Zelenskyy now says he will sign the deal...

Teflon Don said:
George Bush let Putin invade Georgia

Obama let Putin invade Crimea

Biden let Putin invade Ukraine

Putin didn’t do shit while Trump was President yet to the Marxists on JPP, Trump is the Russian asset

That is what passes for logic to leftists
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Russia has been celebrating since Friday.

They're absolutely giddy about America's change in policy. And apparently, it was all because Zelensky didn't say thank you enough.
 
BartenderElite said:
Russia has been celebrating since Friday.

They're absolutely giddy about America's change in policy. And apparently, it was all because Zelensky didn't say thank you enough.
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The Russians are laser focused on avoiding the WW3 that America has been driving for.....Hell Ya they are happy to find a comrade in Trump.
 
Teflon Don said:
Not at all I don’t support giving Russia anything. I support Russia doing what they think is in their strategic interest as long as they don’t fuck with us. Not complicated.
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No, just stupid myopic MAGA troll reasoning ... bereft of any recognition of historic precedence.
 
Taichiliberal said:
No, just stupid myopic MAGA troll reasoning ... bereft of any recognition of historic precedence.
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The historical is that Russia has been repeatedly invaded, and that since the fall of the Soviet Union all they have seen from America is deceit and betrayal and hate.
 
The Russians will talk to us, but they dont currently trust us.....they say in a few decades time they might come to depending upon our behaviour.

Trusting the Europeans is off the table.
 
The Wests ceasefire, elections, negotiations plan is DOA.....the Russians tried that with us already.....now we do it their way.

In war the winners dictate the terms.
 
Earl said:
Yes, America voted for the person who will do what’s best for America…first.

The rest of the world comes next and they need to step up, commit their blood and treasure and help pull the wagon.

You think President Trump is insecure? Really?

This is why you lost the election, you have no clue.
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Hey, dummy, do you think Trump is not insecure? Stated without the double negative, do you think Trump is a secure person in his own self estimation and the way he perceives others' judgment about himself?
 
This is how this is going to go say the winners:

There will be negotiations with the West to get the European security deal the Russians been wanting for a couple of decades....at some point there will be cease fire....at some point the Ukrainians will have elections and then sign the agreement

If Ukraine continues to exist.
 
All military forces inside the borders of the Rump of Ukraine without Russian permission are combatants, subject to elimination by Russia.

The Russians do not bluff.
 
In the last year or so Russia has made it a practice to hunt non Ukrainians fighting for this defacto NATO army.
 
The idea that MAGA has rich intel on Ukraine, to include the massive Ukrainian corruption, completely outside of the CIA is interesting.
 
"To tell the Ukrainians the truth would be to admit that we lied".....which is why the Europeans continue to refuse to tell the truth.
 
Proud thinks that the Russians will say, like maybe in a month, "Oh Never Mind.....we have been saying over and over and over again for a year that we wont, but sure, lets start with a cease fire".

i tend to doubt it.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Blessed B The PeaceMakers.
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Hawkeye10 said:
Blessed B The PeaceMakers.
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