Biden Admin Cuts Off Life-saving Aid to Palestinians Based on Israeli Allegations
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I lived blocks away from the US PLO headquarters. My neighbors were Persian, Arab, and Turks. We all worked for the jews who made our union contract to be negotiated right before Christmas so no one would strike. They also instigated a race war during contract talks. They lack humanity.
I'll take that as a Yes.
And there's also the huge gap between the number of innocent Israelis killed by terrorists on O7 to the number of innocent Palestinians killed by the IDF and the Israeli military in response.
The Israeli response has claimed several x more Palestinian lives than Israeli lives lost on O7.
T. A. Gardner
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Since when did a response to an attack in warfare have to be proportional? The whole idea of warfare, if you want to win on the cheap, is to make an overwhelming response that devastates your enemy. That's how wars work.
THIS is how you fight wars...
Like they are in charge. Israel controls them.
First of all, this is not a "war". There has been no formal declaration and the Palestinian terrorists are not a formal army, navy or air force. Therefore, traditional strategies of war should not be applicable.
Second of all, who in the fuck besides you, uses some cornball Hollywood movie to justify the slaughtering of civilians?
Israel's response to the attack by Hamas is like expelling an entire classroom of kids from school for life because one of the kids brought a gun and shot the custodian.
I think Nuttin-yahoo is enjoying the death toll a little too much.
T. A. Gardner
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It is a war. Not all wars are declared, nor do they have to be. War is normally conducted between two political entities (eg., governments or rulers). Here, the two are Israel a nation, and Hamas, the government of Gaza. That Hamas has no regular military is their fault, but they come close. They have uniforms, and that is sufficient to make them a formal military.
See that green headband with Arabic writing on it? That is sufficient to make them officially a military. It's no different than these:
Britain's Home Guard (Local Defense Volunteer / LDV) 1940
German Volkssturm 1945
Got me, but you use nothing but personal opinion to back up your cornball ideas.
Too bad for Hamas and the Palestinians.
It is a war. Not all wars are declared, nor do they have to be. War is normally conducted between two political entities (eg., governments or rulers). Here, the two are Israel a nation, and Hamas, the government of Gaza. That Hamas has no regular military is their fault, but they come close. They have uniforms, and that is sufficient to make them a formal military.
See that green headband with Arabic writing on it? That is sufficient to make them officially a military. It's no different than these:
Britain's Home Guard (Local Defense Volunteer / LDV) 1940
German Volkssturm 1945
Got me, but you use nothing but personal opinion to back up your cornball ideas.
Too bad for Hamas and the Palestinians.
Israel has an army, navy, air force and their equivalent of our marines.
Hamas has guerilla fighters.
Hardly a formal military.
But that is beside the point, which is that Israel's response has been too extreme and lacking regard for innocent people.
That's why I suspect Nuttin-yahoo is deriving some deep-seated satisfaction from it.
Plus, and I forgot that I wanted to bring this up in my previous response, had the Nuttin-yahoo government done it's job and performed its duty on that day, the attack would have been turned back before it even got started.
Like with 9/11 during the Bush administration, the Israeli government was warned in advance that Hamas was cooking up something, but they didn't take it seriously.
Maybe on purpose. Maybe Israel wanted an excuse to slaughter Palestinians in Gaza, so they ignored the warnings and let October 7 happen.
So 1,000+ Israeli citizens, and tens of thousands of Palestinian civilians have been killed because Nuttin-yahoo & co were asleep on the job.
And you're OK with it.
Great.
Palestinians found (yesterday or today) a mass grave in northern Gaza after the IGF was pulled out.
And extremist Israelis have been attacking and harassing Palestinians also.
Israel has done a good job portraying itself as nothing more than a helpless victim.
But I have always been of the firm belief that there are two sides to every story and this one's no different.
T. A. Gardner
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Seems to me Hamas has had decades to get better at fighting wars and haven't. That's on them. Their incompetence is no excuse for their being stomped on for starting a war.
Only if you believe that wars should be fought where they're 'fair and equal.' I think wars should be fought to be won and the losing side should be utterly stomped on in the process.
In neither case, any more than say, Pearl Harbor, is that remotely true.
Yep, I'm okay with it. More than once I've said "I want a winner. I want the outcome where Israel and the Palestinians never fight another war. I want this one to be the last war they fight." Is that so wrong?
It takes hundreds of billions of dollars per year to fund and maintain a modern military.
And though I know you right-winger types love to use put downs and derision as a tactic against all perceived enemies, incompetence is not a reason for the inequities between Israel and Hamas.
I never said anything about "fair and equal". But western militaries always try to minimize civilian casualties. Israel doesn't appear to be concerned with such trivialities in this instance.
The civilian population of Palestine are not the enemy here.
You have no idea whether it is or not. Yet you probably believe that the 2020 election was stolen from Trump, Biden is the head of a crime family and 9/11 was orchestrated by the US government.
If it means wiping out tens of thousands of civilians who had nothing to do with any terrorist attacks then yes, it's wrong to support wiping out tens of thousands of civilians who had nothing to do with any terrorist attacks.
You shouldn't need to have that explained to you, but then again, you shouldn't need to have it explained to you why Trump is a dangerous lunatic who should be in prison and nowhere near the White House ever again.
I truly hope they do get rid of the Israeli version of Trump.
It's Biden who is sending 2000 pound bombs to Bibi.
Biden isn’t telling Bibi to use them. Biden is not happy with Bibi’s actions.
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