Poll: Who carries a pistol in their car?

Do you carry a pistol in your car on a daily basis?

  • Yes

    Votes: 2 28.6%

  • No

    Votes: 5 71.4%
  • Total voters
    7
Walt said:
I do not think so. Or most Democrats have not been trying to ban guns at least. We need some reasonable gun regulations, especially about stolen guns.
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Over 30 years and the results are more guns and looser laws. You're smart enough to know Einstein's definition of insanity. Try thinking outside the box for a change when it comes to gun violence in America.

FWIW, if Trump really does become the fascist dictator your party claims he'll become, you'll be wishing there were more guns in the nation.
 
Walt said:
I do not think so. Or most Democrats have not been trying to ban guns at least. We need some reasonable gun regulations, especially about stolen guns.
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I have the serial numbers of every gun I own locked in a safe. If one (or more) were stolen, I could have all the information when I reported it was stolen.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Over 30 years and the results are more guns and looser laws. You're smart enough to know Einstein's definition of insanity. Try thinking outside the box for a change when it comes to gun violence in America.

FWIW, if Trump really does become the fascist dictator your party claims he'll become, you'll be wishing there were more guns in the nation.
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Canada has both gun control, and more hunters per capita than the USA. Gun control is not the same thing as banning guns.
 
Walt said:
Canada has both gun control, and more hunters per capita than the USA. Gun control is not the same thing as banning guns.
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Sure, Walt. Keep trying for another 30 years and see what changes. Obviously, you didn't pay attention to a word I wrote about culture and thinking outside the box. No worries.
 
RB 60 said:
I have the serial numbers of every gun I own locked in a safe. If one (or more) were stolen, I could have all the information when I reported it was stolen.
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I do not believe most of these guns are really being stolen. If they were stolen, people would report them stolen to try to get them back. And they would change their storage to prevent guns from being stolen again.

When a person buys 20 guns, has them all "stolen", and then a week later buys 20 more guns... buying a thousand guns a year... All "stolen", but never reported... After a while it insults our intelligence to claim they are being stolen.

Think about this, if the AAA was trying to help people sell stolen cars, and lobbied for passing a law making it illegal for the government to keep a database of stolen cars on a computer, we would be shocked. Why is it OK for the NRA to do it?
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Sure, Walt. Keep trying for another 30 years and see what changes. Obviously, you didn't pay attention to a word I wrote about culture and thinking outside the box. No worries.
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I think we both agree something is going wrong with American culture as far as guns are concerned. I think it is what is different about American gun culture, while you seem to think the ideas that are working in the rest of the world are what is wrong with American culture.
 
Walt said:
I think we both agree something is going wrong with American culture as far as guns are concerned. I think it is what is different about American gun culture, while you seem to think the ideas that are working in the rest of the world are what is wrong with American culture.
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Wrong is a moral choice, Walt. Do you believe morality is relative or that there's a Universal God dictating morality?

There's a good discussion about morality here: https://www.justplainpolitics.com/threads/what-is-hell.230933/page-14#post-6428792

@Cypress seems to believe in a "universal"* morality whereas I'm a moral relativist. You'll have to weed through the Usual Suspects unless you have them on ignore. LOL

*he defines it as applicable to the Human Universe on Earth, not the Vogons or other space aliens and, therefore, not related to the supernatural. :)
 
Walt said:
I do not believe most of these guns are really being stolen. If they were stolen, people would report them stolen to try to get them back. And they would change their storage to prevent guns from being stolen again.

When a person buys 20 guns, has them all "stolen", and then a week later buys 20 more guns... buying a thousand guns a year... All "stolen", but never reported... After a while it insults our intelligence to claim they are being stolen.

Think about this, if the AAA was trying to help people sell stolen cars, and lobbied for passing a law making it illegal for the government to keep a database of stolen cars on a computer, we would be shocked. Why is it OK for the NRA to do it?
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Walt! You are crazy.....

When someone buys 20 gins, it's a known collector, or they're investigated down to a fucking parking ticket.
I've bought and sold a few guns in the past. I am not concerned.

