45% of Doctors Would Consider Quitting

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45% Of Doctors Would Consider Quitting If Congress Passes Health Care Overhaul

By TERRY JONES
News Analysis by IBD * Posted Tuesday, September 15, 2009 4:30 PM PT

Two of every three practicing physicians oppose the medical overhaul plan under consideration in Washington, and hundreds of thousands would think about shutting down their practices or retiring early if it were adopted, a new IBD/TIPP Poll has found.

The poll contradicts the claims of not only the White House, but also doctors' own lobby — the powerful American Medical Association — both of which suggest the medical profession is behind the proposed overhaul.

It also calls into question whether an overhaul is even doable; 72% of the doctors polled disagree with the administration's claim that the government can cover 47 million more people with better-quality care at lower cost.

The IBD/TIPP Poll was conducted by mail the past two weeks, with 1,376 practicing physicians chosen randomly throughout the country taking part. Responses are still coming in, and doctors' positions on related topics — including the impact of an overhaul on senior care, medical school applications and drug development — will be covered later in this series.

Major findings included:

• Two-thirds, or 65%, of doctors say they oppose the proposed government expansion plan. This contradicts the administration's claims that doctors are part of an "unprecedented coalition" supporting a medical overhaul.

It also differs with findings of a poll released Monday by National Public Radio that suggests a "majority of physicians want public and private insurance options," and clashes with media reports such as Tuesday's front-page story in the Los Angeles Times with the headline "Doctors Go For Obama's Reform."

Nowhere in the Times story does it say doctors as a whole back the overhaul. It says only that the AMA — the "association representing the nation's physicians" and what "many still regard as the country's premier lobbying force" — is "lobbying and advertising to win public support for President Obama's sweeping plan."

The AMA, in fact, represents approximately 18% of physicians and has been hit with a number of defections by members opposed to the AMA's support of Democrats' proposed health care overhaul.

• Four of nine doctors, or 45%, said they "would consider leaving their practice or taking an early retirement" if Congress passes the plan the Democratic majority and White House have in mind.

More than 800,000 doctors were practicing in 2006, the government says. Projecting the poll's finding onto that population, 360,000 doctors would consider quitting.

More at link...

http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=337909690110379
 
Some doctors say they are going to "quit practicing" because of the cost of malpractice insurance, HMO policies, etc.

This has gone on for years.

How many actually follow through?

Look at it this way;

We need jobs in this country, and while young Americans are completing their medical education to fill the increased demand for heath care that reform will create, we will become the destination of choice for foreign-trained physicians.
 
So now Damo supports the union like actions of physicians? Don't do this or we will strike?
Big deal we can get plenty more from India.
 
So now Damo supports the union like actions of physicians? Don't do this or we will strike?
Big deal we can get plenty more from India.
Wow, you are all funny today. Unintentionally so, but funny nevertheless...

Anyway, I have never rejected unions as a whole, I think they have their place and time. I simply reject the union that is trying to force itself onto us as it has been less than useless for the people that work under its rather dubious "protection."

However, this isn't a "union", they didn't ban together and make an announcement, it was a poll. They answered individually, not as a group. This is like rejecting the "union-like" activities of "voters".
 
45% Of Doctors Would Consider Quitting If Congress Passes Health Care Overhaul

By TERRY JONES
News Analysis by IBD * Posted Tuesday, September 15, 2009 4:30 PM PT

Two of every three practicing physicians oppose the medical overhaul plan under consideration in Washington, and hundreds of thousands would think about shutting down their practices or retiring early if it were adopted, a new IBD/TIPP Poll has found.

The poll contradicts the claims of not only the White House, but also doctors' own lobby — the powerful American Medical Association — both of which suggest the medical profession is behind the proposed overhaul.

It also calls into question whether an overhaul is even doable; 72% of the doctors polled disagree with the administration's claim that the government can cover 47 million more people with better-quality care at lower cost.

The IBD/TIPP Poll was conducted by mail the past two weeks, with 1,376 practicing physicians chosen randomly throughout the country taking part. Responses are still coming in, and doctors' positions on related topics — including the impact of an overhaul on senior care, medical school applications and drug development — will be covered later in this series.

