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Celticguy said:
That ship sailed decades ago. But it certainly was a thing of beauty. Ed O not so beautifil but he pulled it all together and pissed off Saban. That was sweet!
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Nah, the ship is leaving dock everyday in the SEC;

"We probably should have known this LSU football team was destined for greatness last August with the explosive revelation that an LSU booster named John Paul Funes had pleaded guilty to embezzling more than $800,000 dollars from a hospital charitable foundation"

"Among the reasons Funes got caught? He had directed $180,000 of the foundation’s money to the father of Vadal Alexander, an LSU offensive lineman at the time, as part of a scheme to make it appear as though the father was working for the foundation."

"On Monday, the Tigers he loved so much he almost certainly broke NCAA rules to help will play Clemson for the national championship. Hey, if you’re not cheating, you’re not trying."

https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...looked-tigers-play-national-title/4434233002/
 
Bull Durham said:
I'll reiterate, without all of the confusing history stuff, that you do not speak for the men who built the CSA. Every single thing you say, in contradiction to what they said and did, is a lie.

You say that the CSA was not the aggressor, yet they attacked first.

You and your ilk claim that slavery was not the cause for secession, yet the nation's VP stated otherwise, as did the various states during their ratification of secession.

Every single thing you have said about the CSA and the civil war has been a lie.
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I reiterate, you do not speak for those of us that know history and are willing to tell the truth about it.

You say the Union was not the aggressor yet those refused to let those go peacefully that wanted to go peacefully. I reiterate, it's not aggression when you defend yourself against those that refuse to let you go.

You say you're for freedom when it comes to those that were held as slaves yet you opposed freedom when those that wanted to leave decided to do so. Which one is it, n-l. Do you support freedom or oppose it? You can have it both ways.
 
CFM said:
I reiterate, you do not speak for those of us that know history and are willing to tell the truth about it.

You say the Union was not the aggressor yet those refused to let those go peacefully that wanted to go peacefully. I reiterate, it's not aggression when you defend yourself against those that refuse to let you go.

You say you're for freedom when it comes to those that were held as slaves yet you opposed freedom when those that wanted to leave decided to do so. Which one is it, n-l. Do you support freedom or oppose it? You can have it both ways.
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It did not go peacefully, you lying sack of Democrat shit. Clearly, you do not know any history.
 
Bull Durham said:
It did not go peacefully, you lying sack of Democrat shit. Clearly, you do not know any history.
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Sure they did. They voted on secession and went peacefully. You're confusing defending yourself against someone trying to stop you and being aggressive. You can't fight BACK unless the other side did something first.
 
CFM said:
Sure they did. They voted on secession and went peacefully. You're confusing defending yourself against someone trying to stop you and being aggressive. You can't fight BACK unless the other side did something first.
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You can fight back if someone attacks you. It was a pretty stupid thing for the CSA to attack America after its peaceful secession. Makes you question whether they really wanted to have a separate nationality.
 
Bull Durham said:
You can fight back if someone attacks you. It was a pretty stupid thing for the CSA to attack America after its peaceful secession. Makes you question whether they really wanted to have a separate nationality.
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You can fight back when you want to leave and someone is trying to keep you from doing so.

What's stupid is you think that someone can't leave because you oppose them doing so.

Did you support the colonists leaving British rule?
 
CFM said:
You can fight back when you want to leave and someone is trying to keep you from doing so.

What's stupid is you think that someone can't leave because you oppose them doing so.

Did you support the colonists leaving British rule?
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You claiming the Southern States didn't have Congressman and Senators representation in Congress.
"No taxation without representation" ,was what the colonist had to deal with.
That didn't apply to the Southern States.
Fact is the Southern States took part in the 1860 election,didn't like the outcome,and insanely followed SC into succession.Losing all "Southern honor".
Then got there ass kicked,and still today still crying.
 
