A little history for those wanting to 'restore Palestine'.

Before WWI was over, the Brits promised the Palestinians there own homeland. That never occurred. There were millions of Palestinians living there with few Jews.

Then, in the late 1940s, when the State of Israel was established, they allowed the Israelis to confiscate (steal) lands and property from the resident Palestinians. The 1948 conflict made them refugees from there own land..
 
domer76 said:
Before WWI was over, the Brits promised the Palestinians there own homeland. That never occurred. There were millions of Palestinians living there with few Jews.

Then, in the late 1940s, when the State of Israel was established, they allowed the Israelis to confiscate (steal) lands and property from the resident Palestinians. The 1948 conflict made them refugees from there own land..
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Did you mean Arabs? Where do you get that "promise" from? Quote and source, please.

Jordan is the "Palestinian State".
 
Bigdog said:
Did you mean Arabs? Where do you get that "promise" from? Quote and source, please.

Jordan is the "Palestinian State".
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The intention was for there to be two states but the Arabs only wanted to kill all Jews and drive them into the sea. The Boise bullshitter just never stops bullshitting.

Creation of Israel, 1948

On May 14, 1948, David Ben-Gurion, the head of the Jewish Agency, proclaimed the establishment of the State of Israel. U.S. President Harry S. Truman recognized the new nation on the same day.
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Eliahu Elath presenting ark to President Truman

Although the United States supported the Balfour Declaration of 1917, which favored the establishment of a Jewish national home in Palestine, President Franklin D. Roosevelt had assured the Arabs in 1945 that the United States would not intervene without consulting both the Jews and the Arabs in that region. The British, who held a colonial mandate for Palestine until May 1948, opposed both the creation of a Jewish state and an Arab state in Palestine as well as unlimited immigration of Jewish refugees to the region. Great Britain wanted to preserve good relations with the Arabs to protect its vital political and economic interests in Palestine.

Soon after President Truman took office, he appointed several experts to study the Palestinian issue. In the summer of 1946, Truman established a special cabinet committee under the chairmanship of Dr. Henry F. Grady, an Assistant Secretary of State, who entered into negotiations with a parallel British committee to discuss the future of Palestine. In May 1946, Truman announced his approval of a recommendation to admit 100,000 displaced persons into Palestine and in October publicly declared his support for the creation of a Jewish state. Throughout 1947, the United Nations Special Commission on Palestine examined the Palestinian question and recommended the partition of Palestine into a Jewish and an Arab state. On November 29, 1947 the United Nations adopted Resolution 181 (also known as the Partition Resolution) that would divide Great Britain’s former Palestinian mandate into Jewish and Arab states in May 1948 when the British mandate was scheduled to end. Under the resolution, the area of religious significance surrounding Jerusalem would remain a corpus separatum under international control administered by the United Nations.

Although the United States backed Resolution 181, the U.S. Department of State recommended the creation of a United Nations trusteeship with limits on Jewish immigration and a division of Palestine into separate Jewish and Arab provinces but not states. The State Department, concerned about the possibility of an increasing Soviet role in the Arab world and the potential for restriction by Arab oil producing nations of oil supplies to the United States, advised against U.S. intervention on behalf of the Jews. Later, as the date for British departure from Palestine drew near, the Department of State grew concerned about the possibility of an all-out war in Palestine as Arab states threatened to attack almost as soon as the UN passed the partition resolution.

Despite growing conflict between Palestinian Arabs and Palestinian Jews and despite the Department of State’s endorsement of a trusteeship, Truman ultimately decided to recognize the state of Israel.

https://history.state.gov/milestone...er 29, 1947 the,mandate was scheduled to end.

 
domer76 said:
Before WWI was over, the Brits promised the Palestinians there own homeland. That never occurred. There were millions of Palestinians living there with few Jews.

Then, in the late 1940s, when the State of Israel was established, they allowed the Israelis to confiscate (steal) lands and property from the resident Palestinians. The 1948 conflict made them refugees from there own land..
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The Palestinians refused to negotiate a two state solution.
They said "Death to the infidels," only now they're the ones dying.
 