Major findings included:

• Two-thirds, or 65%, of doctors say they oppose the proposed government expansion plan. This contradicts the administration's claims that doctors are part of an "unprecedented coalition" supporting a medical overhaul.

It also differs with findings of a poll released Monday by National Public Radio that suggests a "majority of physicians want public and private insurance options," and clashes with media reports such as Tuesday's front-page story in the Los Angeles Times with the headline "Doctors Go For Obama's Reform."

Nowhere in the Times story does it say doctors as a whole back the overhaul. It says only that the AMA — the "association representing the nation's physicians" and what "many still regard as the country's premier lobbying force" — is "lobbying and advertising to win public support for President Obama's sweeping plan."

The AMA, in fact, represents approximately 18% of physicians and has been hit with a number of defections by members opposed to the AMA's support of Democrats' proposed health care overhaul.

• Four of nine doctors, or 45%, said they "would consider leaving their practice or taking an early retirement" if Congress passes the plan the Democratic majority and White House have in mind.

More than 800,000 doctors were practicing in 2006, the government says. Projecting the poll's finding onto that population, 360,000 doctors would consider quitting.

More at link...

http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=337909690110379

When the NHS was founded many doctors and consultants threatened to quit, in practice very few did.
 
As I said, some physicians have been threatening to quit because of (fill in the blank) for years, as in the examples below.

http://www.redorbit.com/news/health/210988/some_doctors_say_theyll_quit_medicare/

http://www.allamericanblogger.com/7...eave-practice-if-forced-to-perform-abortions/

Didn't happen then, did it?
Many doctors have stopped practicing due to being forced into defense medicine postures. It was the reason my mother strongly suggested I not enter the field of medicine.

It is foolish to ignore the fact that 71% answered in the negative when asked if they support this legislation and that many may leave the profession. When 1/6 of the economy is at stake it becomes important indeed.
 
Maybe she knew you couldn't cut it as a surgeon.

Or perhaps she sensed that you lack the patience to be a doctor.
Both would be incorrect. Patience I have in abundance, and the capacity to learn and apply what I know.

What she warned against was the increasing dissatisfaction of those who practice, as she does.
 
45% Of Doctors Would Consider Quitting If Congress Passes Health Care Overhaul

By TERRY JONES
News Analysis by IBD * Posted Tuesday, September 15, 2009 4:30 PM PT

Two of every three practicing physicians oppose the medical overhaul plan under consideration in Washington, and hundreds of thousands would think about shutting down their practices or retiring early if it were adopted, a new IBD/TIPP Poll has found.

The poll contradicts the claims of not only the White House, but also doctors' own lobby — the powerful American Medical Association — both of which suggest the medical profession is behind the proposed overhaul.

It also calls into question whether an overhaul is even doable; 72% of the doctors polled disagree with the administration's claim that the government can cover 47 million more people with better-quality care at lower cost.

The IBD/TIPP Poll was conducted by mail the past two weeks, with 1,376 practicing physicians chosen randomly throughout the country taking part. Responses are still coming in, and doctors' positions on related topics — including the impact of an overhaul on senior care, medical school applications and drug development — will be covered later in this series.

Major findings included:

• Two-thirds, or 65%, of doctors say they oppose the proposed government expansion plan. This contradicts the administration's claims that doctors are part of an "unprecedented coalition" supporting a medical overhaul.

It also differs with findings of a poll released Monday by National Public Radio that suggests a "majority of physicians want public and private insurance options," and clashes with media reports such as Tuesday's front-page story in the Los Angeles Times with the headline "Doctors Go For Obama's Reform."

Nowhere in the Times story does it say doctors as a whole back the overhaul. It says only that the AMA — the "association representing the nation's physicians" and what "many still regard as the country's premier lobbying force" — is "lobbying and advertising to win public support for President Obama's sweeping plan."

The AMA, in fact, represents approximately 18% of physicians and has been hit with a number of defections by members opposed to the AMA's support of Democrats' proposed health care overhaul.

