Leaked Hezbollah intelligence documents have been discovered regarding the damage from the pager explosions.

So why were Hamas using hospitals as military HQ, shit for brains?
You mean Hezbollah, you criminal maggot. You are ' Hamas' brainwashed.
Hezbollah is integrated into Lebanese society. It has parliamentary seats, education programs, medical programs, benevolent societies as well as a military wing. The pagers were not ' terrorists' pagers ate all, being used by teachers, doctors, kids- the list goes on.
Another war crime by Jews supported by morons such as serenpitydip.
 
You mean Hezbollah, you criminal maggot. You are ' Hamas' brainwashed.
Hezbollah is integrated into Lebanese society. It has parliamentary seats, education programs, medical programs, benevolent societies as well as a military wing. The pagers were not ' terrorists' pagers ate all, being used by teachers, doctors, kids- the list goes on.
Another war crime by Jews supported by morons such as serenpitydip.
By now you are well aware of the standard Team Israel special pleading fallacy, i.e. they will absolutely celebrate the very same horrific mass killings perpetrated by Israel that would be decried and condemned were they perpetrated by anyone else.

We can call it "Israeli privilege", the freedom to kill and maim at will, with impunity, and be celebrated for having done so.

All Arab children and civilian non-combatants who are illegally killed by Israel will either be dishonestly classified as "Hezbollah commanders" or immorally dismissed as "collateral damage." Their killing will be "justified" as "Israel is at war" instead of being condemned as the obvious terrorist activity as which it would be classified were it perpetrated by anyone else.
 
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So why were Hamas using hospitals as military HQ, shit for brains?
Hamas didn't use hospitals as military headquarters. Israel dishonestly claimed the hospitals were somehow being used as military headquarters because Israel had already destroyed them recklessly and illegally, and Israel needed a narrative for the public.

The problem for Israel was that they had to bar all journalists and reporters from examining the hospitals (that they were previously free to examine) until the IDF had properly staged the area to appear as a military facility.

In the cases of destroyed apartment buildings and shopping centers, the IDF simply pointed to common objects in the rubble, e.g. blankets, cans of food, etc., and declared them to have been "Hamas logistics hubs". If the IDF capped a civilian for no reason beyond simply wanting to, the IDF reported having killed a "Hamas leader."
 
Hamas didn't use hospitals as military headquarters. Israel dishonestly claimed the hospitals were somehow being used as military headquarters because Israel had already destroyed them recklessly and illegally, and Israel needed a narrative for the public.

The problem for Israel was that they had to bar all journalists and reporters from examining the hospitals (that they were previously free to examine) until the IDF had properly staged the area to appear as a military facility.

In the cases of destroyed apartment buildings and shopping centers, the IDF simply pointed to common objects in the rubble, e.g. blankets, cans of food, etc., and declared them to have been "Hamas logistics hubs". If the IDF capped a civilian for no reason beyond simply wanting to, the IDF reported having killed a "Hamas leader."

You don't know if any of that is true, cite a credible source or shut the fuck up,!!
 
Israel keeps spreading the targets. They push Iran and other M.E. powers. Eventually, they will retaliate in kind and Netanyahoo will get the war he wants.
He's going to push until he gets it. Otherwise, he ends up in prison. Sounds eerily familiar.
 
At least they don't randomly shower unguided rockets all over their enemy's territory...
That's exactly what the IDF did throughout Gaza. They pumped rockets into civilian population centers with the objective of killing tens of thousands of Arab Semite non-combatants, to include as many Arab Semite children as possible.

All of it is completely illegal activity everywhere.
 
That's exactly what the IDF did throughout Gaza. They pumped rockets into civilian population centers with the objective of killing tens of thousands of Arab Semite non-combatants, to include as many Arab Semite children as possible.

All of it is completely illegal activity everywhere.
Show some sources for that. The IDF doesn't use multiple rocket launcher artillery for the most part. Further the ones they do have, like PULS and ELBIT use rockets that have GPS or Command Television guidance so they're accurate.
 
Show some sources for that. The IDF doesn't use multiple rocket launcher artillery for the most part. Further the ones they do have, like PULS and ELBIT use rockets that have GPS or Command Television guidance so they're accurate.
OK, I'll grant you the improved accuracy That doesn't help the IDF's case nor does it refute anything I wrote.
 
OK, I'll grant you the improved accuracy That doesn't help the IDF's case nor does it refute anything I wrote.
Unless you have some reasonable source(s) that show the IDF deliberately targeting civilians rather than creating collateral damage in a strike on a military target--for example a high rise apartment building where some of the building is being used by Hamas while the rest is civilian occupied--you got nothing.

