Atheist conclusions about the historicity of the resurrection

[Phantasmal]

so.

As I suspected. Take a bath.

 

[Neoclitorus]

As I suspected. Take a bath.

will you wash me?

 

[Phantasmal]

will you wash me?

You should stop fantasizing about me. I’m not remotely into you.

 

[Neoclitorus]

You should stop fantasizing about me. I’m not remotely into you.

that's what she said.

 

[dancindave]

so is Judaism a REAL RELIGION but Christianity is a misunderstanding?

is bombing the Gaza babies in accordance with the golden rule?

Unfortunately that human reproduction medical pseudoscience has little more than suicidal super egos maintaining Christiananality pedophilia sociopsychopathilogical homicidal human farming values as Islamidiotocracy flaming flying chariot pseudoscience pedophilia Valhalla which deny any Judaism in Christian Nation SCOTUS Rehnquist “serve the Pope or die” drug trafficking fiefdom enforcement ethnic cleansing genocide pogrom….

 

[Neoclitorus]

Unfortunately that human reproduction medical pseudoscience has little more than suicidal super egos maintaining Christiananality pedophilia sociopsychopathilogical homicidal human farming values as Islamidiotocracy flaming flying chariot pseudoscience pedophilia Valhalla which deny any Judaism in Christian Nation SCOTUS Rehnquist “serve the Pope or die” drug trafficking fiefdom enforcement ethnic cleansing genocide pogrom….

this has an air of correctness about it.

 

[Hume]

Atheist New Testament scholar Gerd Lüdemann evaluated every reference to Jesus' resurrection in the New Testament, as well as apocryphal literature. Through this approach, he offers a reconstruction of the probable course of events as well as the circumstances surrounding Jesus' death on the cross, the burial of his body, his reported resurrection on the third day, and subsequent appearances to various disciples.

The Christian faith Luedemann concludes ultimately stems from hallucinations of Peter and the other disciples, both men and women.

From a modern perspective this leads to the inescapable conclusion that the primary witnesses to Jesus' resurrection were victims of self-deception.

In conclusion, he asks whether in light of the nonhistoricity of Jesus' resurrection, thinking people today can legitimately and in good conscience still call themselves Christians.



https://www.amazon.com/Resurrection-Christ-Historical-Inquiry/dp/1591022452
https://www.fortresspress.com/store/product/9780800627928/The-Resurrection-of-Jesus

Can't you be happy to be a Chistian?

 

[dancindave]

this has an air of correctness about it.

Probably still doesn’t matter to Christian Nation SCOTUS Rehnquist Bicentennial July Fourth Reich and those crooks on Capital Hill as Rehnquist’s “what is 9/11 ?” rhetorical Freudian slip for one nation under God with equal justice under law…..

 

[EdwinA]

And you have such knowledge? I didn't realize there was an ancient hebrew section of the GED.

^^^ Moron can't find Jewish studies on the innernetz, wouldn't read them if he could, so just snivels and whines about those who have and bother to educate themselves. Also thinks Hebrew and Greek are too exotic to be translated, and only readable by Orthodox Jews cuz genetics n stuff. lol

 

[EdwinA]

so is Judaism a REAL RELIGION but Christianity is a misunderstanding?

is bombing the Gaza babies in accordance with the golden rule?

It's according to the rights of self-defense. If the Hamas vermin wants to hide behind children, their deaths are on them, not the people they started a war with, via gang rapes and mass murders.

 

[Daylight63]

^^^ Perry is angry and stressed out again.

I am fascinated at how much you obsess on other posters being "angry". That would indicate that you want them to be angry which makes you a troll.

But in the meantime when are you going to show me any posts by this supposed Perry person? I don't think they exist. I would love to see one.

But as per usual, you are ALL TALK and no show.

Is that you problem? Why you're such a dick? You are completely powerless to prove anything you say. People tend to dismiss you because you are just always talking but never following through.

PRO TIP: If you want to make claims, follow up and SUPPORT those claims. When you get a big-boy job that skill will come in handy.

 

[Daylight63]

^^^ Moron can't find Jewish studies on the innernetz, wouldn't read them if he could, so just snivels and whines about those who have and bother to educate themselves. Also thinks Hebrew and Greek are too exotic to be translated, and only readable by Orthodox Jews cuz genetics n stuff. lol

Like you know a thing about Jewish literature. Please. Give it a rest, Cletus. No one thinks you're a scholar.

 

[Neoclitorus]

It's according to the rights of self-defense. If the Hamas vermin wants to hide behind children, their deaths are on them, not the people they started a war with, via gang rapes and mass murders.

every time you bomb a civilian population there's people "hiding behind their children"

ape-faced Zionist moron.

 

[EdwinA]

Like you know a thing about Jewish literature. Please. Give it a rest, Cletus. No one thinks you're a scholar.

Well, you and your ilk don't think at all, so this sniveling is certainly true, halfwit.

 

[EdwinA]

every time you bomb a civilian population there's people "hiding behind their children"

ape-faced Zionist moron.

A, your gang raping feral savages are getting bombed. boo fucking hoo. It's called 'reaping what you sow', and nobody else is responsible but them, swine boi.

 

[Daylight63]

Well, you and your ilk don't think at all, so this sniveling is certainly true, halfwit.

You should really talk with Cypress. He's super-duper smart like you. You two will get along famously.

 

[Into the Night]

Atheist New Testament scholar Gerd Lüdemann evaluated every reference to Jesus' resurrection in the New Testament, as well as apocryphal literature. Through this approach, he offers a reconstruction of the probable course of events as well as the circumstances surrounding Jesus' death on the cross, the burial of his body, his reported resurrection on the third day, and subsequent appearances to various disciples.

The Christian faith Luedemann concludes ultimately stems from hallucinations of Peter and the other disciples, both men and women.

From a modern perspective this leads to the inescapable conclusion that the primary witnesses to Jesus' resurrection were victims of self-deception.

In conclusion, he asks whether in light of the nonhistoricity of Jesus' resurrection, thinking people today can legitimately and in good conscience still call themselves Christians.

Displacement. Contextomy fallacy.
Gerd Ludemann is not an atheist. He is a religious fundamentalist.

 

[Into the Night]

What I'm saying is we have no idea if any of the gospel stories are even real. We have no idea if anyone actually believed they saw Jesus alive after his death or were they all just stories made up to convince people that Jesus was divine.

False dichotomy fallacy.

 

[Into the Night]

The noteworthy thing here is that even a respected atheist

He is not an atheist. He is a religious fundamentalist.

New Testament scholar won't take up the torch of saying everyone was lying about the crucifixion and resurrection of Jesus. He thinks there is enough reliable historicity to say something really did happen, the disciples really did believe they saw Jesus after the crucifixion, and it does requires an explanation - in this case, hallucinations and self delusion.

Paradox. Irrational. You cannot argue both sides of a paradox.

 

[Neoclitorus]

A, your gang raping feral savages are getting bombed. boo fucking hoo. It's called 'reaping what you sow', and nobody else is responsible but them, swine boi.

they're not mine.

bebe funded them.

they're bebe's.