Miss Margot Frank said:
You claiming the Southern States didn't have Congressman and Senators representation in Congress.
"No taxation without representation" ,was what the colonist had to deal with.
That didn't apply to the Southern States.
Fact is the Southern States took part in the 1860 election,didn't like the outcome,and insanely followed SC into succession.Losing all "Southern honor".
Then got there ass kicked,and still today still crying.
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If you think secession was about the election of 1860 alone, you're an idiot.

The colonists leaving British rule wasn't entirely about "no taxation without representation".

Do you consider the colonists traitors?

Do you know more slaves were held under the U.S. flag than the Confederacy?
 
CFM said:
If you think secession was about the election of 1860 alone, you're an idiot.

The colonists leaving British rule wasn't entirely about "no taxation without representation".

Do you consider the colonists traitors?

Do you know more slaves were held under the U.S. flag than the Confederacy?
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The war wasn't about slavery till the Emancipation proclamation
 
CFM said:
You can fight back when you want to leave and someone is trying to keep you from doing so.

What's stupid is you think that someone can't leave because you oppose them doing so.

Did you support the colonists leaving British rule?
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Who said they couldn't leave? Buchanan certainly never said such a thing. It wasn't until after the CSA attacked America that it was suddenly called an unlawful rebellion.
 
Bull Durham said:
Who said they couldn't leave? Buchanan certainly never said such a thing. It wasn't until after the CSA attacked America that it was suddenly called an unlawful rebellion.
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If the Southern States had petitioned Congress to leave that would be a different matter.
But if you take part in a national election,then quit because you don't like the outcome.
That's beneath contempt.
The mistake was made after the war by not confiscating and resettling all the land owned by Confederate soldiers and politicians.
And even that is going easy.
The whole damn bunch of them should have been hanged starting with R.E.Lee!
The Founding Fathers knew if the Revolution had failed they all would have been round up and hanged.
 
MASON said:
If the Southern States had petitioned Congress to leave that would be a different matter.
But if you take part in a national election,then quit because you don't like the outcome.
That's beneath contempt.
The mistake was made after the war by not confiscating and resettling all the land owned by Confederate soldiers and politicians.
And even that is going easy.
The whole damn bunch of them should have been hanged starting with R.E.Lee!
The Founding Fathers knew if the Revolution had failed they all would have been round up and hanged.
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Clearly, nullification is/was unconstitutional, and it warranted being put down by force, as Andrew Jackson threatened to do. Secession, while obviously the move of a losing faction, does not pretend to operate unconstitutionally within the union. It's a much easier act to justify. Frankly, I don't think it would have become viewed as an inherently illegal act if the south had actually seceded peacefully.
 
Bull Durham said:
Clearly, nullification is/was unconstitutional, and it warranted being put down by force, as Andrew Jackson threatened to do. Secession, while obviously the move of a losing faction, does not pretend to operate unconstitutionally within the union. It's a much easier act to justify. Frankly, I don't think it would have become viewed as an inherently illegal act if the south had actually seceded peacefully.
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The only way to secede peacefully,is thru the legal system,starting with a petition to Congress.
The choice the South chose was Treason,and felony thief.They tried to steal the Southern States.
Louisiana stole Arms from the US Arsenal.
Which triggered Sherman to resign from President of LSU.
 
MASON said:
The only way to secede peacefully,is thru the legal system,starting with a petition to Congress.
The choice the South chose was Treason,and felony thief.They tried to steal the Southern States.
Louisiana stole Arms from the US Arsenal.
Which triggered Sherman to resign from President of LSU.
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The states are not the property of the national government. Federal facilities within states, such as bases, parks, and complexes, would still remain national possessions until such time as deals and/or concessions could be arranged. The CSA decided not to wait, and attacked Ft Sumter.
 
Bull Durham said:
The states are not the property of the national government. Federal facilities within states, such as bases, parks, and complexes, would still remain national possessions until such time as deals and/or concessions could be arranged. The CSA decided not to wait, and attacked Ft Sumter.
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Like the Federal arsenal Louisiana stole weapons from,even before the left the Union?
 
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