Iran War Watch

Hawkeye10 said:
That does not make sense to me....we have better options for Yemen......I think they are there to threaten Iran under the theory that they can evade Irans air defenses, which is far from certain.

Remember that the last attack on Iran was called off (and then extensively lied about) because Irans radars were picking up the F-35's....which shocked the Imperial Empire.
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Trump needs a win and thinks opening the Suez will force Iran to negotiate. There's a good possibility Iran will shoot down a B2.
 
goat said:
Trump needs a win and thinks opening the Suez will force Iran to negotiate. There's a good possibility Iran will shoot down a B2.
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We dont know how good Irans system is....it is a mash up of Iranian/Russian/Chinese systems, we know that the Russians who are very good at this are on the ground, and we know that it is good enough that the last attack was called off.

The Imperial Empire has never faced modern first world air defenses.....and also we must keep in mind that Iran has the support of Russian and Chinese satellites.
 
Obviously we have faced the Russian systems with our missiles in Ukraine....I am saying that we have never faced them with planes....we dont know how this will go.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
We dont know how good Irans system is....it is a mash up of Iranian/Russian/Chinese systems, we know that the Russians who are very good at this are on the ground, and we know that it is good enough that the last attack was called off.

The Imperial Empire has never faced modern first world air defenses.....and also we must keep in mind that Iran has the support of Russian and Chinese satellites.
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You're helping to prove why Pepe Escobar may be right about the B2s being there to flatten Yemen. There has to be someone smart enough telling Trump that attacking Iran will crash the global economy, not that it needs any more help. We'll see what the markets do tomorrow. My guess is they close early if things go south.
 
goat said:
You're helping to prove why Pepe Escobar may be right about the B2s being there to flatten Yemen. There has to be someone smart enough telling Trump that attacking Iran will crash the global economy, not that it needs any more help. We'll see what the markets do tomorrow. My guess is they close early if things go south.
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And almost certainly the Russians are telling Trump that if the Empire attacks Iran we can forget about everything we have been talking to the Russians about.

Thing is the Wall Street Mafia/CIA is telling Trump that with the help of the Zionist Bastards an attack done right will collapse the Regime, and they have a plan of who they will instal, who will be compliant with the Zionists.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
And almost certainly the Russians are telling Trump that if the Empire attacks Iran we can forget about everything we have been talking to the Russians about.

Thing is the Wall Street Mafia/CIA is telling Trump that with the help of the Zionist Bastards an attack done right will collapse the Regime, and they have a plan of who they will instal, who will be compliant with the Zionists.
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Yemen has shot down 16 reaper drones costing $33 million each for a total of about half a billion dollars. One B2 cost $2 billion plus the embarrassment it will bring Trump.
 
goat said:
Yemen has shot down 16 reaper drones costing $33 million each for a total of about half a billion dollars. One B2 cost $2 billion plus the embarrassment it will bring Trump.
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Irrelevant....the money trees are not dead yet.

The main problem is the military industrial complex's general inability to produce.....that any B-2's shot down cant be replaced.
 
goat said:
Yemen has shot down 16 reaper drones costing $33 million each for a total of about half a billion dollars. One B2 cost $2 billion plus the embarrassment it will bring Trump.
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Yea... I have some land in Colorado between 5 and 6,000 feet vertical, and a bridge to sell if you're interested...

The Houthi have shit for air defense. Their sole SAM system is the relatively low altitude, short-range, Iranian 358 Saqr missile. It's pretty worthless against a low IR signature drone.

(see pg 20)


Yemen’s Houthis Employ Iranian “358” Loitering Anti-Aircraft Missile - FMSO

The Iranian “358” missile appears to be an increasingly important weapon for Yemen’s Houthi-led military forces. The 358 missile is classified as surface-to-air, but in early January, it was seemingly used as a surface-to-surface missile to target the provincial leader of the pro-secessionist...
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theaviationgeekclub.com

Here’s how Houthis were able to deploy R-27/R-60/R-73/R-77 Air-to-Air Missiles as SAMs against Saudi-led Coalition Aircraft - The Aviation Geek Club

By January 2018, Houthis were greatly weakened and under immense pressure because of the air strikes launched by Saudi-led coalition.
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T. A. Gardner said:
Yea... I have some land in Colorado between 5 and 6,000 feet vertical, and a bridge to sell if you're interested...

The Houthi have shit for air defense. Their sole SAM system is the relatively low altitude, short-range, Iranian 358 Saqr missile. It's pretty worthless against a low IR signature drone.

(see pg 20)


Yemen’s Houthis Employ Iranian “358” Loitering Anti-Aircraft Missile - FMSO

The Iranian “358” missile appears to be an increasingly important weapon for Yemen’s Houthi-led military forces. The 358 missile is classified as surface-to-air, but in early January, it was seemingly used as a surface-to-surface missile to target the provincial leader of the pro-secessionist...
fmso.tradoc.army.mil fmso.tradoc.army.mil

theaviationgeekclub.com

Here’s how Houthis were able to deploy R-27/R-60/R-73/R-77 Air-to-Air Missiles as SAMs against Saudi-led Coalition Aircraft - The Aviation Geek Club

By January 2018, Houthis were greatly weakened and under immense pressure because of the air strikes launched by Saudi-led coalition.
theaviationgeekclub.com theaviationgeekclub.com
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Yemen has shot down 2 or 3 reaper drones and damaged a carrier in the past few weeks. Why do you think the US moved its carrier strike group further to the north?
 
The collapse of oil prices is said to be because Recession/Depression is being priced in and also OPEC plans to pump more.....but it is hard to not also take this as money does not think that there will be an attack on Iran.
 
goat said:
Is there anyone in the Trump administration smart enough to know Iran can/will crash the global economy if the US decides to bomb it?
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I imagine that the Iranians will first make the Strait of Hormuz impassable to any form of shipping- very long term. They will already have the means in place, I do not doubt.
As for Israel I think that they'll hold back until they can make a permanent job of it. Nobody wants to see a Zionist resurrection.
 
goat said:
Yemen has shot down 2 or 3 reaper drones and damaged a carrier in the past few weeks. Why do you think the US moved its carrier strike group further to the north?
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Wrong. No carrier has been damaged. If they hit a carrier, we'd know about it big time. The US moves carriers around as part of normal operations. The position only has to be in range of the target for its aircraft. The Houthi might have shot down a drone, but it's unlikely given what they have for air defenses.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Wrong. No carrier has been damaged. If they hit a carrier, we'd know about it big time. The US moves carriers around as part of normal operations. The position only has to be in range of the target for its aircraft. The Houthi might have shot down a drone, but it's unlikely given what they have for air defenses.
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Well- you have nothing to worry about then. Get your young kin into uniform and send 'em in.


Haw, haw............................................haw.
 
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