Bragg Prosecution Still Fails to Show and Prove the "Underlying Crime"

[Jarod]

Instead, the ridiculous prosecution "suggested" three " possible crimes" , that the judge said they do not have to agree on to convict..

OUTRAGEOUS PROSECUTORIAL AND JUDICIAL MISCONDUCT.

If I charged someone in Florida with "Assault with a deadly weapon" and the facts are that he had a gun, a baseball bat and a knife when he threatened the other person. I do not have to state which weapon is the one that triggered the enhancement.

The Jury can find that any one of those weapons meets the requirement. You see how that works? The prosecutor does not have to say specifically it was the gun, and he should not say specifically, because what if the defense puts evidence in that the gun 'might' have been a plastic toy..... The case is lost even though the perp had a knife and a baseball bat.

Its very hard to educate someone who does not want to understand.

 

[TOP]

Yep. It's a clown show in an attempt to subvert a free and fair election by removing a candidate chosen by the people.

100%

 

[TOP]

If I charged someone in Florida with "Assault with a deadly weapon" and the facts are that he had a gun, a baseball bat and a knife when he threatened the other person. I do not have to state which weapon is the one that triggered the enhancement.

The Jury can find that any one of those weapons meets the requirement. You see how that works? The prosecutor does not have to say specifically it was the gun, and he should not say specifically, because what if the defense puts evidence in that the gun 'might' have been a plastic toy..... The case is lost even though the perp had a knife and a baseball bat.

Its very hard to educate someone who does not want to understand.

So What does the jury have in this case? No gun no knife no baseball bat...

 

[ExpressLane]

Instead, the ridiculous prosecution "suggested" three " possible crimes" , that the judge said they do not have to agree on to convict..

OUTRAGEOUS PROSECUTORIAL AND JUDICIAL MISCONDUCT.

Yep the Supreme Court has already ruled that Juries have to be unanimous on every element of the conviction.

 

[Jarod]

So What does the jury have in this case? No gun no knife no baseball bat...

To extend the metaphor in this case they have a list given to them by the prosecution. FEC laws, Tax laws, and Banking regulations...

 

[QP!]

lol....gas station clerks posing as armchair lawyers should switch to premium fuel........the prosecutor IS required to charge lesser included offenses and to prove them beyond a reasonable doubt......it is required by the US constitution......

And yet you are wrong...

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To convict Trump, Merchan told the jury they will have to find unanimously — that is, all 12 jurors must agree — that the former president created a fraudulent entry in his company’s records or caused someone else to do so, and that he did so with the intent of committing or concealing another crime.

What’s being distorted by some online is the judge’s instruction about how to reach a verdict about that second element.

Prosecutors say the crime Trump committed or hid is a violation of a New York election law making it illegal for two or more conspirators “to promote or prevent the election of any person to a public office by unlawful means.”

Merchan gave the jurors three possible “unlawful means”: falsifying other business records, breaking the Federal Election Campaign Act or submitting false information on a tax return.

For a conviction, each juror would have to find that at least one of those three things happened, but they don’t have to agree unanimously which it was....
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...oh, and stupid.

 

[QP!]

So What does the jury have in this case? No gun no knife no baseball bat...

You have been shown what the jury has in this case that is the equivlaent of the gun, knife or bat...

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Merchan gave the jurors three possible “unlawful means”: falsifying other business records, breaking the Federal Election Campaign Act or submitting false information on a tax return.

For a conviction, each juror would have to find that at least one of those three things happened, but they don’t have to agree unanimously which it was.......

But you guys are stupid so you cannot comprehend it.

 

[TOP]

You have been shown what the jury has in this case that is the equivlaent of the gun, knife or bat...


But you guys are stupid so you cannot comprehend it.

Not even close...that Poor jury is totally overwhelmed... And confused... by all this nonsense...

 

[QP!]

Yep the Supreme Court has already ruled that Juries have to be unanimous on every element of the conviction.

And yet cases like this proceed ALL THE TIME and hold up on appeal.

So just like your idiocy on 'Clinton Socks Case', you simply cannot understand the laws you read.

You idiots did the same in the Letisha James convictions of Trump org, claiming it was unconstitutional and not lawful despite it being a 'bread and butter case', meaning the most common type of conviction.

 

[QP!]

Not even close...that Poor jury is totally overwhelmed... And confused... by all this nonsense...

the only one overwhelmed is you, so stop projecting and speaking for others.

You asked Jarod for something comparable to his three elements (gun, knife, bat) and were given three exactly comparable elements in this crime of "...falsifying other business records, breaking the Federal Election Campaign Act or submitting false information on a tax return..."

At that point you read it and became totally overwhelmed.

 

[TOP]

the only one overwhelmed is you, so stop projecting and speaking for others.

You asked Jarod for something comparable to his three elements (gun, knife, bat) and were given three exactly comparable elements in this crime of "...falsifying other business records, breaking the Federal Election Campaign Act or submitting false information on a tax return..."

At that point you read it and became totally overwhelmed.

I guess you're not paying attention to what's happening... I understand... Jarod
Turns a blind eye to the facts as well... The jury is clearly overwhelmed and confused...

 

[PostmodernProphet]

If I charged someone in Florida with "Assault with a deadly weapon" and the facts are that he had a gun, a baseball bat and a knife when he threatened the other person. I do not have to state which weapon is the one that triggered the enhancement.

The Jury can find that any one of those weapons meets the requirement. You see how that works? The prosecutor does not have to say specifically it was the gun, and he should not say specifically, because what if the defense puts evidence in that the gun 'might' have been a plastic toy..... The case is lost even though the perp had a knife and a baseball bat.

Its very hard to educate someone who does not want to understand.

the gun the baseball bat and the knife are all deadly weapons under the law of assault........your claim is irrelevant to the Trump case.......lawyers already knew that......absolute idiots might not have already known that.......the Venn Diagram eliminates the possibility you are a lawyer.......

 

[Lionfish]

 

[Nordberg]

This is a NY jury....no need.

Are you saying you think all New Yorkers are the same?

 

[Jarod]

the gun the baseball bat and the knife are all deadly weapons under the law of assault........your claim is irrelevant to the Trump case.......lawyers already knew that......absolute idiots might not have already known that.......the Venn Diagram eliminates the possibility you are a lawyer.......

It is also against the law to break FEC laws, IRS codes, and money laundering.

 

[PostmodernProphet]

It is also against the law to break FEC laws, IRS codes, and money laundering.

odd.....the FEC decided years ago that there weren't any violations.......there have also not been any prosecutions from the IRS,,,,,,,what the fuck is a NY prosecutor doing in this case?......

 

[Crepitus]

isn't it up to a prosecutor to prove beyond a reasonable doubt.......or, at the very least to indict?.......this crap pile didn't do either......

Apparently they did.

 

[PostmodernProphet]

Apparently they did.

no......that is why Marchand will be embarrassed on appeal.......

 

[Poor Richard Saunders]

odd.....the FEC decided years ago that there weren't any violations.......there have also not been any prosecutions from the IRS,,,,,,,what the fuck is a NY prosecutor doing in this case?......

Funny since the DoJ indicted and convicted Cohen for the crime you say didn't exist. The FEC doesn't charge crimes. The FEC can only fine if the board votes to do that. In the case of Trump and campaign violations, the FEC board vote was tied.

 

[SlaveForChrist]

Instead, the ridiculous prosecution "suggested" three " possible crimes" , that the judge said they do not have to agree on to convict..

OUTRAGEOUS PROSECUTORIAL AND JUDICIAL MISCONDUCT.

A jury of his peers appear to have, unanimously, on 34 counts, disagreed with you.