Killing people is ALL good? yeah, other people's lives have little value to rightys.
Head of Hamas government in Gaza eliminated
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IBDaMann
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Blow me, ass-wipe. Do you always react this way whenever you are at risk of being deprived of your Arab genocide?
Have you ever contributed anything truthful or honest on this forum? I don't recall ever reading anything value-added from you.
Nope. You simply cannot read for comprehension.
IBDaMann
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Nordberg, I see you still haven't learned the difference between the political left and right.
IBDaMann
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This is the real racist Team Israel that is dedicated to eradicating Arabs off the map.
Fortunately, one does not need to have visited an Islamic country to know that genocide is bad anywhere, even one in which Israel is the perpetrator.
Would you be the prime candidate here?
IBDaMann
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... then again, if you never have any sort of intelligent response, you don't have many tools with which to work.Earl
IBDaMann
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That's the IDF's motto, the bully's motto. Don't start a genocide that you can't finish.
As we all know, bullies are themselves cowards. The IDF wouldn't attack Iran because the IDF are cowardly, terrorist bullies. Instead, they turned around and bullied an unarmed population that can't fight back, just to feel better.
T. A. Gardner
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Define genocide and then show how Israel is committing it.
gen·o·cide
[ˈjenəˌsīd]
noun
There's the definition.
Israel is neither deliberately or systematically killing or persecuting Palestinians. Israel withdrew their settlements in Gaza and handed control of it to the Palestinians who promptly elected a terrorist organization as their government and who has since waged a continuous low-grade conflict on Israel.
If Israel were truly committing genocide, why haven't they wiped out their internal population of Palestinians and Arabs? Why do they grant both, where they live in Israel, citizenship?
If anything, it is the Palestinians who are committed to genocide against Israel, it's just they're too fucking incompetent to actually be able to carry one out.
What it seems you don't like is that Israel, when it comes to warfare, is akin to a world champion MMA fighter while the Palestinians are akin to a 90 lbs. retard who picked a fight with said MMA fighter. What you don't like is the resulting one-sided ass kicking because it's "unfair."
gen·o·cide
[ˈjenəˌsīd]
noun
- the deliberate and systematic killing or persecution of a large number of people from a particular national or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group
There's the definition.
Israel is neither deliberately or systematically killing or persecuting Palestinians. Israel withdrew their settlements in Gaza and handed control of it to the Palestinians who promptly elected a terrorist organization as their government and who has since waged a continuous low-grade conflict on Israel.
If Israel were truly committing genocide, why haven't they wiped out their internal population of Palestinians and Arabs? Why do they grant both, where they live in Israel, citizenship?
If anything, it is the Palestinians who are committed to genocide against Israel, it's just they're too fucking incompetent to actually be able to carry one out.
What it seems you don't like is that Israel, when it comes to warfare, is akin to a world champion MMA fighter while the Palestinians are akin to a 90 lbs. retard who picked a fight with said MMA fighter. What you don't like is the resulting one-sided ass kicking because it's "unfair."
T. A. Gardner
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The bully is the Palestinians who were stupid enough to pick a fight and then get an ass kicking. The Palestinians either need to up their game or stop picking fights. I personally think they're just too fucking stupid and angry to do either.
So you admit that Hamas is committed to genocide.
Israel has Palestinians in its Knesset that is a very strange way to commit genocide.
T. A. Gardner
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Exactly.
moon
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gfm7175
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I'd say my general takeaway is that if attention is never turned directly towards Iran (and if it continues to only ever be turned towards others, such as Iran's proxies), then the warring will continue and no peaceful resolution will occur.
In terms of my current conjecture based on my Christianity, I wouldn't be surprised if Israel (with the assistance of the USA under Trump's leadership) eventually turns their eye towards Iran (and their nuclear capabilities) within the next couple years. I suspect that it will take a fairly major event of some sort to nudge them to do so. After such an event, an "Abraham Accords" peace agreement will be made. At that point, Israel will "feel secure" (Iran no longer a threat).
Indeed. I do think that Proverbs 17:27-28 contains some useful advice in this regard.
I concur.
I concur again.
Okay. I consider this to be a part of the 95% in which we agree.
I'd say the same to you.
