Deal With Climate Change Now, Or America Will Face Unprecedented Southern Immigration

[redfish]

If we take decisive action on Climate Change, and it is successful, we will reduce the unprecedented multitudes of needy people wanting just a chance at a livable existence who will form the millions of Climate Refugees approaching our southern border.

are you really as dumb as you sound? The climate of our planet is controlled by 3 things and man is not one of them: Sunspot activity. the earth's tilt on its axis (which sometimes wobbles a bit), and ocean currents which are not consistent.

CO2 is not a pollutant and even if it was its levels in the atmosphere have not changed since we have been able to measure it.

The only way humans could change the climate would be an all out nuclear war which would block the sun for a long time, but even that would eventually resolve itself.

 

[redfish]

Hello Geeko Sportivo,



Well, I would argue it with anyone who is polite about making their point, but it seems most of the ones who refuse to acknowledge human caused global warming are also very rude about it, so because of the rudeness alone, I won't discuss it with them. To me, it would be like seeing a button on the wall with a sign that says "Push button for insults," and repeatedly pushing the button. Um, no thanks.

And that alone reinforces the popular view that human caused climate change is real. If those who are trying so hard to not believe it, have to get all angry and insulting to support their view, then it must be because they know they don't have the facts on their side. They use the insults as a way to distract from their losing arguments.

Sad.

Here's your chance. post proof that !, the climate is warmer now than 100,000 years ago and 2. that the acts of humans caused it.

We all agree that pollution is bad and must be stopped, and why isn't that enough for you? While you are at it provide proof that pollution causes climate change.

 

[Geeko Sportivo]

Hello Geeko Sportivo,



Same lack of depth shown in those hurtful comments of the right. If one is bereft of a convincing argument - resort to insults!

Their problem is they have allowed it to permeate their thinking.

What begins as knowingly shallow false hurtful insults; ends as deluded thinking upon believing one's own BS.

They make up things about us, which they know they are making up, but then after repeating them enough times, they begin to think the made-up baloney is somehow fact. That's when they lose touch with reality. It is the precise point at which the departure is made.

I'm not sure what to think about whether the Trumptards, or even the Republicans, believe the things they say, OR KNOW BETTER AND JUST SAYING THINGS TO GAIN SENTIMENT AMONG THEMSELVES, OR JUST TRYING TO THROW CHAOS INTO EVERYTHING DELIBERATELY TO GET A RISE OUT OF EVERYONE ELSE.

I was at my weekly practice session last night with my band, and during a break, the drummer started talking politics, and him knowing I am a Democrat, and myself knowing he is a TRUMPTARD, he said, "So you think Biden won, and Trump lost"!

I said, "Yes". And he said "44% of Americans think that Trump won". I told him he was wrong, and that polls indicate that 44% of REPUBLICANS think that Trump won. And he said, "SO that is what the Liberal press wants you to think huh"? I said, "No- that is what Fox News is claiming- and that is your source for news- not mine".

So I told him, "Since you are not even honest with yourself, never discuss politics with me again"!

Another band member who was listening to the conversation told him, "We told you to keep your politics to yourself, and if you don't- YOU CAN TAKE YOUR DRUMS AND BEAT IT"! LOL!

You would have just had to be there to appreciate that look he had on his face!

 

[PoliTalker]

Hello Geeko Sportivo,

I'm not sure what to think about whether the Trumptards, or even the Republicans, believe the things they say, OR KNOW BETTER AND JUST SAYING THINGS TO GAIN SENTIMENT AMONG THEMSELVES, OR JUST TRYING TO THROW CHAOS INTO EVERYTHING DELIBERATELY TO GET A RISE OUT OF EVERYONE ELSE.

I was at my weekly practice session last night with my band, and during a break, the drummer started talking politics, and him knowing I am a Democrat, and myself knowing he is a TRUMPTARD, he said, "So you think Biden won, and Trump lost"!

I said, "Yes". And he said "44% of Americans think that Trump won". I told him he was wrong, and that polls indicate that 44% of REPUBLICANS think that Trump won. And he said, "SO that is what the Liberal press wants you to think huh"? I said, "No- that is what Fox News is claiming- and that is your source for news- not mine".

So I told him, "Since you are not even honest with yourself, never discuss politics with me again"!

Another band member who was listening to the conversation told him, "We told you to keep your politics to yourself, and if you don't- YOU CAN TAKE YOUR DRUMS AND BEAT IT"! LOL!

You would have just had to be there to appreciate that look he had on his face!

So that's why so many of my favorite bands broke up long ago.

 

[Into the Night]

Look at the situation.

What 'situation'?

Look at the long range implications over the next few decades.

Preparing for the Holy predictions the End of the World is Nigh, eh?

