Get Out of Iraq Now? Not So Fast, Experts Say

Darla said:
I think that’s been a Republican ploy for years now, and it’s worked. It’s not about being detached from reality, it’s about “creating our own reality”. And everything is about “opinion” not facts. This allows the media to “present both sides” in the interests of so-called fairness. One side says this, but, “some republicans disagree”. Some say the earth is warming, but, some republicans disagree.

We’re in a new world now. There are no facts. When you turn everything into a debatable “opinion” that’s how you get away with the shit they’ve gotten away with, including, torturing. Some say we torture, Bush disagrees. The media will not step in, having been properly cowed by years of right wing whining about the “liberal media” they now spend their time on their knees, ever eager to “prove” they’re not liberal.

And so on and on it goes. Meanwhile, the world burns.
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I haven't thought about it quite like this, but you're right, and it's a real drag. It is so true with global warming - all it takes are a couple of ExxonMobil funded opinions, and there is "vigorous debate" on the topic. I remember when a National Intelligence Estimate on Iraq came out, and Bush disagreed with its conclusions; he actually did say something like "I have a different opinion," like an NIE is based on nothing but someone's whim of an opinion.

We saw that with Meme yesterday; "Obama is an America-hating Marxist...just my opinion, so you can't really say I'm wrong." No backup needed.

I think Bush is a Satan worshipping porn addict with a foot fetish. Just my opnion, of course.
 
Onceler said:
I haven't thought about it quite like this, but you're right, and it's a real drag. It is so true with global warming - all it takes are a couple of ExxonMobil funded opinions, and there is "vigorous debate" on the topic. I remember when a National Intelligence Estimate on Iraq came out, and Bush disagreed with its conclusions; he actually did say something like "I have a different opinion," like an NIE is based on nothing but someone's whim of an opinion.

We saw that with Meme yesterday; "Obama is an America-hating Marxist...just my opinion, so you can't really say I'm wrong." No backup needed.

I think Bush is a Satan worshipping porn addict with a foot fetish. Just my opnion, of course.
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Yep, exactly like that. It’s infuriating for anyone with an actual working mind.
 
Darla said:
I think that’s been a Republican ploy for years now, and it’s worked. It’s not about being detached from reality, it’s about “creating our own reality”. And everything is about “opinion” not facts. This allows the media to “present both sides” in the interests of so-called fairness. One side says this, but, “some republicans disagree”. Some say the earth is warming, but, some republicans disagree.

We’re in a new world now. There are no facts. When you turn everything into a debatable “opinion” that’s how you get away with the shit they’ve gotten away with, including, torturing. Some say we torture, Bush disagrees. The media will not step in, having been properly cowed by years of right wing whining about the “liberal media” they now spend their time on their knees, ever eager to “prove” they’re not liberal.

And so on and on it goes. Meanwhile, the world burns.
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Isn't that what the "Fairness Doctrine" is all about? We need to show "both sides". Ask Desh, she'll tell you about it.
 
cawacko said:
Isn't that what the "Fairness Doctrine" is all about? We need to show "both sides". Ask Desh, she'll tell you about it.
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Cawacko how would you like it if I come over there and kick your frigging ass? Just because I don't like your name and you are getting on my nerves? How would you like that?
 
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