Deceptive God, Incompetent Messiah

PostmodernProphet said:
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is that the part which says we should pray to Mary?......
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From the Apostles Creed:

I believe in the Holy Spirit, the holy Catholic Church, the communion of saints, the forgiveness of sins, the resurrection of the body, and life everlasting.

Yes, the Apostles believed that their brethren were/are praying for them.
 
post 280 where I answered your video



evince said:
this man is a sociopath

he feels nothing but the feelings for himself


religions saved him because his brain is wired a certain way.

studies in brain wiring show that certain human brains are wired to believe in a higher being ( they will adopt the teachings that are in their society which fill this need)


is there anything wrong with that?


absolutely not


religion does alot of people a lot of good.

It soothes their minds and gives them direction


Not a thing wrong with that


for you and this man to insist that I ,whos brain is not wired to believe in a higher being, described by your religion and HOW YOU THEN INTERPRET THAT INFORMATION are somehow this sociopaths lessor is EVIL


I as atheist can accept your interpitation of how you are able to make sense of existence and merely say "good for you if it keeps you from harming others" and yet you need t SHAME ME AND MY BELIEFS just to retain your own believes is not very decent huh.


YOU BELIEVE WHAT YOU BELIEVE


yet to you I am inferior for not sharing your belief


I believe in reality


I believe what can be proven through actual proof


there is no proof of gods or monsters


its called faith


you believe in god based on faith


you believe that faith comes from god


that's fine


its brain wiring.


this man is not an example of the horrors you pretend are part of atheism


this man is an example of how much harm can from not treating children properly.


the distruction is multiplied when that child has the brain wiring of a sociopath.


Its not their fault

they are no more at fault than a diabetic child is at fault.


children must be treated with decency and care



most people are mostly good


some people are like saints

and some people are complete rat bastards


why is that?


human interaction and brain wiring.


4 in 100 people are sociopaths


3 will be men


1 will be a woman



no matter what religion they profess.


organized religion creates the perfect scaffolding for a sociopath to claim to power


their religious doctrine is all written out for them so they KNOW how to fake caring about others.


when you are an atheist there is no created doctrine that exsits for you to get your cues from to fake caring.


but fortunately humans care

we have been designed by our own ability to proliferate the planet by being caring beings.


humans exists and proliferated because we LOVE and will take in our arms the weak and needy and sacrafice our own comfort and even at times lives to protect and feed and nurture the weak amoung us.


just saying these words makes by body tingle


in your brain wiring you need to explain that with a god.


that is fine

all power to you if it makes you MORE HUMAN


it works for you.


GOOD


I see the world differently


I see no need for this god you need to make sense of the world



I see humans and feel love for them


I sense their goodness and kindness and willingness to sacrifice and feel whole with the world.


I wish you could feel the utter beauty that .

Your brain wiring doesn't make it possible I guess.


that's fine


but don't degrade the beauty of my beliefs to hold your own on high and shame me.



I am as wonderful and awesome as you believe you are.


that guy in your video ?


I hope he stays on the straight and narrow and never hurts people again.


I will never trust him


he could merely be faking it to gain power over others


its his self admitted life pattern.


he was born a sociopath and hasn't really changed


he acts better hopefully


But I was born with a caring heart


I have always cared for others at my own self detriment.


I don't expect it to pay off in this life or anything that may be after this life.


No one is going to reward me for being this way.


My heart repays me


I do it because I cant do otherwise and live in my own skin.


No god needed for me in that equation


I am in fact just one of the mostly good people who walk this earth.


I dream of being saint like but know it will never be.


and let me clarify

I don't believe in saints but I do believe in people so GOOD that they can move the souls of other humans to be the best human they can muster by whatever beliefs they may conjour in their minds.



I do feel pride that I am one of the people who sees the goodness in mankind and why are brains are wired to help.


we are wonderful beings and need to nurture and help each other even if are brains are wired differently and view a path to goodness in differing ways




wont you join me?
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evince said:
that guy on your tape fully intended to kill his father.


he cant be a christian huh
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He was not a Christian when he tried to kill his father. When he became a Christian, God forgave him for that. Are you completely ignorant about the concept of grace and forgiveness?
 
Anyway, I'll never be able to take any of the thousands of so-called churches seriously which are removed from Christ and the apostles by 1500+ years. Only one Church and one authority was established in the Bible.
 
The Ugly Truth said:
He was not a Christian when he tried to kill his father. When he became a Christian, God forgave him for that. Are you completely ignorant about the concept of grace and forgiveness?
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so someone can kill millions and just say "hey god" and alls good?


but a person who has helped and saved lives all their life go to hell and suffer FOREVER ?


what a horrible thing this god you pretend to believe is
 
TUT,


you ever going to answer post 280

I watched your entire video

then I answered you and you lied about me and slandered me instead of responding like a decent human
 
evince said:
this man is a sociopath

he feels nothing but the feelings for himself


religions saved him because his brain is wired a certain way.

studies in brain wiring show that certain human brains are wired to believe in a higher being ( they will adopt the teachings that are in their society which fill this need)


is there anything wrong with that?


absolutely not


religion does alot of people a lot of good.