Yup, our disagreement ("the 5%") is definitely with regard to what the core definition of accounting is, because I see accounting as something that is personal at its core, but that has also, over time, been standardized for various reasons (easier comparison between other people, taxation, etc). There's nothing (besides the extra time required) that's stopping a person from keeping his own individual accounting (as he sees fit) in addition to the standardized (GAAP) accounting that the US government currently requires him to keep.
Accounting, at its very core, is a process of logging and cross checking transactions. It's been done for thousands of years, before any "accepted standard" was ever created or mandated, so accounting at its very core shouldn't be defined by any such standard (e.g. GAAP) but rather by the process that is actually happening regardless of any later-established standard (namely, the logging and cross checking of transactions).
Under a barter system, transactions of goods/services can still be logged and cross checked without the existence of any "generally accepted standard" for doing so. Said logging and cross checking of transactions is all that is required for accounting to exist and "be happening". Sure, as we speak with each other here in 2025, one could very well say that doing so is a "primitive" form of accounting, or that it's a form of accounting that is very difficult to compare wealth between other people, but it IS still accounting.
Yes, there are good reasons why standardized principles (such as GAAP) later came to be, but they don't define accounting in and of itself; they've simply "improved" it, if you will.
The transactions can be logged and cross checked, which is accounting. No currency required.
There is no "must put a single value into each variable" requirement in order for accounting to exist. That's not a requirement of accounting itself, but rather a requirement of a later standardization of accounting (e.g. GAAP).
The core of our disagreement seems to be your insistence to define accounting as some later-determined and generally accepted standard while I am insisting that accounting be defined as the underlying logging and cross checking process itself, regardless of any later-determined and generally accepted standard.
It was no fiction watching them drag folks through their streets while they shouted that their "god is greater". Hamas is a terrorist organization that has one goal to sweep every Jew out of Israel "from the river to the sea".
The thing I find most egregious is the fact that the "Palestinians" have repeatedly rejected their own nation because it would continue to let Israel exist.
Watching them hide in hospitals against international law, to shield themselves with civilians... all of these things add up to Hamas being bad guys. This isn't fiction, we got to watch it live on TV.
IBDaMann
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The morons are Team Israel who deny that Iran attacked Israel just so they can insist that unarmed civilian noncombatants somehow attacked Israel with rockets that they never had.
The morons of Team Israel engage in the pivot fallacy "The IDF isn't perpetrating any genocide on the Arabs ... and on top of that, the Arabs so totally deserve the IDF's genocidal smackdown."
Iran funded Al Qassam (Iran's proxy) to attack Israel. Israel then seized the opportunity to bully the Arabs they HATE. Team Israel, being the shitty cowards that they are, dog-piled on and began pushing the narrative that unarmed civilian noncombatants somehow deserve to be ethnically cleansed for the crime of being Arab.
IBDaMann
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No. I admit that Al Qassam, the IDF, Hezbollah, Islamic Jihad and other militant terrorist organizations are committed to genocide.
Gazan administrators, however, are committed to scrounging for funds to administer Gaza, and to avoiding Israeli assassinations, not to perpetrating genocide.
IBDaMann
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The current legal operating definition of "genocide" ratified by both the US and Israel is the following:
Genocide means any of the following acts committed, with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
(a) Killing members of the group;
(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about itsphysical destruction in whole or in part;
(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.
Neither you nor I get to redefine "genocide" away from the legal definition adopted/ratified by the US, by Israel and by virtually every other country.
The IDF is perpetrating genocide.
T. A. Gardner
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You are describing warfare, not genocide. Genocide is systematic, complete, and deliberate. Causing casualties to another nation's people and destruction of its property is part of warfare.
Israel is doing none of that.
Now, the Palestinians would like to commit genocide on Israel and groups like Hamas and Islamic Jihad have openly stated as much. Their problem is they're totally fucking incompetent at warfare.
IBDaMann
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Correct. When the Iranian Revolution occurred in 1979, the western-minded, women-empowering government was replaced by the radical Shii'a theocracy that endures to this day, a theocracy that totally subverts women and that is totally dedicated to the destruction of Israel. Since that day, Iran has been the only attacker of Israel. For all of Team Israel's screaming that Israel is surrounded by Arabs who are dedicated to destroying Israel, none of it is true except for that which Israel has earned by attacking and assassinating its Arab neighbors with impunity. None of the surrounding Arab countries have attacked Israel but have been the victims of Israel's invasions. Every time Israel illegally invades and attacks and assassinates in a surrounding country, Team Israel applauds and cheers. No one questions the legality of Israel's incursions and assassinations, especially in light of none ever being able to fight back. After each such act of war waged by Israel, the US rushes to give Israel more weapons and more aid.
