anonymoose
Classical Liberal
I’m hoping he’s doing a rope a dope for further negotiations.
AProudLefty
The remora of JPP
What's your point? Are you justifying Putin's invasion?
anonymoose
Classical Liberal
No. What makes you think that?
AProudLefty
The remora of JPP
Your posts. What is your point?
anonymoose
Classical Liberal
The Ukraine parliament was stoopid to allow a coup de tat. No more , no less. Hindsight is 20/20. This war could have been avoided.
Do you think it was wise to allow the coup knowing what you do now?
AProudLefty
The remora of JPP
So should have they kept him after what he did? Should they have known it would have resulted in Putin's invasion?
Margot
Verified User
Didn't have to
anonymoose
Classical Liberal
Correct. Because it’s not part of the discussion.
Now you’re free to call me jerk-face, fat-head, bucket-head or whatever suits your inner 7th grade child.
anonymoose
Classical Liberal
They could have gone through an impeachment process but he did not commit a crime. There’s such things as elections in an actual democracy. Coups are third world.
Of course not but he already took crimea. That should have been a strong indication of his intentions.
Like I said, hindsight is 20/20.
AProudLefty
The remora of JPP
Still don't get your point. You say you don't support invasion so what is it? You say they should have known better and yet you say they don't.
Seems your trolling is conflicted.
anonymoose
Classical Liberal
The war could have been avoided.
I don’t.
If they weren’t acting like third world over emotional children they would have.
I didn’t say that. Where did I say that? They probably do now. The 2014 parliament miscalculated Putin’s ruthlessness.
Putin miscalculated Ukraine’s resolve.
Seems you have a problem with comprehension.
AProudLefty
The remora of JPP
I comprehend just fine. You seem conflicted about the war.
The simple truth is Putin invaded Ukrakine.
Debating about what Ukraine should have done with the criminal doesn't change the fact.
anonymoose
Classical Liberal
How so?
Really? No kidding.
No debate. Just an opinion. Shoulda, woulda, coulda.
I think both sides would have handled the past better in hindsight.
Tarring Z as a dictator when he was never anything more than an Imperial Empire Lackey is all about Trump wanting America to avoid as much as possible responsibility for what we have done.
We kill over a million Ukrainians, destroy Ukraine, then blame it all on Europe and Ukraine.
We kill over a million Ukrainians, destroy Ukraine, then blame it all on Europe and Ukraine.
Yes, Putin offered two possible ends to the conflict. Either complete surrender, or suicide. They were similar offers made by Al Qaeda to the USA.
That does not mean they will just surrender and die.
The Ukrainians are dictating how they are going to behave.
What Ukraine did internally was its own business, not Putin’s.
So Russian missiles pointing at us from Cuba would now be fine?
Not comparable.
anonymoose
Classical Liberal
Understood and agree. But that’s not the way Putin saw it. He considers Ukraine (and Belarus) as part of the Russian empire. Like it or not that’s the reality.
The Ukraine parliament should have moved more slowly. 20/20 hindsight.
Now Ukraine is caught up in an unwinnable war.
As long as they’re willing to fighting it I’m all for supporting them. But with more proportional help from the rest of NATO.
The EU has more to lose than the U.S. And what is Canada doing? Not much. Even the European NATO countries are fed up with those pussies.
Dutch Uncle
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....or the results of alcoholic dementia.