Atheist conclusions about the historicity of the resurrection

What I'm saying is we have no idea if any of the gospel stories are even real. We have no idea if anyone actually believed they saw Jesus alive after his death or were they all just stories made up to convince people that Jesus was divine.
While we can agree that the divinity stories came after the fact, there should be no doubt that many of the events from Palm Sunday and the following week happened as described.

The resurrection could have happened if Jesus had survived the crucifixion....although I doubt he'd be walking around due to the wounds.
 
You don't need Jesus or Christianity for that. Confucius taught the golden rule 500 years before Jesus, and his students memorialized it in the Analects.

You think the New Testament is a pack of lies written by people who had the intent to deceive.

That's not moral. That's flagrantly immoral.

You would be a fool to make liars your model for moral knowledge.
but we have it.

hallelujah.

so Jesus brought confucianism to the west.

I say it's Buddhism but whatever.

confucianism is a state religion based on a hierarchy, so of course your dumbass thinks it's' the bees knees.

Buddhism and taoism are both better than confucianism and that's what Jesus taught.

confucianism suck balls.
 
Is that why you act like they are jokes?

Blessed are those who show compassion and forgiveness, as they will receive mercy. LOL. You are incapable of showing mercy. Whoever Percy is has your undying hatred that will apparently go to your grave with you. Your hatred for this person is SO STRONG you spill it over on me and whomever else you don't like at the time. You don't know what forgiveness is if this guy got you this upset that even strangers get the brunt of your upset.


Blessed are those with a sincere and honest heart: LOL. The guy who CONSTANTLY misrepresents other people's posts and then attacks them for it surely doesn't know what this phrase means.


Blessed are those who actively work to bring peace and reconciliation: LOL. Again, your enemies list seems pretty long. You and Doc seem to just sit on here bitching about everyone else.


So you'll forgive me if I think you actually DO think the Beatitudes are uttered by a lunatic. You hold them in extreme disdain apparently.
that's a nice new asshole you tore open for cypress.
:cheers:
 
but we have it.

hallelujah.

so Jesus brought confucianism to the west.

I say it's Buddhism but whatever.

confucianism is a state religion based on a hierarchy, so of course your dumbass thinks it's' the bees knees.

Buddhism and taoism are both better than confucianism and that's what Jesus taught.

confucianism suck balls.
You look schizophrenic when you claim the New Testament is a pack of lies written by men who intended to deceive, and then turn around and say it deserves to be an object of veneration and reverence.
 
You look schizophrenic when you claim the New Testament is a pack of lies written by men who intended to deceive, and then turn around and say it deserves to be an object of veneration and reverence.
that's what you keep saying.

I keep saying the golden rule is the most important thing and the rest hardly matters.
 
While we can agree that the divinity stories came after the fact, there should be no doubt that many of the events from Palm Sunday and the following week happened as described.

The resurrection could have happened if Jesus had survived the crucifixion....although I doubt he'd be walking around due to the wounds.
Sure. I think Jesus was an actual person on Earth and he was killed.

If he somehow survived his injuries, which is very unlikely, then you'd think he would have been recognized by a ton of people and he would have died (again) later on, right?

I guess he could have gone into hiding.
 
Jesus was a Jew, but more importantly your claim is that the New Testament is a pack of lies written by men who intended to deceive. So what's your proof that Jesus actually said this?
but he said their laws were dumb and the golden rule should be the whole of the law, and so they killed him.

He's critical of the Judaism religion though yes he is Jewish.

it's something dumb people like you don't get.

:truestory:
 
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