Most Unethical,Unprincipled,Dishonorable:Who's the Most Damaging American Since 1776

[Mott the Hoople]

These poll results are obviously biased towards the beneficiaries of white privilege.

However “evil” FDR’s new deal was, Wilson’s income tax, or Nixon’s wiretapping was, they aren’t even in the same universe as slavery and racial oppression. Beneficiaries of white privilege clearly view polls like this through the prism a lily white Americana.

Slavery was the defining moral issue of this country. Nothing is even in the same ballpark. It tore this country apart, and resulted in a cataclysmic war. The enslavement, torture, and death of millions of people over 400 years is a travesty without any parallel. The residue and impact of slavery, institutionalized racism, and Jim Crow continue to this day. White message board posters hold Thomas Jefferson and George Washington in the highest esteem, but I can guarantee you that is not a universally held sentiment, especially for many people with pigment in their skin.

You can’t lay slavery at the foot of any one person, but certainly the evil of Jefferson Davis, the plantation bosses, and the other enablers of slavery and oppression are in a league by themselves. A league the Jimmy Carter, Richard Nixon, and FDR aren’t even close to matching.








p.s, I voted for Reagan, just because my lefty DNA forces me too on principle.

I agree, That's why I have Jeff Davis at #1 and R. Lee at #4. I did not vote for Jim Crow and that is not a real person. The problem for me is how the poll is stated. Both Davis and Lee were, honorable, ethical and principled men (at least by the standards of their time). They were also hugely wrong and did great damage to their country.

 

[cawacko]

I think you're to broad on this listing. as to who was the most unprincipled, unethical, dishonorable, who did the most damage to American is just to broad a description and none of the candidates listed really meet all those. So I voted on one criteria. Who did the most damage to this nation. That's an easy one. By any objective measure Jefferson Davis, by leading the confederacy did more damage, materially, philosophically and politically then all the others combined. It aint even a contest there. Oh I can see where the morons on the far right wingnut or libertarina "Let them starve to fucking death because it's not governments job" crowd would vote for FDR. If those persons would identify themselves it would come as no surpirse that it's they would be the ussual morons. By any objective measure FDR was one of the three truely Great US Presidents.

However, the preson I think has done the greatest damage to this nation is not even on your list. I would vote for Charles Coughlin in a heart beat. The American first cousin of Joseph Goebbels, avowed fascist and nazi and the philosophical father or Rush Limbaugh, Michael Savage, Shawn Hannity and the other hate mongers on radio. They've done huge damage to this nation with their bitter and acrimonous and hatefull partisanship that they use to artificially create division between the brother/sister hood of this nation.

there have been divisions in this country since day one. Anyone who reads history can tell most of the stuff Limbuagh says is child's play compare to the acqusations and comments tossed around during the early part of our history.

 

[Mott the Hoople]

Just curious... but was Benedict Arnold ever really an American? Or simply a citizen of the colonies that was loyal to his homeland?

Good question. Techinically Benedict Arnold was never a US Citizen.

 

[SouthernBelle82]

despite alot of peoples desire to place a chicago politician on the list, he has only had one year as president. I'd like to give him some more rope to hang himself with, so maybe next year.

Pathetic.

 

[SouthernBelle82]

I wish I could choose again. I voted for FDR, but upon reflection I think he genuinely believed he was doing good, so he wasn't evil, just wrong. I'd like to see George Soros added. HE gets my new vote.

Oh yes he was so wrong he not only saved us from the Great Depression but also gave us Social Security and other national programs. George Soros is a private citizen. Get over it. I know you're jealous and all but damn I thought you guys liked capitalism.

 

[SouthernBelle82]

Gotta be Nixon, war on drugs, liberals, he created the neonazi's in America.

Nixon created NeoNazi's? That's a new one. I'm not saying you're wrong on that point but never heard of that before. I know he was antisemitic so it wouldn't surprise me.

 

[SouthernBelle82]

J. Edgar Hoover did more to promote the gov't interference in private lives, and the spying on american citizens than anyone else. The economy will ebb and flow, but the intrusions Hoover instigated have had (and will have) lasting influence.

I think he and Joe McCarthy are tied there. I don't like either of them either.

 

[SouthernBelle82]

Just curious... but was Benedict Arnold ever really an American? Or simply a citizen of the colonies that was loyal to his homeland?

Oh that's a good question.

 

[SouthernBelle82]

there have been divisions in this country since day one. Anyone who reads history can tell most of the stuff Limbuagh says is child's play compare to the acqusations and comments tossed around during the early part of our history.

Shit the early presidential campaigns were awful with that crap. When I took US History 1 & 2 a few terms ago we studied this and some of it was dreadful!

 

[cawacko]

Oh yes he was so wrong he not only saved us from the Great Depression but also gave us Social Security and other national programs. George Soros is a private citizen. Get over it. I know you're jealous and all but damn I thought you guys liked capitalism.

Since you calling me out on my reading ability it seems you may want to check your own. The poll says what American, not what public official, and private citizens are American. Now one can argue Soros doesn't count not being born here but being a private citizen has nothing to do with the poll question.

 

[Damocles]

there have been divisions in this country since day one. Anyone who reads history can tell most of the stuff Limbuagh says is child's play compare to the acqusations and comments tossed around during the early part of our history.

If you read the provisions of the "intolerable act" you will be amazed at how little it took for the forefathers to begin a revolution.

 

[Mott the Hoople]

Since you calling me out on my reading ability it seems you may want to check your own. The poll says what American, not what public official, and private citizens are American. Now one can argue Soros doesn't count not being born here but being a private citizen has nothing to do with the poll question.

I'm surprised some wing nut hasn't claimed it's Captain Kangaroo for indoctrinating all those little children with atheist liberal socialist beliefs.

 

[Minister of Truth]

Woodie Wilson cause more death, destruction and fiscal calamity than the rest of humanity combined.

I voted for Jackson, but for me it always comes down to him and Wilson. I fucking loathe both of them.

 

[PostmodernProphet]

I'm surprised some wing nut hasn't claimed it's Captain Kangaroo for indoctrinating all those little children with atheist liberal socialist beliefs.

it was Bunny Rabbit who was the liberal....."all your ping bong balls are belong to us!".......

 

[PostmodernProphet]

I nominate Timothy McVeigh.....for giving us American-grown terrorism.......

 

[Mott the Hoople]

it was Bunny Rabbit who was the liberal....."all your ping bong balls are belong to us!".......

That was Mr. Moose silly. Bunny Rabbit would bogart all the carrots.

 

[Mott the Hoople]

I nominate Timothy McVeigh.....for giving us American-grown terrorism.......

I nominate the Bee-Gees for giving us Disco!

 

[/MSG/]

Captain Planet for turning a whole generation into hippies. Or the Transformers for promoting communism.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

Pathetic.

gee, I thought I was being generous to Obama.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

I nominate Timothy McVeigh.....for giving us American-grown terrorism.......

mcveigh is a direct product of the terrorism inflicted upon americans by janet reno and bill clinton. If it weren't for those two, we'd never know who the hell mcveigh was.