in the past. You are just a fear mongering douchebag.

It is all over for the drug warriors, bigots and other assorted dinosaurs. It's not going to swing back in your direction.

The police have tests for cannabis now and others are being developed.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...g-new-equipment-tell-instantly-influence.html

 

[Space Monkey]

Please. Stop embarrassing yourself. Essentially EVERY nation on the planet has laws against marijuana, gay marriage and/or homosexuality, although the queers have been making ground in recent years. Nonetheless, I got the whole human race on my side.

What I don't understand is why an alleged libertarian craves an official government blessing for his dope-fueled cornholing sessions. Particularly when the are so many more legitimate liberties under assault....

OK to assault one liberty, but not another....as long as you approve. Got it.

 

[Taft2016]

Shut up retard. They are huge alcohol related automobile deaths everyday and the feds don't give a fuck.....and do nothing dream on whizzer.

The point being, dumbass....

1. There is no complications about securing a conviction for DUI involving alcohol. The blood alcohol content can be correlated to driving during a specific timeframe... which is not quite so simple with marijuana, which can stay in the system for months.

2. There is no federal law to enforce against alcohol, as there is with marijuana.

3. You're a dumbass

 

[Taft2016]

OK to assault one liberty, but not another....as long as you approve. Got it.

OK to balloon the size of government, expand the welfare state, create new taxes and government regulations, as long as you can get high and be eligible for marriage benefits for getting cornholed.

Got it.

 

[Timshel]

Please. Stop embarrassing yourself. Essentially EVERY nation on the planet has laws against marijuana, gay marriage and/or homosexuality, although the queers have been making ground in recent years. Nonetheless, I got the whole human race on my side.

What I don't understand is why an alleged libertarian craves an official government blessing for his dope-fueled cornholing sessions. Particularly when the are so many more legitimate liberties under assault....

You have the dead and dying on your side.

Legalization has nothing to do with seeking consent. It's about ending the drug war which jails and harrassess hundreds of thousands and is used as a pretext for assaults on numerous other rights.

You sure are a ditzy assclown.

 

[Space Monkey]

The point being, dumbass....

1. There is no complications about securing a conviction for DUI involving alcohol. The blood alcohol content can be correlated to driving during a specific timeframe... which is not quite so simple with marijuana, which can stay in the system for months.

Wrong.

2. There is no federal law to enforce against alcohol, as there is with marijuana.


3. You're a dumbass

Yes, illegal prohibition of a naturally growing weed by the Feds hasn't ended yet. Prohibition of alcohol by the Feds has. You are a moron, a statist, a fascist, a big government nanny state stooge, a neo-con, NWO RWA. Your opinion on anything is not only unvalued but actually dangerous, in fact, you have finally outed yourself. I should have seen it sooner, you are a paid Murdoch shill.

There will be special, separate executions for traitors of your level.

 

[Space Monkey]

OK to balloon the size of government, expand the welfare state, create new taxes and government regulations, as long as you can get high and be eligible for marriage benefits for getting cornholed.

Got it.

Show where any libertarian support any of those lies, liar.

Dismissed.

 

[Taft2016]

You big gubmint libtards want legalization? Then end the welfare state first. Give normal working Americans some assurances that we won't get stuck with the bill for your lifestyle.

But you won't do that, will you? You won't talk about it, you won't even consider it.

Why? Because you're big gubmint libtards. You're Sanda Flukes substituting crack for condoms.

 

[Timshel]

OK to assault one liberty, but not another....as long as you approve. Got it.

Its all about the dipshits ideas about how it will affect the political landscape. He sees marijuana users as liberal and that alone is enough to justify his big government assault on liberty.

 

[Taft2016]

Show where any libertarian support any of those lies, liar.

Dismissed.

The problem being, you people are either completely narcissistic lunatics who can not envision the implications of your position outside the narrow parameters of your own lives or

You're liberals, or

Both.

In any case, Dismissed.

 

[Space Monkey]

You big gubmint libtards want legalization? Then end the welfare state first. Give normal working Americans some assurances that we won't get stuck with the bill for your lifestyle.

But you won't do that, will you? You won't talk about it, you won't even consider it.

Why? Because you're big gubmint libtards. You're Sanda Flukes substituting crack for condoms.

1. The welfare state ended under Glorious Leader Clinton, moron. Were you in high school by then?
2. End corporate welfare (it is double human welfare and serves no good purpose).
3. We are a society. We protect the weakest amongst us. One would think a good chrisatian like you would understand that, since that was the main message of the Messiah. (lower case c intentional, considering the object of the sentence.)

 

[Space Monkey]

The problem being, you people are either completely narcissistic lunatics who can not envision the implications of your position outside the narrow parameters of your own lives or

You're liberals, or

Both.

In any case, Dismissed.

Sorry retard, you can't dismiss me after you have already been dismissed. It is like quitting after you have been fired.