Gallup: More Americans Don't Want Reps To Vote For Raising Ceiling

Annie

Annie

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In their own words...

http://www.gallup.com/poll/148547/Own-Words-Americans-Views-Raising-Debt-Ceiling.aspx#1

July 18, 2011
In Their Own Words: Americans' Views on Raising Debt Ceiling
More than 700 Americans explain their position on the debt ceiling issue
by Frank Newport
Page: 123

PRINCETON, NJ -- Gallup finds that Americans, by a 42% to 22% margin, are more likely to want their representative in Congress to vote against rather than for an increase in the federal debt ceiling, with 35% saying they have no opinion.

The July 7-10 poll asked respondents who either favored or opposed raising the debt ceiling to use their own words to explain their position. These responses were placed into categories and the results discussed in a previous Gallup analysis.

On pages 2 and 3 are the exact verbatim responses used by these more than 700 Americans in response to this open-ended question. Page 2 contains the responses of those opposed to raising the debt ceiling and page 3 the responses of those in favor or raising the debt ceiling. Reading through the words average Americans use when asked to discuss their position on the debt ceiling provides a unique and rewarding insight into public opinion on this key issue. (Note: Gallup edited these responses for language.)...
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We absolutely need a balanced budget amendment. The Congress seems to have finally heard us (I'd say me but that would be arrogant). This is a solid chance to put us on the path to some sort of fiscal responsibility.
 
We absolutely need a balanced budget amendment. I hope this debacle results in enough pressure for that to happen.

Has anyone else looked at the history of raising the debt ceiling in the last 20 or 30 years?
 
Damocles said:
We absolutely need a balanced budget amendment. The Congress seems to have finally heard us (I'd say me but that would be arrogant). This is a solid chance to put us on the path to some sort of fiscal responsibility.
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Think that through Damo. I understand yoiu're frustration. Washington utterly lacks the political will to make the tough decisions on spending and revenue required to balance the budget. It is beyond exasperating. The downside of a balanced budget amendment is what happens in time of an bonafide emergency or national crises where debt spending is absolutely warranted? The Great Depression and WWII come to mind. There is no way the US and the Allies could have won WWII had the US federal government hands been tied by a balanced budget amendment. Another example would be a large natural disaster, like Katrina or say a massive earthquake, deficit spending would certainly be appropriate in such circumstances. Same with economic crises. Keynesian economic policy is time tested and proven in times of economic crises and as we've just witnessed recently, prevented a recession from becoming a depression. So be careful what you ask for.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
Think that through Damo. I understand yoiu're frustration. Washington utterly lacks the political will to make the tough decisions on spending and revenue required to balance the budget. It is beyond exasperating. The downside of a balanced budget amendment is what happens in time of an bonafide emergency or national crises where debt spending is absolutely warranted? The Great Depression and WWII come to mind. There is no way the US and the Allies could have won WWII had the US federal government hands been tied by a balanced budget amendment. Another example would be a large natural disaster, like Katrina or say a massive earthquake, deficit spending would certainly be appropriate in such circumstances. Same with economic crises. Keynesian economic policy is time tested and proven in times of economic crises and as we've just witnessed recently, prevented a recession from becoming a depression. So be careful what you ask for.
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A balanced budget amendment could still work, if it allowed deficits for only certain events. I can see going into debt for disastors, but we have been doing it as a matter of normal budgets.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
Think that through Damo. I understand yoiu're frustration. Washington utterly lacks the political will to make the tough decisions on spending and revenue required to balance the budget. It is beyond exasperating. The downside of a balanced budget amendment is what happens in time of an bonafide emergency or national crises where debt spending is absolutely warranted? The Great Depression and WWII come to mind. There is no way the US and the Allies could have won WWII had the US federal government hands been tied by a balanced budget amendment. Another example would be a large natural disaster, like Katrina or say a massive earthquake, deficit spending would certainly be appropriate in such circumstances. Same with economic crises. Keynesian economic policy is time tested and proven in times of economic crises and as we've just witnessed recently, prevented a recession from becoming a depression. So be careful what you ask for.
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You clearly didn't read the amendment, emergencies were taken into account.
 
Good luck with that.

A balanced budget amendment would have kept Bush from borrowing the cash to start two wars and push a Big Pharma pill bill while cutting taxes for the rich.
 
