Did Harris win over the undecideds?

Walt said:
It is amazing to watch Republicans turn on all their ideas, like supply side economics, and then blame Democrats for them.
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I'm against supply side economics... it's corporate cocksucking, aka fascim.

where are you on supply side economics?

how many CEO dicks can you fit in your ass?
 
CIA TOTALITARIANISM said:
you probably think fascism means "america first".

fascism is not nationalism. you probably think that. that's what dumb brainwashed people believe.
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Fascism is an extreme version of nationalism. It is saying that the most important unit of humans is the nation. That we should be nation first...

Saying "America first" is not necessarily fascism, but it sure begins to sound like it.
 
Walt said:
Fascism is an extreme version of nationalism. It is saying that the most important unit of humans is the nation. That we should be nation first...

Saying "America first" is not necessarily fascism, but it sure begins to sound like it.
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no it isn't.


it's just a monolithic union of state and corporate power.

the majority of corporate power today is ANTI-nationalist.

what we have now is Internationalist Fascism.
 
CIA TOTALITARIANISM said:
no it isn't.


it's just a monolithic union of state and corporate power.

the majority of corporate power today is ANTI-nationalist.

what we have now is Internationalist Fascism.
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When fascists say corporate, they do not mean companies. They mean all sub-national groups. So a trade union would be a corporation, a trade group(a group of corporations) would be a corporation, and a town would be a corporation. Fascists try to group everyone and everything into a corporation, so that they can then be grouped into a nation. The nation is the most important group, and is supposed to control the corporations.

If a business corporation is anti-nationalist, then it is out of control of the nation, and would be against fascism. That does not mean they are good, but they are not fascist.

The business councils that trump tried to implement that would have the nation telling corporations what to do would be fascism.

International fascism has always fallen apart because you cannot have multiple nations as the most important nation. This is the reason the far right in the EU has never been able to work together.
 
Walt said:
When fascists say corporate, they do not mean companies. They mean all sub-national groups. So a trade union would be a corporation, a trade group(a group of corporations) would be a corporation, and a town would be a corporation. Fascists try to group everyone and everything into a corporation, so that they can then be grouped into a nation. The nation is the most important group, and is supposed to control the corporations.

If a business corporation is anti-nationalist, then it is out of control of the nation, and would be against fascism. That does not mean they are good, but they are not fascist.

The business councils that trump tried to implement that would have the nation telling corporations what to do would be fascism.

International fascism has always fallen apart because you cannot have multiple nations as the most important nation. This is the reason the far right in the EU has never been able to work together.
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no.

they mean companies.

companies want globalist policies so they can game buy markets on one side and sell markets on the other side without paying tariffs.

companies are internationalist now, so fascism looks different and is globalist now.
 
Walt said:
Harris will get a bump from this debate. Another bump from from the VP debate. Another bump from trump fleeing any further debates, or another bump from trump having another debate. Another bump from the possibility of trump being president really sinking in. Another bump...

Well suffices to say Harris will win the election. Not by as much as she had hoped, but by enough. Then there will be four more years of the party of trump whining how unfair it is, and then Harris will win reelection.
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True. But I think the republican party will begin to do whatever it can to distance themselves from the asshole. He will never again hold public office, he's done nothing but cost them elections since 2016.

If Republicans Want to Win, They Need Trump to Lose — Big​

The best possible outcome in November for the future of the Republican Party is for former President Donald Trump to lose and lose soundly. GOP leaders won’t tell you that on the record. I just did.

Trump will never concede defeat, no matter how thorough his loss. Yet the more decisively Vice President Kamala Harris wins the popular vote and electoral college the less political oxygen he’ll have to reprise his 2020 antics; and, importantly, the faster Republicans can begin building a post-Trump party.
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CIA TOTALITARIANISM said:
no.

they mean companies.

companies want globalist policies so they can game buy markets on one side and sell markets on the other side without paying tariffs.

companies are internationalist now, so fascism looks different and is globalist now.
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Corporatism, which fascism grew out of, talks about corporate groups, which are often not companies.

If companies are internationalists, then the fascists strongly oppose them.
 
Port Tack said:
True. But I think the republican party will begin to do whatever it can to distance themselves from the asshole. He will never again hold public office, he's done nothing but cost them elections since 2016.
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There is a good chance that trump will drive down turnout. Some Republicans would rather not vote at all than vote for either of the top candidates. That will hit down ballot Republican candidates.

Things are shifting, but it is late, which makes any prediction hard. I am almost certain Harris will win, but I don't know if that will translate into winning both houses of Congress.
 
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