Lets debate... I hear you are free on Wednesdays!

Socialism is a form of economy, not a type of government. It comes in three major forms: fascism, communism, and slavery. All forms of socialism are based on theft.

That said, governments LIKE socialism because it gives them more power.

Fascism is government manipulation of markets. Examples are the EPA, the CPSC, the FCC, etc. These agencies are based on dictating to you what car you can buy, what light bulb you can buy, what drink you can buy, what form of energy you can buy, what kind of stove you can buy, where you are allowed to drill for oil, etc.

Communism is government ownership of markets. Examples are the Federal Reserve and various State transit authorities. These agencies are based on total ownership of the money supply, and total ownership of transit systems (no private transit systems allowed).

Slavery is ownership of labor. This can only really happen with government sanction.

The opposite of socialism is capitalism, which is the voluntary production of products and services for voluntary sale at the agreed upon price.

Since all forms of socialism are based on theft, it cannot exist without capitalism (the only way to create wealth), to steal from.

The Germans became stalled in WW2 because they ran out of places to steal from (the were funding their war machine via theft of conquered territories). The communism in the USSR collapsed because it ran out places to steal from.

Socialism is not sustainable for this reason.

Capitalism, however, IS. Capitalism requires no government at all to function. Governments are formed to protect capitalism from theft, but often become the thief in the end.

Both socialism and capitalism exist in every nation. Socialism prevails in nations that tend to be oligarchies or dictatorships (monarchy), since most people don't like their wealth stolen from them.

In this regard, you reference to Joe Biden is appropriate. Joe Biden, although a puppet, is taking orders from Obama (effectively running a '3rd term'). The Democrats don't want a republic (government by law, or a constitution). They don't want a democracy either (government by popular vote). They want an oligarchy or dictatorship which they call 'democracy' (only THEY, the Elite, get to vote!). Yes...they want socialism, and are trying to expand it like any tyrant.
I agree with much of what you said.
But Communism is the dissolution of the State, not socialist dictatorship as Leftist like to claim.

Socialism is gov't ownership of the means of production which includes laborers. But the Leftists always avoid defining Socialism because sometimes they call it State Welfare, ... depending on the argument.
 
Now we got socialism is the same as monarchy, so what does that make the serfs and clergy?

Have to wonder if the cultist actually have even the remotest understanding of the abstract concepts they throw around as bumper sticker cliches
North Korea's SOCIALISM even includes hereditary monarchy. :dunno:

Monarchist gov'ts own the means of production and the laborers.

What is your definition of Socialism? ... a Welfare State?
 
The timing and the rules for these "debates" are interesting, aren't they? Why is Joe afraid to actually debate on his own...? (Remember when Hillary got all the questions ahead of time?)
I guess because he couldn't even do the 15 second challenge video without a writer and 5 edits I'd love to know how long that took and what they had to cut...lol
 
it came off as trashy. he is a trash can human

laughing at how he is weaponing the doj. he is going to lose so bigly.
That is fucking stupid. Biden has nothing to do with the NY state. Only dumb fucking trump supporters believe that bullshit.
 
Yep, Joe Stalinist might as well have quoted Marie Antoinette's "Let them eat cake". Biden has weaponized our justice system against his political opponent. The whole world is laughing at us.

Next, it will be Queen Kamala if he wins. :palm:

Democrats like a 3rd world dictatorship. Socialism is just the modern word for monarchy.
I will take Harris over a fucking criminal guilty of rape, fraud and facing countless felony charges and a half a billion dollars in judgements.
 
Trump is mentally losing it and will find a way to get out of the debates.
The rules should include a drug test before the debate and a physical exam by a neutral doctor. Trump's only positive path is escaping the debates and finding a way to blame Biden. A debate will show Biden is on top of the presidency doing his job.It will expose Trump's severe mental problems.
Trump said it is like Biden's golf challenge. Trump said he is a better golfer. Everybody who plays with Trump says he is the worst cheater they have ever seen. He is the same at debates. He ignores the rules and goes back to teen-age Trump bully actions.
Biden is right, the last debates were a shit show. They need to be held by a major network (ABC,NBC or CBS), we don't need any crowds or audience screaming (only the juvenile trumpers do it) and when it isn't your turn to speak your mic is OFF. The juvenile shithead can't keep his fucking mouth shut when he is supposed to.
 
