Emmett Till / Trayvon Martin - An Awakening to Racist Evil in America

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Default Emmett Till / Trayvon Martin - An Awakening to Racist Evil in America





The victory in the murder of Emmett Till in 1955 was that it was the catalyst that inspired one of the most dramatic social changes the world has ever known in the Civil Rights movement in America. On the world stage, It torn a giant hole in the facade of America as a land of justice, freedom, and opportunity. American racism was once again exposed for all the world to see .. and the bravery of Mamie Till to leave the casket of her son open for all the world to see left no doubt about the horrors innocent people had to endure in this land of monsters.



The monsters that did this walked free, declared 'innocent.'

Today, nearly 60 years later, another all-white southern jury declares another murderer of another black boy free and 'innocent' on the world stage .. and once again, the monsters celebrate .. and once again, American evil is exposed to all the world.

It took 364 years for African-Americans to gain basic human rights in this so-called 'land of the free.'

364 years of horrors, oppression, and terrorism before being granted second-class citizenship in America.

The glaring message of the Martin trial .. in spite of the Civil Rights Act, and in spite of a black president, African-Americans are still second-class citizens in a country we've been in for 400 years.

African-Americans we are, and will always remain. Something more of us need to teach our children.


Cognitive Dissonance is a powerful mindfuck. It transfixes it's host with the terror of inconvenient truth .. the brain becomes motionless .. and all avenues to critical thought are blocked.

Even science no longer makes sense.


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Against my better judgement I read some of the thread. I didn't remember calling Onceler dogshit, I feel really bad about that. (I"m sorry!) But OTOH I made some really good posts on that thread. I remember talking to SF in PM and trying to get him to come down a little. I think it worked if you read the thread.

The really important thing about that thread IMO, is how much worse things have gotten since then. Racially speaking we are in a lot of trouble in this country. I feel that Trump has capitalized on it. To me this is a frightening time.
 
Darla said:
Against my better judgement I read some of the thread. I didn't remember calling Onceler dogshit, I feel really bad about that. (I"m sorry!) But OTOH I made some really good posts on that thread. I remember talking to SF in PM and trying to get him to come down a little. I think it worked if you read the thread.

The really important thing about that thread IMO, is how much worse things have gotten since then. Racially speaking we are in a lot of trouble in this country. I feel that Trump has capitalized on it. To me this is a frightening time.
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I'm not going to read it. I like things the way they are now, but always welcome BAC's return.
 
Rana said:
I'm not going to read it. I like things the way they are now, but always welcome BAC's return.
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I didn't read it all, it was very impassioned. I didn't get angry again at anyone while reading the posts I did go through. At all. I didn't have to fight getting angry, the feelings just didn't arise. The only thing is that it saddens me remembering it because somehow I thought things in this country (not on the board, putting aside all personalities here, that's not the important part to me) from there, and they've gotten so much worse. And now we have Trump.
 
I read some of it. I was much more polite back then, that's probably around the time when you guys sent me off the rails and I realized how morally bankrupt you all are.
 
Rana said:
I'm not going to read it. I like things the way they are now, but always welcome BAC's return.
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he guest visited DCJ a couple weeks (month) back. I think he's working mentoring black youth, and supporting Jill Stein.
It would be good to hear from him again - I respect the heck out of him and his "principled stance"
 
In between a lot of negative stuff, there was actually a lot of great discussion on that thread. I skimmed some of it, but it really did get too ugly (my bad on that). I really respect the posters I got into it the most with, even BAC, though he is definitely someone who drove me bananas, too.
 
Darla said:
Against my better judgement I read some of the thread. I didn't remember calling Onceler dogshit, I feel really bad about that. (I"m sorry!) But OTOH I made some really good posts on that thread. I remember talking to SF in PM and trying to get him to come down a little. I think it worked if you read the thread.

