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PostmodernProphet said:
given federal pension rules would that be enough to solve the problem on the federal level?....
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It's possible. It would take time, but not paying somebody to do that work that you previously paid somebody for will save money, the pension is there regardless. Hiring somebody to fill that vacated spot would definitely cost us more money.
 
Damn Yankee said:
The actual text on the Constitution, in its context, says otherwise. Of course you don't want to argue that. You'd rather just claim that I'm acting like your favorite liberal.
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you do this alot. it's really quite sad. you take a small blurb of text with no context and claim that's what it means. that's not any different than the liberals taking 'promote the general welfare' and watching apple or christie claim that it means the government should be paying for healthcare.
 
Damn Yankee said:
How is that distortion? My concern was always about air pollution. Why do you want people to breathe dirty air?
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No one was forcing anyone to breathe dirty air. It was totally their choice to enter the privately owned establishment.
 
SmarterThanYou said:
you do this alot. it's really quite sad. you take a small blurb of text with no context and claim that's what it means. that's not any different than the liberals taking 'promote the general welfare' and watching apple or christie claim that it means the government should be paying for healthcare.
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Not at all. Here's the section in context: "It shall be the policy of this State to conserve and protect its lands and waters for the benefit of all its citizenry, and to this end it shall be a proper function of the State of North Carolina and its political subdivisions to acquire and preserve park, recreational, and scenic areas, to control and limit the pollution of our air and water..."

How would you interpret that? :)
 
Damn Yankee said:
Not at all. Here's the section in context: "It shall be the policy of this State to conserve and protect its lands and waters for the benefit of all its citizenry, and to this end it shall be a proper function of the State of North Carolina and its political subdivisions to acquire and preserve park, recreational, and scenic areas, to control and limit the pollution of our air and water..."

How would you interpret that? :)
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as it specifically applies to properties that the state can acquire and preserve, like park, recreational, and scenic areas
 
Damn Yankee said:
No it doesn't. The State uses this article to regulate, say, septic tanks on private land. My backyard isn't a public park.
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The difference is that your septic tank can cause serious harm to those not on your land. That does not hold true with smoking in a privately owned restaurant.
 
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