Dragging death of Linda Frickey

Did they target the car or the driver? If the driver, then it could be a hate crime. If they only targeted the car, it's not.

The 18 year old deserves life in prison due to his previous criminal history and murder of Frickey but it appears all will face life in prison if convicted.

https://www.wwltv.com/article/news/...rial/289-22596c4d-45fd-41f5-81df-06eca09038ca
Each of the four teens will be tried as an adult and are facing a mandatory life sentence if convicted.

Baker, along with John Honore, 17, Lenyra Theophile, 15, Mar'Qel Curtis, 15, were arrested by the New Orleans Police Department and charged with the crime. Honore, had a lengthy criminal record court records show.

In August, a judge denied bail reductions for the teens which kept them held in jail on a $1 million dollar bond.

The racists call it a "hate crime" because the victim was white and the accused perps are not. I'm not at all surprised to see who posted the OP and who agrees with him, are you?
 
It's unimaginable that some here are trying to explain this away as if their motive was that "they just wanted the car"....They wouldn't have gone after her if she had been a young lady...or a middle aged man...or she looked like their grandmother....

Pfft. They went after her because of the perception that women, esp. older ones, are easy targets. That has nothing to do with hate; it's a crime of opportunity. You want to make it into a racist thing because you are racist. You want to make it into a misogynist thing because you are a misogynist. You want to make it into an elder abuse crime because you are a perpetual victim.
 
Pfft. They went after her because of the perception that women, esp. older ones, are easy targets. That has nothing to do with hate; it's a crime of opportunity. You want to make it into a racist thing because you are racist. You want to make it into a misogynist thing because you are a misogynist. You want to make it into an elder abuse crime because you are a perpetual victim.

The proliferation of "hate crimes" gets sticky real quick. In this case, yes, they probably targeted her because of her age...which is ageism. Is that a hate crime? Not to my knowledge because there are special laws for special people and being old is not always one of them.

That said, in Texas, it's elderly abuse to attack someone 65 or older with a penalty of up to 10 years and a $10K fine. Not sure if it's a "hate crime" per se, but it's clearly a crime. In this case, all four offenders are facing life in prison if convicted. The 18 year old clearly deserves it since he beat the woman. IDK if he was the driver, but the driver is clearly guilty of murder. Anyone, literally, "just along for the ride", are guilty by association with a felony crime but I don't see a life sentence for them as being fair.

Mandatory sentencing laws, which this one falls under with the life sentence, are not always just. Sure, the idea is to prevent judge bias in sentencing but the result is often harsher sentences for people than they deserve as in this case if all four are convicted.
 
Phan, you groaned my post first then you asked the question. What would you call it if not condemning me first then getting the facts second?
I did groan the post. I do not support hanging four black teenagers. Did you stop to think before typing that?
 
I did groan the post. I do not support hanging four black teenagers. Did you stop to think before typing that?
Thanks for admitting I was correct. :)

IF convicted, I support the maximum penalty. Did you stop to think before groaning the post, Phan? Why not get the facts first then go back and groan all of them as you commonly do?
 
Thanks for admitting I was correct. :)

IF convicted, I support the maximum penalty. Did you stop to think before groaning the post, Phan? Why not get the facts first then go back and groan all of them as you commonly do?
I got the facts, you wish to hang four black teenagers. That is what I groaned.
 
I got the facts, you wish to hang four black teenagers. That is what I groaned.
If convicted, I advocate the maximum penalty for all criminals. The fact you won't admit you groaned first and asked questions second is on you...but it's interesting to see you defend the 1/6 traitors. :)

So all the 1/6 traitors who beat black cops should be prosecuted for hate crimes, anymouse?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/crime/blue-lives-matter-capitol-riot-b1942063.html
Capitol Police officer Harry Dunn, who is Black, said in February that pro-Trump rioters shouted racial slurs at him and beat other officers with Blue Lives Matter flags.

He told ABC News that he remembered telling another officer on 6 January: “I got called a [N-word] a couple dozen times today protecting this building. Is this America? They beat police officers with Blue Lives Matter flags. They fought us, they had Confederate flags in the US Capitol.”
Yep

I'm good with it. Hang'em all.
"Context is everything". https://www.health.org.uk/sites/default/files/PerspectivesOnContextBateContextIsEverything.pdf
 
If convicted, I advocate the maximum penalty for all criminals. The fact you won't admit you groaned first and asked questions second is on you...but it's interesting to see you defend the 1/6 traitors. :)

"Context is everything". https://www.health.org.uk/sites/default/files/PerspectivesOnContextBateContextIsEverything.pdf

I’m not having an endless back and forth with you as others do when you misrepresent their comments and level your false accusations. You play with yourself, I’m done with you.
 
I’m not having an endless back and forth with you as others do when you misrepresent their comments and level your false accusations. You play with yourself, I’m done with you.
You're the groaner, Phan, who denied you groaned first and asked questions second. I put the posts in context. What people think of them is up to them.
 
The racists call it a "hate crime" because the victim was white and the accused perps are not. I'm not at all surprised to see who posted the OP and who agrees with him, are you?
As always the wokerati has to make this , like everything else, about race. Never did I mention race of the victim or the murderer. Only the wokerati here.
You are 100% obsessed with race.
Sorry if the monsters that did this happened to be New Orleans thugs and ho’s but that’s exactly what the woke do - sympathize with violent criminals on one condition… they happen to be black.

Hate comes in many forms yet you seem to think it’s only form is white hatred of blacks.
If a human , any human, beats and kicks a helpless person with no provocation then drags that person to death, that is pure evil hatred no matter the race of the victim or the animal that did it.
I know this will never be classified as a hate crime - it’s N.O, as the esteemed former mayor and inmate No. 32751-034 has deemed N.O a “chocolate city”.
There’s different rules there. It’s a third world banana republic shithole run by perpetually corrupt mayors, city councils, and NOPD, which BTW, has been directly involved in the murder of an Asian run convenient store owners .
 
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I got the facts, you wish to hang four black teenagers. That is what I groaned.

If Oom opted for humanely euthanizing them, would you be cool with it then?
Oom tends to be a tad old fashioned, but I'm down with lethal injection if preceded by anesthesia.
Hanging is for portraits of relatives who are already dead.
 
If Oom opted for humanely euthanizing them, would you be cool with it then?
Oom tends to be a tad old fashioned, but I'm down with lethal injection if preceded by anesthesia.
Hanging is for portraits of relatives who are already dead.

Sometimes the most serious questions are the ones most resolutely ignored.
If we take the cruelty out of excising our unrehabilitatable from society, isn't then the best thing to do?,
 
Rephrase please.

Execution is punishment.

Preceding a lethal injection with anesthesia
changes execution to euthanasia
which isn't painful and isn't punishment.

It's what we do to beloved pets when they're hopelessly ill
and it's what we should have access to for ourselves when we have no quality of life remaining.

Isn't euthanizing our non-rehabilitatable criminally insane far better than keeping them in a cage
until they die of natural causes or are killed by other inmates?

People who drag somebody to death need to be euthanized for the expediency of society at large,
and it's not a cruel thing to do as execution would be.
 
If Oom opted for humanely euthanizing them, would you be cool with it then?
Oom tends to be a tad old fashioned, but I'm down with lethal injection if preceded by anesthesia.
Hanging is for portraits of relatives who are already dead.
I do not support the death penalty. I prefer the murderers spend their lives regretting their decisions that put them in a cage for life. I would require pictures of their victims to be hung in their cells.
 
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