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And if you treat your employees right and they don't unionize, does that lead to the imbalance we have now between the big 3 and the other auto manufacturers in the US?
Good time to implement universal healthcare?
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And if you treat your employees right and they don't unionize, does that lead to the imbalance we have now between the big 3 and the other auto manufacturers in the US?
FUCK THE POLICE
911 EVERY DAY
Health insurance is unamerican.
you can cut them off if you can put them into a pool of healthcare like the VA hospital or something.
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Current worker vs. current worker... you are correct. The employees are paid essentially the same.
But as Chap said, with Ford and GM you are paying for three retirees for each current worker. That is something Toyota doesn't have to deal with.
While those costs are certainly a part of the cost discrepancy, the bulk of the difference is in that Toyota and Honda think long term means.... plan for the next decade. Ford and GM think long term means... plan for the next three months until we report again.
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I made a similar argument a week or so ago. But Dung pointed out to me that the Union has already agreed to take over the pension and health benes for retirees starting in 2010 (I could be off on the year, but it is fairly soon)
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The Almighty
you could also help pay for it by drilling our own reserves in oil and nat gas and not shipping $700 billion a year to other countires.
That said... I do agree that pot should be legalized and taxed/regulated like alcohol.
Tax Tithes. You'd make a mint.
Well, this feels like progress!
Ah, well, one step forward, two steps back.
What law will change the fact that when a woman joins a union, she immediately has a better chance of having health insurance than a woman who went to a four year college?
What law will change that when a woman enters a union she adds as much to her wages as a woman who attended some college?
I dont think its right that someone man or woman with a GED does better then someone with a 4 year college degree because of a union.
Some workers unionize, some don't. Who's fault is that? The unionized people that prefer to collectively bargain for increased wages and benefits?
And the idea that the UAW is 50% to blame is nonsense. Management runs the business. If the UAW had 50% representation on the board of directors maybe you'd have a point, but they don't.
Well, the cost of college has risen 497% since 1982 and it's still going up. So if you believe that anyone who doesn't go to college shouldn't be entitled to a decent living, then you are going to, through elitism, send this country into the same state as a third world stink hole, because in case you haven't noticed, we are quickly becoming a country whose middle class cannot afford to send its children to college.
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Bingo!