Prior to the Balfour agreement, there was the McMahon Hussein agreement. That was violated with Balfour. But, Balfour did agree to protect the Palestinian’s property and civil rights. That was violated again, and especially in 1948. That’s when the Palestinians revolted, lost and became refugees in their own homeland.
 
if we need to change the borders of Israel formed by the UN after WW2 do we also need to reform the borders of Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Saudi Arabia and Turkey?......
 
domer76 said:
Prior to the Balfour agreement, there was the McMahon Hussein agreement. That was violated with Balfour. But, Balfour did agree to protect the Palestinian’s property and civil rights. That was violated again, and especially in 1948. That’s when the Palestinians revolted, lost and became refugees in their own homeland.
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It was Not violated.

In the end, the Arabs basically got all of Greater Syria except for part of the coastline. Which is what was discussed, even tho McMahon had zero authority to give away Ottoman lands, much less, draw international borders, Brainwashed Turdlette.
 
Bigdog said:
It was Not violated.

In the end, the Arabs basically got all of Greater Syria except for part of the coastline. Which is what was discussed, even tho McMahon had zero authority to give away Ottoman lands, much less, draw international borders, Brainwashed Turdlette.
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The point has gone over your pointy head, moron.
 
domer76 said:
Before WWI was over, the Brits promised the Palestinians there own homeland. That never occurred. There were millions of Palestinians living there with few Jews.

Then, in the late 1940s, when the State of Israel was established, they allowed the Israelis to confiscate (steal) lands and property from the resident Palestinians. The 1948 conflict made them refugees from there own land..
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England offered them HALF of Israel the Palestinians said no the Jews said yes. The Palestinians fought the Jews to kick the Jews out of their half and the Palestinians LOST. I don't feel sorry for the Palestinians at all.
 
ExpressLane said:
England offered them HALF of Israel the Palestinians said no the Jews said yes. The Palestinians fought the Jews to kick the Jews out of their half and the Palestinians LOST. I don't feel sorry for the Palestinians at all.
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The Jews were a tiny minority. What the fuck would you say if another country offered half of your homeland to a tiny minority?

Then, when that became a reality and the minority was given “legal” authority to confiscate your property and turn you into a refugee in your own homeland, do you really think they should have just let that go?
 
domer76 said:
The Jews were a tiny minority. What the fuck would you say if another country offered half of your homeland to a tiny minority?

Then, when that became a reality and the minority was given “legal” authority to confiscate your property and turn you into a refugee in your own homeland, do you really think they should have just let that go?
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In 1948 there were over 800,000 Jews, which was enough to fight five Arab armies and win.

Leaving aside the fact that Jordan is actually a Palestinian state, as it’s the Arab country that covers 75% of what used to be called “Transjordan” when the British were in charge after WW I (and the word “Palestinian” hadn’t even been invented yet) But let’s just focus on the remaining 25%, which is currently Israel, Gaza, and West Bank. For the people living in those areas they were offered a state in 1948 - which they refused, because it wasn’t “from the river to the sea”.
 
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serendipity said:
In 1948 there were over 800,000 Jews, which was enough to fight five Arab armies and win.

Leaving aside the fact that Jordan is actually a Palestinian state, as it’s the Arab country that covers 75% of what used to be called “Transjordan” when the British were in charge after WW I (and the word “Palestinian” hadn’t even been invented yet) But let’s just focus on the remaining 25%, which is currently Israel, Gaza, and West Bank. For the people living in those areas they were offered a state in 1948 - which they refused, because it wasn’t “from the river to the sea”.
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Just after WWI, the Muslims comprised 80% of the population in Palestine, regardless of what you wish to call it. Then, the massive emigration of the Jews began. By the time the war broke out, Muslims were still, by far, the majority population. When they lost the war, that’s when the “legal” seizure of their land and property forced them to be refugees in their own homeland.
 
domer76 said:
Just after WWI, the Muslims comprised 80% of the population in Palestine, regardless of what you wish to call it. Then, the massive emigration of the Jews began. By the time the war broke out, Muslims were still, by far, the majority population. When they lost the war, that’s when the “legal” seizure of their land and property forced them to be refugees in their own homeland.
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This is from Quora.

https://www.quora.com/How-often-hav...hare=a8e728cf&srid=ptTZY&target_type=question
 
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