• Four of nine doctors, or 45%, said they "would consider leaving their practice or taking an early retirement" if Congress passes the plan the Democratic majority and White House have in mind.

More than 800,000 doctors were practicing in 2006, the government says. Projecting the poll's finding onto that population, 360,000 doctors would consider quitting.

More at link...

http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=337909690110379

Of course they might CONSIDER quitting...then they'd realize they can't make as much selling flair pens at the CVS, so although they might "CONSIDER" quitting, how many would flollow through?
 
45% Of Doctors Would Consider Quitting If Congress Passes Health Care Overhaul

By TERRY JONES
News Analysis by IBD * Posted Tuesday, September 15, 2009 4:30 PM PT

Two of every three practicing physicians oppose the medical overhaul plan under consideration in Washington, and hundreds of thousands would think about shutting down their practices or retiring early if it were adopted, a new IBD/TIPP Poll has found.

The poll contradicts the claims of not only the White House, but also doctors' own lobby — the powerful American Medical Association — both of which suggest the medical profession is behind the proposed overhaul.

It also calls into question whether an overhaul is even doable; 72% of the doctors polled disagree with the administration's claim that the government can cover 47 million more people with better-quality care at lower cost.

The IBD/TIPP Poll was conducted by mail the past two weeks, with 1,376 practicing physicians chosen randomly throughout the country taking part. Responses are still coming in, and doctors' positions on related topics — including the impact of an overhaul on senior care, medical school applications and drug development — will be covered later in this series.

Major findings included:

• Two-thirds, or 65%, of doctors say they oppose the proposed government expansion plan. This contradicts the administration's claims that doctors are part of an "unprecedented coalition" supporting a medical overhaul.

It also differs with findings of a poll released Monday by National Public Radio that suggests a "majority of physicians want public and private insurance options," and clashes with media reports such as Tuesday's front-page story in the Los Angeles Times with the headline "Doctors Go For Obama's Reform."

Nowhere in the Times story does it say doctors as a whole back the overhaul. It says only that the AMA — the "association representing the nation's physicians" and what "many still regard as the country's premier lobbying force" — is "lobbying and advertising to win public support for President Obama's sweeping plan."

The AMA, in fact, represents approximately 18% of physicians and has been hit with a number of defections by members opposed to the AMA's support of Democrats' proposed health care overhaul.

• Four of nine doctors, or 45%, said they "would consider leaving their practice or taking an early retirement" if Congress passes the plan the Democratic majority and White House have in mind.

More than 800,000 doctors were practicing in 2006, the government says. Projecting the poll's finding onto that population, 360,000 doctors would consider quitting.

More at link...

http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=337909690110379
I'm sorry Damo but there's a credibility issue here. Mail in polls are about as scientific as on-line Internet polls. Since the samples essentially select themselves. Do you have a link to any polls that are scientifically defensible?
 
I'm sorry Damo but there's a credibility issue here. Mail in polls are about as scientific as on-line Internet polls. Since the samples essentially select themselves. Do you have a link to any polls that are scientifically defensible?
Actually, this is not exactly correct... I agree that they can be suspect, but they can also be valuable pieces of information. The less respondents among the randomly selected group would increase the margin of error in the poll, and particularly on this one, "responses are still coming in" yet they published. However, it is a random selection of doctors, not "man on the street" and the validity can be mathematically figured in a case where there are a limited number of respondents.

http://journalism.wlu.edu/J203/polls.htm

Mail surveys can be excellent sources of information, but it takes weeks to do a mail survey, meaning that the results cannot be as timely as a telephone survey. And mail surveys can be subject to other kinds of errors, Particularly low response rates, In many mail surveys, more people fail to participate than do. This makes the results suspect.

Now, had they put it as an ad in a magazine or something (like an online poll that anybody could stumble upon) rather than selected people who were doctors randomly as they did it would be even more suspect and validity would be impossible.
 
Get back to me when 45% of the doctors polled actually do quit because health care reform passed, and I'll admit I was wrong.
 
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