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AssHatZombie said:
theMajority for president! This is a real populist candidate!
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I don't want to be in any office--I just want to be able to vote for people who have a equal shot of winning, that put the majority of the peoples interest first. I am tired of hearing people say "I picked the worst of two evils--I wish we had better candidates that cared more about us".

I wonder---for you great American history buffs out there----What economic segment of the population devised the way we vote and run now?
 
theMAJORITY said:
Good points---but lets get to the root.

The elite is a small segment of the population (what is it--like the top 5% of the population?). Of course, they have the money and the power, but it really does not matter what small segment gets continiously elected---no small segment can possibly represent the whole population, and do what is in the best interest of the majority of the population. Any segment will always take care of themself first--that is why we have to be able to elect people from the whole population. The method of running and voting is greatly flawed, and it is not possible to elect people from the whole population.

Yes people are manipluated all over the world, not just here. But who is it you think will manipulate you first. The guy who got rich doing it, or your neighbor who is a sharp guy, but does not have the money to run for office, with a chance of winning? I know your gut tells you that you trust your neighbor, who faces the same challenges you do--more than some guy who does not even know that you don't grow that vegtable in that state (O-Bamma when he mentioned the rising cost of a piece of food I have never heard of to a crowd of farmers earlier this year while campaigning---yea--the crowd was silent)

When we change the way we vote and run for office, so the whole population is considered as viable candidates, and have a equal shot of winning---we will once again become the greatist country this world has ever seen (surpassing our last 150 or so years). We did it once and it lasted only about fifty years (the door was open for the corruption---we can shut that door)---we can do it again.
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I don't totally disagree with you, but leadership only comes from a select few in any system of governance. We don't know how to recognize leadership in anyone who does not possess the capacity to be heard or recognized. Nor do we know how to deal with our own illness of racism, sexism, homophobia, and a variety of "isms" that inhibit America from electing who and what may be in our best interest.

As long as there is glorification of money over all else, then the rich will always dominate the stage. God is a very distant 2nd to money in America, and spirituality is almost non-exsistent.

There is a socio-ethical responsibility to governance and value, worth, and the correct course cannot always be judged by how much is in your pocket.
 
theMAJORITY said:
I don't want to be in any office--I just want to be able to vote for people who have a equal shot of winning, that put the majority of the peoples interest first. I am tired of hearing people say "I picked the worst of two evils--I wish we had better candidates that cared more about us".

I wonder---for you great American history buffs out there----What economic segment of the population devised the way we vote and run now?
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They way we vote held this country together for hundreds of years, even though it has only recently become semi-quasi-open to all citizens.

The problem isn't just the way we vote, it is the American people themselves.
 
this is the story of a bunch of whiney blame some one else for may failures thread.
Who should we elect, losers like you guys.
 
blackascoal said:
They way we vote held this country together for hundreds of years, even though it has only recently become semi-quasi-open to all citizens.

The problem isn't just the way we vote, it is the American people themselves.
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Bullloney. I refuse to call all Americans below the elite class stupid people, and not leaders. All a person needs is passion in the right direction for the majority of the people. That passion is freedom. We all share that passion---even if 85% of the American public really don't know what it is. I don't care how long the corrupt system has been in place, and I am pretty sure it was divised to be rigged. And we all know our freedoms have been reduced, and we are controlled more every decade. Talk to your dad.
 
Uh no...!

theMAJORITY said:
But, you made your money as a state paid employee against the war on drugs (which is not winnable--or ever will be)--and never caught one politican as an importer. (yes people---it happens--probably every year)


Back to the topic.

Still---nobody has put up a case agains my statement. Still batting 100% power.

WE ARE FORCED TO ELECT ONLY THE ELITE---WHO DON'T CARE ABOUT PEOPLE AS MUCH AS THEY CARE ABOUT THEMSELFS!!


Lets make this simple. True, or False---and why a false answer if that is your answer.---We all know why and how it is true.
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Was not State paid...I was a federal investigator...who also worked child porn as well as import /export of High Tech and munitions...restricted items to countries on the no sale list...money laundering,anti-terrorism etc...and yes a few politicians were caught up in the process...anymore silly comments?


As for the true or false question...False! No one forces you to vote or not vote for anyone...if you don't like the candidates...then either do not vote or protest a vote via Third Party!
 
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theMAJORITY said:
Bullloney. I refuse to call all Americans below the elite class stupid people, and not leaders. All a person needs is passion in the right direction for the majority of the people. That passion is freedom. We all share that passion---even if 85% of the American public really don't know what it is. I don't care how long the corrupt system has been in place, and I am pretty sure it was divised to be rigged. And we all know our freedoms have been reduced, and we are controlled more every decade. Talk to your dad.
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What was true for my father remains true to this day. Americans are an apathetic people who'd rather blame government than get off their lazy asses and get involved.

The sixties remain perhaps the most serious time of involvement in government by Americans in our history.

You skipped past my comment that even though faith-based paperless electronic voting has been proven to be a fraud for at least 4 years, there still isn't protection against it.

Who are you going to blame .. the rich, liberals, the poor?

What did you do to protect your right to vote when fraud was proven?

I know some rich people, a lot of liberal people, and even some poor people who got involved.

Where were you?
 
Battleborne said:
Was not State paid...I was a federal investigator...who also worked child porn as well as import /export of High Tech and munitions...restricted items to countries on the no sale list...money laundering,anti-terrorism etc...and yes a few politicians were caught up in the process...anymore silly comments?


As for the true or false question...False! No one forces you to vote or not vote for anyone...if you don't like the candidates...then either do not vote or protest a vote via Third Party!
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Same difference. The bottom line is that your individual well being depends on the power of the state which uses it's power to create money to dictate that your job exist, as if to will a fascist statist apparatus into being, regardless of the actual value it provides back to the people it saddles with the newly created debt, made real through the human suffering required to pay it back to those with dubious right to create it in the first place. It's preposterous, really.
 
Whatever...............!

AssHatZombie said:
Same difference. The bottom line is that your individual well being depends on the power of the state which uses it's power to create money to dictate that your job exist, as if to will a fascist statist apparatus into being, regardless of the actual value it provides back to the people it saddles with the newly created debt, made real through the human suffering required to pay it back to those with dubious right to create it in the first place. It's preposterous, really.
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Next time you need help...don't call a cop or fireman...call your nearest non-profit group...they can protest your demise...:rolleyes:
 
Battleborne said:
Next time you need help...don't call a cop or fireman...call your nearest non-profit group...they can protest your demise...:rolleyes:
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Ya gotta admitt--the hatter has a good point. But your service as a child porn detective is definatly a service that is needed, and I am happy to support that service. Child molestation is among the most hiddious, and among the highest responsoble for human destruction of mind and self being. Some handle it ok--but some would rather be dead when they grow up. Most of them become overly sensitive liberials--who impose their overly sensitive hang ups on everybody else.

NOW---THAT WAS STINKING GOOD MAN--AND YOU ALL KNOW IT---LOL
 
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