None of what I wrote above is opinion.
Only Iran, through its proxies Al Qassam, Hezbollah and Islamic Jihad, has attacked Israel, per Iran's undying obsession with destroying Israel.
Wait! What I just wrote is not entirely true. At the end of the Gulf War, Saddam Hussein was facing a crushing defeat at the hands of the Americans and he had run out of options. So, in a desperate bid to change the game, he launched two or three SCUD missiles in the general direction of Israel in the hope of rallying the Muslim world to his cause. The SCUD missiles didn't land within 10 miles of any living thing out in the desert, and nobody was inclined to help Saddam anyway. So, there was technically one attack on Israel for which Iran was not responsible.
I completely agree, and I am fairly certain that Trump is going to do this sooner rather than later. Trump thinks a lot like I do. The problem is that prior to Trump assuming office, Trump had to campaign for the Presidency, and during that time, he was not privy to any State Department or Intelligence Community information, so his campaign assumed the standard Team Israel disinformation and you will remember his pre-Presidency threat of raining holy hell down upon Hamas if the hostages are not released by the time he takes office. Well, Hamas can't very well release hostages that they don't have.
Fast forward to Trump assuming office and finally getting briefed on exactly what actually happened. Suddenly he realizes that Iran is the culprit and that Hamas is now just an extinct group of former administrators. Then Trump finds out from his "special negotiator" that hostage negotiations need to take place in Qatar, the command base of Al Qassam, the militant terrorist group who perpetrated the attack on Israel at the behest of Iran. Now we see Trump slamming the Houthis without notice and advising Iran that he's considering anhiliating them all (prompting the Ayatollah to meekly declare that he won't negotiate with Trump while simultaneously shitting in his pants).
Several years ago, I would have agreed with your sentiment. Again, I was raised under the same "understanding." Today, I believe you are operating under a strong misconception. Israel does not need to be made to feel secure; Israel is already the bully against whom others cannot fight. Israel operates, and attacks, with impunity. Israel operates as the slave owner who can do whatever he wants with his slaves and fears only the loss of that power.
Ergo, what is needed is for Israel to be made to feel that they will retain slave ownership. If this is not afforded, Israel will violate cease-fires (as they just did) and will sabotage negotiations (while blaming Arabs for such).
Indeed. You rock.
I'm willing to bet that you recognize that no business owner ever allowed the various workers/employees to individually define their own meanings and methodologies for their own purview/part of the business ... that all businesses mandated that an accounting standard be used across the enterprise.
Yes? Why do you think that is? Accounting, at its core, is a documentation standardization revealing a clear picture for stakeholders.
A documentation standard. I totally agree.
i.e. they can be documented and reviewed. I totally agree. Does this work is Bill does something cryptic on Tuesday, and then Bob does something different on Wednesday? You might answer "sure, they can do whatever they want." In the end, if they aren't following any standard, all that the business can do is what bars do at the end of the day, i.e. they take an inventory and jot it down. No other documentation has any meaning.
There absolutely is such a requirement to use that equation. If you aren't using that equation, you are merely taking inventory, like a bar at the end of the day.
FTFY. Yes, that is my insistence.
I get it. You are equating "accounting" with taking inventory. You are certainly free to do so, however you would be hard-pressed to find others who do likewise. Nonetheless, I won't ever say that you don't get to hold the view that you hold. At least we are clear on our one point of disagreement.
As a courtesy, when discussing this topic in the future, I will make a concerted effort to specify GAAP instead of just "accounting."
IBDaMann
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The United States and Israel defined "genocide," not "warfare." I was not involved.
Genocide means any of the following acts committed, with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
(a) Killing members of the group;
(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about itsphysical destruction in whole or in part;
(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.
You don't have a time machine. You can't go back in time and change it.
... exactly the definition ratified by the US and Israel, and you do not get to rewrite history.
Dismissed. You have not shown the existence of any Palestine.
Israel is actually perpetrating genocide against Gazans out of racial HATRED, in flagrant violation of the Geneva Conventions and the Convention against Genocide.