It soothes their minds and gives them direction


Not a thing wrong with that


for you and this man to insist that I ,whos brain is not wired to believe in a higher being, described by your religion and HOW YOU THEN INTERPRET THAT INFORMATION are somehow this sociopaths lessor is EVIL


I as atheist can accept your interpitation of how you are able to make sense of existence and merely say "good for you if it keeps you from harming others" and yet you need t SHAME ME AND MY BELIEFS just to retain your own believes is not very decent huh.


YOU BELIEVE WHAT YOU BELIEVE


yet to you I am inferior for not sharing your belief


I believe in reality


I believe what can be proven through actual proof


there is no proof of gods or monsters


its called faith


you believe in god based on faith


you believe that faith comes from god


that's fine


its brain wiring.


this man is not an example of the horrors you pretend are part of atheism


this man is an example of how much harm can from not treating children properly.


the distruction is multiplied when that child has the brain wiring of a sociopath.


Its not their fault

they are no more at fault than a diabetic child is at fault.


children must be treated with decency and care



most people are mostly good


some people are like saints

and some people are complete rat bastards


why is that?


human interaction and brain wiring.


4 in 100 people are sociopaths


3 will be men


1 will be a woman



no matter what religion they profess.


organized religion creates the perfect scaffolding for a sociopath to claim to power


their religious doctrine is all written out for them so they KNOW how to fake caring about others.


when you are an atheist there is no created doctrine that exsits for you to get your cues from to fake caring.


but fortunately humans care

we have been designed by our own ability to proliferate the planet by being caring beings.


humans exists and proliferated because we LOVE and will take in our arms the weak and needy and sacrafice our own comfort and even at times lives to protect and feed and nurture the weak amoung us.


just saying these words makes by body tingle


in your brain wiring you need to explain that with a god.


that is fine

all power to you if it makes you MORE HUMAN


it works for you.


GOOD


I see the world differently


I see no need for this god you need to make sense of the world



I see humans and feel love for them


I sense their goodness and kindness and willingness to sacrifice and feel whole with the world.


I wish you could feel the utter beauty that .

Your brain wiring doesn't make it possible I guess.


that's fine


but don't degrade the beauty of my beliefs to hold your own on high and shame me.



I am as wonderful and awesome as you believe you are.


that guy in your video ?


I hope he stays on the straight and narrow and never hurts people again.


I will never trust him


he could merely be faking it to gain power over others


its his self admitted life pattern.


he was born a sociopath and hasn't really changed


he acts better hopefully


But I was born with a caring heart


I have always cared for others at my own self detriment.


I don't expect it to pay off in this life or anything that may be after this life.


No one is going to reward me for being this way.


My heart repays me


I do it because I cant do otherwise and live in my own skin.


No god needed for me in that equation


I am in fact just one of the mostly good people who walk this earth.


I dream of being saint like but know it will never be.


and let me clarify

I don't believe in saints but I do believe in people so GOOD that they can move the souls of other humans to be the best human they can muster by whatever beliefs they may conjour in their minds.



I do feel pride that I am one of the people who sees the goodness in mankind and why are brains are wired to help.


we are wonderful beings and need to nurture and help each other even if are brains are wired differently and view a path to goodness in differing ways




wont you join me?
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post 280



please respond like a decent person
 
The Ugly Truth said:
He was not a Christian when he tried to kill his father. When he became a Christian, God forgave him for that. Are you completely ignorant about the concept of grace and forgiveness?
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but a child would burn in hell forever because they were born in a differing religion?


so actions are meaningless and morality is meaningless

your religion is only about claiming god
 
The Ugly Truth said:
And just what does that have to do with Salvation?
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What would you know about salvation? The Savior says that if you do not eat of His flesh and drink of His blood, you will not have life within you—and you just ignore His words as paganism. How can you have grace or faith if you ignore your God?
 
why do you refuse to answer my post numbered 280?


you prompted me to watch your 34minute video

repeatedly refuse to answer me


but did slander me and my beliefs


and you lied
 
The Ugly Truth said:
And which Church would that be?
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why do you refuse to answer my post 280?


because it makes you feel for me


and your religion makes you hate me

so much you will lie and slander me and call me names for not being a JW


this type of behavior is proof your beliefs are lacking validity
 
The Ugly Truth said:
That's funny. I thought this thread was discussing Islam. Can't you atheist blowhards stay on topic? Everyone. Please ignore any future attempts to deflect the discussion. This thread is about muslims and what their 'holy' book teaches.
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post 310


very disrespectful


I listened to your 34 minute video and answered you in a heartfelt manner in post 280



this is all you would say

why should anyone EVER listen to you again


your dishonest and unkind
 
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