The really important thing about that thread IMO, is how much worse things have gotten since then. Racially speaking we are in a lot of trouble in this country. I feel that Trump has capitalized on it. To me this is a frightening time.
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I was thinking the same thing watching that OJ documentary recently. That verdict was crazy, and a real eye opener to me. I remember I didn't follow the case that closely (I think I was one of about 4 people who didn't), and didn't know what to think of the verdict. Then, I saw the reactions on TV, and it was so weird - rooms full of both black & white people, where blacks were absolutely jubilant, and whites looked completely hopeless and stricken.

They covered that a lot in the documentary. Many in the black community didn't even care about whether OJ was guilty or innocent. The trial had become about Mark Fuhrman for them, and seeing another black man set up by a racist cop. And I kind of got it, listening to some people talk about it. It was like, we (whites) freaked out because ONE TIME, a black guy seemed to have gotten away w/ murder. Some black leaders were just like, "welcome to our world"...because that was just par for the course in that community. Actually getting justice was the anomoly.

We need to listen to that, and to what BLM is saying. I think that's something I didn't get at the time of the BAC thread. There is something going on there that most of us just aren't privy to, and that is hard to understand because our experience is so different.

But yeah - if anything it's gotten worse. I don't know if race is an issue that we'll ever really get past.
 
Well, at least the bastard got himself imprisoned for something else. My biggest problem with OJ is that he had the life most people would desire, and burned-it down with his massive hubris. If a gangster from South Central commits a double homicide, at least there isn't that sense of "why would you do this to yourself?"

I also missed everything before the verdict, and learned most of it afterward.
 
Establishment said:
Well, at least the bastard got himself imprisoned for something else. My biggest problem with OJ is that he had the life most people would desire, and burned-it down with his massive hubris. If a gangster from South Central commits a double homicide, at least there isn't that sense of "why would you do this to yourself?"

I also missed everything before the verdict, and learned most of it afterward.
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That documentary is one of the best I've seen on anything. It's worth it if you have the time (it's a 5-parter).
 
Thing1 said:
I was thinking the same thing watching that OJ documentary recently. That verdict was crazy, and a real eye opener to me. I remember I didn't follow the case that closely (I think I was one of about 4 people who didn't), and didn't know what to think of the verdict. Then, I saw the reactions on TV, and it was so weird - rooms full of both black & white people, where blacks were absolutely jubilant, and whites looked completely hopeless and stricken.

They covered that a lot in the documentary. Many in the black community didn't even care about whether OJ was guilty or innocent. The trial had become about Mark Fuhrman for them, and seeing another black man set up by a racist cop. And I kind of got it, listening to some people talk about it. It was like, we (whites) freaked out because ONE TIME, a black guy seemed to have gotten away w/ murder. Some black leaders were just like, "welcome to our world"...because that was just par for the course in that community. Actually getting justice was the anomoly.

We need to listen to that, and to what BLM is saying. I think that's something I didn't get at the time of the BAC thread. There is something going on there that most of us just aren't privy to, and that is hard to understand because our experience is so different.

But yeah - if anything it's gotten worse. I don't know if race is an issue that we'll ever really get past.
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If Fuhrman had fucked things up, by trying to bend the rules of evidence, there's a good chance OJ would have been convicted.

I remember all the march's that were held, where whites were chanting "NO JUSTICE - NO PEACE" and then looted and burned down a bunch of businesses. :palm:
 
Thing1 said:
That documentary is one of the best I've seen on anything. It's worth it if you have the time (it's a 5-parter).
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it was very good. I saw last two parts on a plane flight. Some of the jury pissed me off tho. One legit said it was just payback
 
Thing1 said:
In between a lot of negative stuff, there was actually a lot of great discussion on that thread. I skimmed some of it, but it really did get too ugly (my bad on that). I really respect the posters I got into it the most with, even BAC, though he is definitely someone who drove me bananas, too.
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why did you pretend I called you a racist for days


go read the thread


I didnt until AFTER you kept claiming I did and kept insisting the young black woman witness was meaningless for no reason .



you were on the side of the racists


you trashed us all
 
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