Blowing the fuck out of a building Hamas is using in part for military operations is a legitimate target. That they chose to not protect their own citizens is their problem, not Israel's.

If Hamas puts a headquarters on the grounds of a civilian hospital and Israel blows the fuck out of it and the process of doing so damages the hospital and causes some civilian casualties, that too is on Hamas for trying to use the hospital as a shield.
 
How can you avoid murdering innocents when you blow up huge swaths of a city?
It isn't "murder," it is collateral damage. War is not policing and armies aren't about bringing the evil doer or law breaker to justice. They are about wiping out the other side, breaking all their stuff, and making them surrender. Armies don't serve warrants and are under no compunction to minimize the violence they do in a war.

The only true war crime is LOSING.
 
Unless you have some reasonable source(s) that show the IDF deliberately targeting civilians
Pumping rockets/missiles into civilian population centers (apartment buildings, schools, shopping centers, etc.) is never legal. Israel signed up for that in the Geneva conventions. Your demand for "proof" from me instead of demanding explanations from Israel is the smoking gun that you operate on the Team Israel special pleading fallacy. It shows that you gleefully celebrate the horrific terrorism and war crimes perpetrated against Arabs while decrying and demonizing the exact same that is perpetrated against Israel.

Once more, it's a special pleading fallacy that has you celebrating genocide. That makes you a shitty person. No proof is needed for that.

rather than creating collateral damage in a strike on a military target-

Israel was required to provide their evidence in advance, not fabricate evidence afterwards. It doesn't matter anyway because none of the civilian targets were military targets to begin with. Israel was systematically destroying Gaza to effect the 2nd Nakba.

We've already been over this. All you want is for the Israelis to eradicate the Arabs off the face of the planet and be declared the undisputed winner. Israel is slaughtering innocent civilians by the thousands, including women and children, with impunity, civilian noncombatants who never attacked Israel, and shits like you cheer it on while simultaneously denying that it is happening.


-for example a high rise apartment building where some of the building is being used by Hamas
Even if this were the case, the IDF was required to clear the building, just as a SWAT team would do, as they are fully trained to do. However, there were never any military facilities in those civilian population centers, and the IDF knew this. They were simply slaughtering Arabs and effecting the 2nd Nakba.

Prove that Israel had prior threshhold-meeting evidence of military facilities that they were targeting within those civilian population centers. The phrase "everybody knows that Hamas hides behind human shields" is not sufficient and doesn't work. Show your proof. Otherwise, Israel is in egregious violation of many hundreds of counts against the 4th Geneva Convention and the Convention against genocide.

Blowing the fuck out of a building Hamas is using in part for military operations is a legitimate target.
Incorrect. Every Israeli involved in such an act could legitimately be hanged.

That they chose to not protect their own citizens is their problem, not Israel's.
You need to read the Geneva Conventions to which Israel is a full signatory. The moment the IDF invaded Gaza, they incurred the full legal and moral responsibility to protect the civilians of Gaza equally to the level of protection they are presumably providing to other Israeli citizens, to include ensuring hospital and medical care, access to food and water, security in their homes, etc.

Yes, the IDF incurred full responsibility to protect all the people of Gaza because they were the controlling, invading force. Read the Conventions. Countless IDF soldiers could justifiably be hanged were tribunals held today.

If Hamas puts a headquarters on the grounds of a civilian hospital
Can you use some organization other than Hamas? Hamas is just a political party with no weapons and no money. They can't attack anyone. You sound totally absurd when you attribute to Hamas all the properties of, say, Al Qassam or of Hezbollah. You sound like a raving lunatic who doesn't care about details, but who just wants to see Arab Semites become extinct.
 
It isn't "murder," it is collateral damage.
Nope, Althea is correct. It's murder under the Geneva Conventions.

War is not policing
It sure is when an invading force is the controlling force. Israel is a signatory to this in the Geneva Conventions.

and armies aren't about bringing the evil doer or law breaker to justice.
... or even bring anyone to (in)justice ... which is why the IDF was never allowed to simply hand out death penalties to Arabs upon invading Gaza.

They are about wiping out the other side,
Nope. You, however, beleive that Israel is nonetheless free to wipe Arab Semites off the face of the planet with impunity because of your Team Israel special pleading fallacy.

breaking all their stuff, and making them surrender.
Yes, they are empowered to force their opponents to surrender, but they are not allowed to break any civilian noncombatant's stuff.

Armies don't serve warrants and are under no compunction to minimize the violence they do in a war.
They are under the full weight of international law to minimize the violence they do in war.

The only true war crime is LOSING.
You are chanting. Special pleading fallacy.
 
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