I will take Harris over a fucking criminal guilty of rape, fraud and facing countless felony charges and a half a billion dollars in judgements.
For 77 years, Trump has never been convicted of a crime.

Don't doubt me. :palm:
 
Joe Biden is NOT weaponizing the DoJ, but Trump did.

To speak of Joe Biden as trash while supporting Trump is almost too comical to take seriously.

Joe got off a great zinger in his remark.
The right likes to claim Biden is weaponizing the DoJ yet don't have a stitch of evidence of anything of the sort yet Trump flat out says that is what he is going to do and they cheer him on.
 
And this is with the speech Given to him ahead of time...and a teleprompter... Notice at the end he has to be led off stage...
 
For 77 years, Trump has never been convicted of a crime.

Don't doubt me. :palm:
He lost countless cases where he was sued by contractors he refused to pay and lost but I suppose you are proud of that. He was guilty of rape yet it was a civil case so I suppose you are proud of that too. Guilty of fraud and fined a half a billion and I suppose you are proud of that too. He will soon be a convicted felon so I suppose that will be ok too because you fucking brainwashed shitheads will simply claim he was innocent.

From the 1970s until he was elected president in 2016, Donald Trump and his businesses were involved in over 4,000 legal cases in United States federal and state courts, including battles with casino patrons, million-dollar real estate lawsuits, personal defamation lawsuits, and over 100 business tax disputes.

I suppose he was innocent in all of them too?
 
And this is with the speech Given to him ahead of time...and a teleprompter... Notice at the end he has to be led off stage...
Biden knows the difference between right and wrong, Trump does not. That alone is reason enough to not vote for the fucking criminal.
 
The timing and the rules for these "debates" are interesting, aren't they? Why is Joe afraid to actually debate on his own...? (Remember when Hillary got all the questions ahead of time?)
I guess because he couldn't even do the 15 second challenge video without a writer and 5 edits I'd love to know how long that took and what they had to cut...lol
Donna Brazille admitted to giving one question to Hillary. What the fuck has that to do with this debate? Hell, give them both ALL the fucking questions ahead of time so you Trumpers don't have any excuses when Biden makles an ass out of him.
 
Communism

"Withering away of the state is a Marxist concept coined by Friedrich Engels referring to the idea that, with the realization of socialism, the state will eventually become obsolete and cease to exist as society will be able to govern itself without the state and its coercive enforcement of the law."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Withering_away_of_the_state
Trump would like to dissolve the constitution and make our govt obsolete and he fucking says so and you support him? What the fuck is wrong with you assholes?
 
Trump would like to dissolve the constitution and make our govt obsolete and he fucking says so and you support him? What the fuck is wrong with you assholes?
Trump was president for 4 years, and he did none of that. :palm:
 
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Donna Brazille admitted to giving one question to Hillary. What the fuck has that to do with this debate? Hell, give them both ALL the fucking questions ahead of time so you Trumpers don't have any excuses when Biden makles an ass out of him.
No one should have the questions ahead of time...and the rules should be mutually agreed upon...The Biden camp is panicking...
 
Biden knows the difference between right and wrong, Trump does not. That alone is reason enough to not vote for the fucking criminal.
Poor Joe doesn't know the difference between the truth and a lie... And he certainly doesn't know the difference between right and wrong... Or he would step aside and do the right thing for the American people...
 
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The timing and the rules for these "debates" are interesting, aren't they? Why is Joe afraid to actually debate on his own...? (Remember when Hillary got all the questions ahead of time?)
I guess because he couldn't even do the 15 second challenge video without a writer and 5 edits I'd love to know how long that took and what they had to cut...lol
I'm sure you would. I bet you'd love to see him do some tongue twisters, too. Remember when you had some tongue-twister suggestions for the guy who's managed a 50+-year public career despite his speech impairment? Such caring and compassion from the pretend "special ed teacher." :laugh:
 
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