The weather is getting erratic.

Define 'erratic'.

The climate is changing.

Climate cannot change. It has to quantitative value that can change.

2016 and 2020 have tied for the hottest years on record.

It is not possible to measure the temperature of the Earth.

If this continues unabated, Central America will become unlivable. Crops won't grow. Water for irrigation will become scarce. It will simply be too hot to work outside.
When sustenance farming and even industrial farming is no longer is possible in Central America, take a wild guess where all those people are going to want to go.

South is not an option.

They will all want to come here.

If you think immigration has been a problem up until now, you ain't seen nuthin yet.

And the usual Doom and Gloom typical of any fundamentalist religion.

The USA needs to take the lead in Climate Change mitigation efforts or we are going to see immigration knocking at our southern border on an unprecedented scale.

We already do, thanks to Biden inviting them in.

Just sayin...

"Bill Gates:

You aren't sayin' anything. You are cutting and pasting.

Well, I mean, that the natural ecosystems die off, things like all the coral reefs.

Coral reefs aren't dying.

I mean that the beaches disappear.

The interface between the sea and the land isn't disappearing.

You have you know trees dying off

We have more trees than ever in the States of America, thanks to farming.

and lots of wildfires.

Maybe the SOTC should do something about it's arsonists.

You have the ability to grow food in the Southern grow food in the Southern part of the U.S. is dramatically reduced.

Guess what's not happening.

For the world, it will create literally tens of millions of climate refugees,

People happily live anywhere from the tropics and the equator all the way to the poles.

because the closer you are to the equator, the more unlivable that it gets.

Why are so many people living there? They like it, that's why.

And so it makes the pandemic look small.

Oh of course. You HAVE to make it look bigger than it really is.

The death rate by the end of the century would be over five times the worst of the — what we have had in this pandemic."

More Doom and Gloom.

"The poorest in the world live near the equator.

No.

And they are subsistence farmers.

No.

And when they don't see that they are able to feed their family, that creates incredible instability and incredible migration.

The equator and the tropics are quite capable of growing food (and a lot of other things!).

And so this will be the world's biggest migration ever, as those areas become unlivable, where they have crop failures and they aren't able to work outdoors."

You DO know why Mexicans take a Siesta, right?

PBS Newhour

PBS Bullshit. Bill Gates Bullshit. Church of Global Warming Bullshit.

 

[Into the Night]

Democrats are the ones with their eyes shut.

True.

Opening America to the rest of the world is so politically correct, so 'we are nice people'.

We are nice people.

The Fact is, our Cities are ALREADY overcrowded. Why do Democrats want to create 'Bombays', 'Shanghais', and 'Jakartas' here?

If Democrats understand that Climate Change is caused by people, why do they want to import MORE people here?

America is no longer an agricultural economy or industrial economy, we're a service economy.

So much for the 'service only economy argument'.

Democrats are stabbing our grandchildren in the back by supporting immigration into the US.

Not just immigration. Illegal immigration. There is nothing wrong with legal immigration.

 

[Into the Night]

Hello Jack,



Well, I don't know about you but I am here because of immigration and I understand there would not be a United States without immigration.

The point is not to increase immigration per se.

The point is to save the habitat.

There's a booming economy to be had doing that - there's the carrot.

And there is a stick, too.

If we don't get this right the entire world will be faced with millions of climate refugees.

It has nothing to do with whether we want them or not.

Either we get climate change under control or they are coming.

This one really is that simple.

Climate cannot change. There is quantity that is changing. Climate has no quantitative value.

 

[Into the Night]

No, the problem is that we are not doing enough to eliminate our contributions to climate change.

We have to address that either way, sooner or later.

If not sooner, then we get the massive refugee problem as well. Above and beyond whatever level of immigration we are seeing now. Added onto that.

Define 'climate change'.

 

[Into the Night]

The predicament Earth finds itself in is of human making.

What predicament is that?

 

[Into the Night]

It's like Smokey the bear, with a new twist:

"Only YOU can prevent climate change"

Define 'climate change'. Climate has no quantitative value. It cannot change.

 

[Into the Night]

Meanwhile, I do believe it was a climate wacko that was setting fires in CA.

Arson is a big problem every year in the SOTC.

 

[Jack]

True.

We are nice people.

If Democrats understand that Climate Change is caused by people, why do they want to import MORE people here?

So much for the 'service only economy argument'.

Not just immigration. Illegal immigration. There is nothing wrong with legal immigration.

So ... you're good with turning our Cities into Mega-Calcuttas ... as long as it's 'legal'?

 

[Into the Night]

So ... you're good with turning our Cities into Mega-Calcuttas ... as long as it's 'legal'?

Cities are less than 1% of the land area, twit.