I don't think you see the picture right before your eyes.
The NRA is solidly against illegal firearm sales. To or from. They are the largest organization who trains civilian and law enforcement the safe and proper use of a firearm. I was a NRA certified firearms instructor for over 20 years. I am a life member.
 
Walt said:
The scary thing is there is no investigation for buying many guns.
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That depends. Straw purchases are illegal. So is selling a gun to a person known to be illegal to own one such as a criminal, drug user or mentally ill person. The problem, as usual, isn't passing new laws but to enforce the old ones.

The Democrats can kill a forest of trees passing laws but if those laws aren't enforced, they are useless. Guess why laws aren't enforced? No money.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Wrong is a moral choice, Walt. Do you believe morality is relative or that there's a Universal God dictating morality?
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It is important that cars drive on one side of the street or the other. But it is not that important which side of the street it is. The UK is not evil for driving on the left side of the street.

Beyond that, good and bad policy is not always about morality. It is often about what works and what does not.

It has been a long time since I read Max Weber's Politics as a Vocation, but he made a distinction between the "ethics of responsibility" and the "ethics of conviction." What you are talking about is the ethics of conviction, which is important. But do not downplay the ethics of responsibility, keeping the show on the road so to speak. It is important also.
 
Walt said:
It is important that cars drive on one side of the street or the other. But it is not that important which side of the street it is. The UK is not evil for driving on the left side of the street.

Beyond that, good and bad policy is not always about morality. It is often about what works and what does not.

It has been a long time since I read Max Weber's Politics as a Vocation, but he made a distinction between the "ethics of responsibility" and the "ethics of conviction." What you are talking about is the ethics of conviction, which is important. But do not downplay the ethics of responsibility, keeping the show on the road so to speak. It is important also.
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Duh. It's important that people don't point guns at each other without good reason. It's called "brandishing" and is illegal.

Brandished Law and Legal Definition | USLegal, Inc.

Federal law defines brandished as, “with reference to a dangerous weapon (including a firearm) means that all or part of the weapon was displayed, or the presence of the weapon was otherwise made k
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You said "moral", which is why I mentioned it, not policy.

Ethics is also relative. Example; murder is often considered morally wrong and usually illegal. Is euthanasia morally wrong even if legal? Even if the person is in severe pain and wants it but can't commit suicide themselves? What if it's illegal but same situation?
 
Walt said:
It is important that cars drive on one side of the street or the other. But it is not that important which side of the street it is. The UK is not evil for driving on the left side of the street.

Beyond that, good and bad policy is not always about morality. It is often about what works and what does not.

It has been a long time since I read Max Weber's Politics as a Vocation, but he made a distinction between the "ethics of responsibility" and the "ethics of conviction." What you are talking about is the ethics of conviction, which is important. But do not downplay the ethics of responsibility, keeping the show on the road so to speak. It is important also.
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They are confusing. It is difficult to drive on the left side or the road when every road you've seen was driven on the right.

Morality should be the basis of good policy. What is moral is important. Without it, we are savages.

Responsibility comes with conviction as long as conviction stays moral.
 
LurchAddams said:
People are killed in their own houses all over the world.
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And that’s why you excuse the monsters that murdered three innocent friends and family member. No big deal, shit happens. How many people close to you have been murdered?

Live in fear if you want.
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Since I left that third world cesspool of a city, I don’t.
Anyone who feels the need to carry a weapon because of the area they live in obviously does. Apparently the OP thinks so.

I prefer to enjoy life.
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I do. Alaska in summer, Hawaii in winter. Life is good.
 
LurchAddams said:
People are killed in their own houses all over the world.
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And that’s why you excuse the monsters that murdered three innocent friends and family member. No big deal, shit happens. Why many people close to you have been murdered?

Live in fear if you want.
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Since I left that third world cesspool of a city, I don’t.
Anyone who feels the need to carry a weapon because of the area they live in obviously does. Apparently the OP thinks so.

I prefer to enjoy life.
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I do. Alaska in summer, Hawaii in winter. Life is good.
 
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