Paul Ryan's budget plan, which turned Medicare into a voucher program, would be unconstitutional until about 2030 or so under the Balanced Budget Amendment. It's lunatic policy.
 
And, by the way, here's a list of things that would have to be cut completely if the debt ceiling is not increased and spending on debt service, military payrolls, Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid are not cut:

You just cut the IRS and all the accountants at Treasury, which means that the actual revenue you have to spend is $0.

The nation's nuclear arsenal is no longer being watched or maintained

The doors of federal prisons have been thrown open, because none of the guards will work without being paid, and the vendors will not deliver food, medical supplies, electricity,etc.

The border control stations are entirely unmanned, so anyone who can buy a plane ticket, or stroll across the Mexican border, is entering the country. All the illegal immigrants currently in
detention are released, since we don't have the money to put them on a plane, and we cannot actually simply leave them in a cell without electricity, sanitation, or food to see what happens.
All of our troops stationed abroad quickly run out of electricity or fuel. Many of them are sitting in a desert with billions worth of equipment, and no way to get themselves or their equipment back to the US.

Our embassies are no longer operating, which will make things difficult for foreign travellers

No federal emergency assistance, or help fighting things like wildfires or floods. Sorry, tornado people! Sorry, wildfire victims! Try to live in the northeast next time!

Housing projects shut down, and Section 8 vouchers are not paid. Families hit the streets.

The money your local school district was expecting at the October 1 commencement of the 2012 fiscal year does not materialize, making it unclear who's going to be teaching your kids without a special property tax assessment.

The market for guaranteed student loans plunges into chaos. Hope your kid wasn't going to college this year!

The mortgage market evaporates. Hope you didn't need to buy or sell a house!

The FDIC and the PBGC suddenly don't have a government backstop for their funds, which has all sorts of interesting implications for your bank account.

The TSA shuts down. Yay! But don't worry about terrorist attacks, you TSA-lovers, because air traffic control shut down too. Hope you don't have a vacation planned in August, much less any work travel.

Unemployment money is no longer going to the states, which means that pretty soon, it won't be going to the unemployed people.
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And those are just the immediate cuts. How do you think that would poll?


http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2011/07/getting-specific-on-spending/242240/
 
David St. Hubbins said:
And, by the way, here's a list of things that would have to be cut completely if the debt ceiling is not increased and spending on debt service, military payrolls, Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid are not cut:



And those are just the immediate cuts. How do you think that would poll?


http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2011/07/getting-specific-on-spending/242240/
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OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!
More Liberal scare tatic talking points, from a Liberal talking point opinion piece.
S-C-A-R-Y
 
Damocles said:
We absolutely need a balanced budget amendment. The Congress seems to have finally heard us (I'd say me but that would be arrogant). This is a solid chance to put us on the path to some sort of fiscal responsibility.
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The reps are suppose to defund Obamacare.

That's what they ran on, and that's why they won so big, and that's not even on the table.

The media may tell us that we're thinking one way, but that's just not the case.

Let Obama choose to fund all these socialist programs and then turn around and tell the old people that there's not enough for them if there's nothing done with the debt.
 
David St. Hubbins said:
And, by the way, here's a list of things that would have to be cut completely if the debt ceiling is not increased and spending on debt service, military payrolls, Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid are not cut:



And those are just the immediate cuts. How do you think that would poll?


http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2011/07/getting-specific-on-spending/242240/
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There's enough for the Interest on the debt, military, S.S. Med. with some left over.

Then cut the rest.

Cut Obamacare first.
 
Americans name the economy and unemployment/jobs as the most important problems facing the nation, as they have all year, despite the dominant focus in Washington on the federal debt ceiling.






The deficit comes in third.


http://www.gallup.com/poll/148589/C...n&utm_content=plaintextlink&utm_term=Politics




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Liberty said:
There's enough for the Interest on the debt, military, S.S. Med. with some left over.

Then cut the rest.

Cut Obamacare first.
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Cut the Bush tax cuts. Get rid of corporate tax loopholes. Tax the rich more heavily, and increase revenues.
 
If we were to default (fortunately the leaders of this country are not as stupid as some people, including members of this board) the dollar would cease to be the trading currency for oil. Since we print dollars as we need them, we have a distinct advantage over the rest of the world. You people are serious fucking idiots, especialy Annie, and Liberty, neither of which has the slightest idea what the fuck they are talking about.
 
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