defining the atheist life....

Cypress said:
I think to some extent it is a problem of language. Words like "natural" and "supranatural" are invented linguistic constructs to format ideas to conform to our limited cognition.

There is nothing in those words which are an actual manifestation of objective reality in and of itself.

Quantum mechanics shows that there can be uncaused causes. The first cause does necessarily not need a cause preceeding that.

That does not have to imply an purposeful design to reality though.

But this is so deep into metaphysics that it is just something we will never understand. Science is mankind's best tool for answering the question "how?" but it has never been equipped to answer the question "why?"
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Agree on your last point. Natural and supernatural have specific meaning in science. Science is equipped to examine one but not the other.
 
BidenPresident said:
Just say what Kant's philosophy is. You keep asserting you know but cannot say anything.
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I spent all day explaining Kant to you but you continue to pretend your ad homs are a rebut. Evince posted an excellent review of Kant and Rand that you snarked more of your hate at.
 
Concart said:
Agree on your last point. Natural and supernatural have specific meaning in science. Science is equipped to examine one but not the other.
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That is true as a dictionary definition of science, but what science means by "natural" is that which we can experience and measure by sensory perception.

That right there indicates that our linguistic construct of "natural" is a purposeful attempt to format concepts and ideas so they fit into and conform to our limited cognition.

Ultimate objective reality doesn't care what our cognitive limitations are. So what we call "natural" is a convenience of formatting information our brains can process.
 
What I found interesting about Kant is his dualism on morals and pleasure. I saw it again with Freud on his cocaine addiction and flagrant adultery with his patients. Around that time I was also reading that monogamy is abnormal. Casual sex was prevalent yet everyone was trying to cancel me for talking about pleasure. They were all christian and didn't want to deal with the facts of human nature.
 
evince said:
Dude


Redeem your self


Don’t be like the right


Admitt your mistake and increase your self esteem

The feeling is great


It will make you a better man
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Thanks for coming to my defense, Evince, I knew I couldn't be too far off on Kant's moral theory.
 
goat said:
Thanks for coming to my defense, Evince, I knew I couldn't be too far off on Kant's moral theory.
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A quick search gave it to me

I’m not studied in the field


I don’t pretend to be an expert in anything


It keeps me grounded


I wanted to see who was correct

And BP wasn’t


Truth is a good thing in any field

I love what’s true

And again welcome to the site
 
evince said:
A quick search gave it to me

I’m not studied in the field


I don’t pretend to be an expert in anything


It keeps me grounded


I wanted to see who was correct

And BP wasn’t


Truth is a good thing in any field

I love what’s true

And again welcome to the site
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I'm an expert at making people butthurt. A lot of thin skin around here.
 
goat said:
It's difficult to have morals with Kant's free will on pleasure.

Btw, Rand was a hypocrite on her version of capitalism.
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I have many philosophy professors talk about Kant and I cannot remember a single one mentioning Kant and sex....at least not as something his intellectual work is known for..

What they do say is Kant's specialty and legacy was in epistemology and moral philosophy.

At any rate, since I am not a philosophy professor, I am going to take Ayn Rand at her word: she despised Kant and thought Kant was worse than Marx. Those are words directly from her mouth. Everything else is opinion.
 
Cypress said:
I have many philosophy professors talk about Kant and I cannot remember a single one mentioning Kant and sex....at least not as something his intellectual work is known for..

What they do say is Kant's specialty and legacy was in epistemology and moral philosophy.

At any rate, since I am not a philosophy professor, I am going to take Ayn Rand at her word: she despised Kant and thought Kant was worse than Marx. Those are words directly from her mouth. Everything else is opinion.
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No matter what Rand said, she was subconsciously influenced by Kant. We see Kant everywhere in our rules today, e.g.--we are not allowed to smoke inside a restaurant because it affects the pleasure of other diners. The individual is not as important as the group. Rand had to be seeing red over this but free trade agreements are supposed to benefit the group as a whole.
 
Aristotle's idea of God is worth considering: "And life also belongs to God; for the actuality of thought is life, and God is that actuality" (Metaphysics, XII, 7).

The actuality of thought is life.
 
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